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When the dust settles can somebody please write the definitive study on why - unlike other sports - we are consistent underachievers at the national level in football.
Enough of penalties being all about bottle etc. this has gone on long enough to be dismissed yet again.
Re the cricket, Stoner, as I'm sure you know...
[url= http://www.ecb.co.uk/ecb/about-ecb ]The England and Wales Cricket Board was established on January 1, 1997 as the single national governing body for all cricket in England and Wales.
It has its headquarters at Lord’s Cricket Ground in London NW8.[/url]
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Got to be the players rather than the manager, surely...?
Iceland foods have just tweeted;
*pulls shutters down*
😆
I think she's well over £100 up Bongo 🙂
Euro 2016 begins! ... and ends.
Magnificent. Now take your beer-bellied, thug rabble and piss off out of France.
I think she's well over £100 up Bongo
Noice! I got £80 for same scoreline when England beat Wales, so imagine the odds were a lot better than that.
Racist 😉
Waddle is great....
Chris Waddle is gonna explode!
English player's deficiencies brutally exposed again. Masked by technically and tactically better foreign players within their club sides. No movement, skill, guile. Awful. But funny. 😆
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Quite right CFH. Must never forget Glamorgan-on-Thames!
I caught the pre match gibbering with the kids, and the TV showed our previous knock-out stage wins since 1966. All 6. Out of 17. Stirling track record.
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If anyone wants a cheap rag for cleaning the bike, I reckon England kits will be getting reduced soon.
If Roy Hodgsen is looking for a new job I hear Jeremy Corbyn is hiring
(Plagerised from Twitter)
To be fair to woy, you could be the best manager in the world and still come unstuck on the back of the lack of skill by the players tonight
I think it's great that after all the turmoil of the referendum, the country can unite behind our football team. A good result will cheer everyone up and we can all begin to Move On.......ooooppps
I hope the fans go home quietly instead of trashing a few bars or kicking off with the French Fuzz...let's see what the morning news brings...
nicked from Nick
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@prodnose
Think someone's a little bit miffed.
lol....that Icelandic commentator (for those listening to 5Live).
I don't think it's technical ability that the England team lacks, it's tactical awareness and an organised, consistent style of play that all the players know inside and out.
The manager plays square pegs in round holes and constantly changes it from game-to-game.
Lee Dixon was right: You know how the Spanish, the Italians, the Germans, the French etc are going to play: No one knows how England will play on any given day. The players must think that as well.
@prodnose
Have followed, coz I like a bit of sweary
says it all when iceland dont even have a professional league and england have the richest.
Hard to get out of bed when you're sleeping in silk pyjamas! Cant help think that with all that money the hunger and desire is somewhat diminished.
I feel for the fans that paid dosh to watch that england team. Those 11 players should never put on an england shirt after that display
This frees Clattenburg up to play in the Finals.
He's flying the flag now.
Roy's gone.
Stolen from Twitter:
England squad costs 175m. If we exit, let's spend it on the NHS.
Cameron's gone!
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Woy's speech. Poor not to give any credit to Iceland.
Come on, you've got to take the positives...
So Roy had a prepared statement. That just shouts confidence.
are you suggesting he had a plan for something?
Roy is the only person who had prepared for a European exit
What a pussy, tho. Reads statement, and doesn't take any questions.
what vegetable will they use ?
What are they going to ask him? Whether there's a new policy not to let Harry Kane back in the country?
we had the turnip, we had the swede , how about a brocolli
What are they going to ask him?
I'd start with 'What the....?'.
Yellow Belly - MemberRoy is the only person who had prepared for a European exit
Hah, that made my day.
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I just don't understand it - after all the top-notch training ideas in the camp too.
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As a Scotland fan I'm feeling quite optimistic.
Oh god not Southgate
When it's all said and done, it's good we had an event that brought left and right together in unity to mock England FC. They are the hilarious glue we needed to bond our country back together.
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I can't remember a worse England performance since the last worst England performance. Pah.
What was going on with those substitutions?
Capt Flash - genius
Belgian commentator is on fire tonight.'Roy Hodgson is watching this game like a cow watching a train pass by. He has no idea what is happening.'
'Roy learned 40 years ago in a course that you do your first substitution during halftime, and then your second one after 60 minutes.'
Almost had my football mojo back, 90 minutes with England has pretty much killed it off.
Hilarious performance!
England were never going to win the tournament and Hodgson wasn't going to stay for the WC qualifiers so I'm not surprised he had a prepared statement to use at some point. Agree with the above comments that he should've acknowledged the Iceland players
In some ways it's a blessing- can you imagine the mauling this England team would've had from France?! 4 or 5-0 easy. Pogba vs Rooney in midfield ffs?!
Can't see anything changing for 10 years or more because there's only Rashford and Alli that seem any good out of the younger players
Alli has been absolutely shocking! Feted as the next big thing but what's he good at? Getting on the end of things? Doesn't cut it at international level. Rashford does have something though, you can see he's got half a football brain at least.
I enjoyed the match, we weren't going to get to the semis and Iceland where far better than us. Might as well go out in some style
its ok we cant afford to go to the next one
Might as well go out in some style
Which match was that?
The 3 full backs used looked OK. Would class them in Rushford and Alli group. But no-one played well tonight!
[i]lol....that Icelandic commentator (for those listening to 5Live).[/i]
What was it?
"DavidCameron! PrincessKate! EU referendums! OneDirection! Your boys took a hell of a beating!!"
Anyone else think Rooney is the biggest disappointment of the modern England football era? Hard to think of another player who, except through injury, completely failed to live up to expectations and promise? At least Gascoine lit up a tournament before succumbing to his demons
Nicked from the Guardian:
Knocked out of the Euros by Iceland, knocked out of Europe by people who shop at Iceland.
