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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/north_east/8533791.stm
Racist and likely to promote a riot or mildly amusing...latter for me but I'm Welsh!
Mildly amusing - and I'm English. Remember at the Euro's a couple of years ago when England didn't make it. The whole of Scotland suddenly didn't know who to support... 'til then it was APE - Anybody Playing England!
I can't see the epaulettes to hold the chips in place
Typical stuff that from Scottish & Welsh, they need there own money pit Assemblys to remind themselves of their nationality! The poor loves! 😆
Contrast the Scottish ABE/APE approach with the English WTFAS approach....
A bit of fun probably, but there are some people who really need to start getting over it. In the words of Renton, "Some people hate the English, but I don't. They're just ****ers. We, on the other hand, are colonized by ****ers.". Genius script writing.
Must get my ABM shirt ready for Wimbledon
WTFAS?
And besides, what's wrong with rivalry? I support whoever's playing England at rugby, because England are our rugby rivals. Is that so bad?
Really, it's a bit of a complement because if England weren't a threat we wouldn't care!
they need there own money pit Assemblys to remind themselves of their nationality!
or perhaps they don't care to be ruled by the Orangen Freistatd* called London ?
* remarkable for zero hits on Bing, and I can't remember its meaning 🙂
Racist and likely to promote a riot
how can it be racist when we're the same race after millenia of interbreeding ?
A welsh "success story"http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_east/8534147.stm
Well done girls!!
Ahh, my home town. I've not had any impact on the stats tho 😉
Slightly amusing and I'm not in the slightest bit concerned by it.
The only time this sort of stuff bugs me is when I'm told I have to support that loser....sorry tenis-ist Murray. He's Scottish and he wants to be seen so (supporting Argentina against England in the footie), so I don't have to support him. I was cheering Federer when he gave him a tennis lesson at the Aussie open. Fair enough.
Have the police got nothing better to do? Mental...
Tell that to all the households who will have twice the Council Tax increase to what England have, and to all the Teachers and other support staff who will loose their jobs because of the cut in funding for school budgets while the Welsh Assembly waste money on new offices for themselves and pay the rent of profitable business so they can occupy new business parks.or perhaps they don't care to be ruled by the Orangen Freistatd* called London
NOt racism but perhaps mild xenophobia?
Whae's like us? No' many an' their a' deid.
I see this as being similar to myself (a Rangers fan) wanting anyone except Celtic to win a tournament, or an Everton fan wanting anyone except Liverpool. It's more to do with a sporting rivalry (not that we've been good enough at ootbal to be seen as rivals in recent years!) but the country element allows those who're looking to be offended (and there are plenty of them about) to take offense.
In this case it looks like some d1ck of a policeman has tired to make something out of a non-issue.
I'm half English and half Scottish so like to think I'm unbiased on these things!
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of the cut in funding for school budgets while the Welsh Assembly waste money on new offices for themselves and pay the rent of profitable business so they can occupy new business parks.
and of course the wily Welsh pay no taxes of any kind ? You forgot to mention skiving immigrants too! Other culprits: Trident, The Army, The Olympics, The "Defence Industry" (subsidised gun-running) etc etc
SFB, will leave that for you to say, don't forget the 2nd home owners either.
I see this as being similar to myself (a Rangers fan) wanting anyone except Celtic to win a tournament
I guess you get what you want all the time then? & - conversely - so do the Celtic fans 🙂
I guess you get what you want all the time then? & - conversely - so do the Celtic fans
Well both have been to European finals in recent years, which is more than can be said for the vast majority of UK teams (barring 4 or 5 of the top English clubs).
TJ to the forum please, TJ to the forum please
The offended bus is on its way...
😆 Steve!
doctornickriviera - Member
A welsh "success story"http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_east/8534147.stm
Well done girls!!
After visit this area and other vallies last friday for work, that really does not surprise me!
They have babies to ensure they get an automatic right to everyhing and another excuse not to go to school!
At least I get to support my OWN countries team in the world cup, and not some other