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+1Anyone else think Rooney is the biggest disappointment of the modern England football era?
Surely it's time for him to retire from international football now. I personally can't see him still being at the top level in two years time.
Knocked out of the Euros by Iceland, knocked out of Europe by people who shop at Iceland.
Brilliant. The headline of the day.
I thought Rooney did ok, one of our better players
As a Spurs fan it's not a pleasure to say Kane gave Sterling a run for his money as our most hopeless player tonight
I live in the Faroe Islands and eveyone here was supporting Iceland (the Faroes and Iceland are very close) The Faroese were shocked how England played and as the lone England supporter it was embarrassing....... 😯
Everyone was screaming at the tv towards the end, I just had my head in my hands.............
Rooney was the problem, to play him everyone was out of position and then he was so slow. He also offered no leadership.
What the hell had England actually planned to do before the match? Seriously a striker taking set pieces, no wingers taken to the tournament, no defensive set up for obvious set plays. My gut is Hodgson lost the players a long time ago.
Hodgson for PM!!
Far more fundermental than that: not enough young English kids kick footballs around anymore. I am sometimes quite surprised by the low level of fitness of the 16-24 range.
^^ He's got a point... Here in Germany I know of quite a few guys that play on weekends. Lots of sports grounds (proper ones with lights and stuff) around town and they are usually being used most evenings. The same in Austria and in Italy.
We have an excellent new 3g pitch in town which if you're not part of the club is incredibly hard to get a slot on. A lot of the lads in the 16/24 year bracket seem very into being gym bunnies these days however the interest in football is still huge. I've started assisting the coaching of my sons team and what I've noticed is that some of the kids (mostly 11) have a right ****ing attitude as if the game owes them something already. Doing my best to stamp that shit out and just getting them to work hard...
My son is almost 13. He has been diving for about 5 or 6 years and currently trains around 14 hours a week. When I watch him and his friends train it's obvious that they enjoy it and are having a good time but they are also very focussed. He knows that if he wants to get anywhere he has to work really hard. He also plays football every day at school as part of an SFA programme. From what he tells me a good few of the other kids on the programme are lazy, classic stand near the goals and demand everybody gives them ball. My son gets really frustrated by this and the coaches don't seem to do anything about it. The team he used to play for had the same issues, most of the kids just wanted to mess about and seemed unable to concentrate on the task in hand. A lot of the kids just weren't very fit, they don't seem very active in general. Two years after Angus left the boys don't seem to have developed much and the coaches still have the same issues. I wonder if the general standard of coaching isn't very high, what are they being taught when they get their coaching badges? There are plenty of teams to choose from where we live and reasonable facilities.
I have tried to be very mature about this but I still woke up and thought Iceland and then s****ed
That IS the mature approach.
Footballs just all wrong in the [s]UK[/s]England. No decent role models. Rooney bitching in the media last week as Hodgson didnt start him. There's no "I" in team... someone needs to tell them that. They're just overpaid eeejuts with massively inflated egos. They're living in the same world supermodels and film starts were/ are. How does that make sense? Someone said it before ref getting out of beds harder in silk pyjamas.
I am Welsh (genuinely) by the way.
The Welsh team on the other hand seem genuinely pleased to be at the Euros, they don't give me the impression that they think they're owed a passage to the semi finals, they seem to be just enjoying themselves getting there.
They seem like the team is more important than any one player which is quite a thing given Gareth Bale's in the team. He just seems like a genuinely grounded all round nice lad though and he's enjoying it. The whole of Wales are behind them, there's no thuggery and it's all good fun. Whats not to like.
Coaching is a real issue in UK and Wrightyson is the classic grassroots way, a good willed parent offers to help to ensure his son can play football, get out on a 16 hour coaching course and that's it you're a FA level 1 coach..
My son is lucky enough to have played academy football for last 4 years and the one big difference is not only the coaching and facilities but also parents. We are told not to coach from the side-lines and only to encourage the teams during a match, this is a major difference from Grassroots where you have both the coaches and parents shouting instructions to the boys whilst they play their game, if I go and watch my son's classmates in the team he used to play for I ask parents would you like to be shouted at work or whilst playing ?? they all answer no so why do they do it to their son, it's what we've always done is normally the reply..
My son loves the games and luckily is a hard working player and has been from the moment he first played aged 6, I firmly believe this cannot be coached into a player but like anything coaching can improve what nature gives you. I see all kinds of parents from the one's whose pension is out on the pitch to folk like me who tell their son the odds are stacked against you but having played and scored at clubs like Man Utd, Liverpool and Man City just enjoy the experience.
Footballs just all wrong in the UKEngland. No decent role models. Rooney bitching in the media last week as Hodgson didnt start him. There's no "I" in team... someone needs to tell them that. They're just overpaid eeejuts with massively inflated egos. They're living in the same world supermodels and film starts were/ are. How does that make sense? Someone said it before ref getting out of beds harder in silk pyjamas.
Aye, that's right, cos the French and the Italians are absolutely full of fine, stand up, bona fide role models.....
12hrs later and it's still hilarious.
Not sure what's going to be worse*, the fallout from last night or Brexit vote.
Still, at least Missus Binners is going to treat us all to Greggs pasty today with her winnings.
*I know it's the Brexit vote.
Coaching is a real issue in UK and Wrightyson is the classic grassroots way, a good willed parent offers to help to ensure his son can play football, get out on a 16 hour coaching course and that's it you're a FA level 1 coach..
Also most of the other European top league teams, have feeder teams in the lower divisions to develop their youth set-up.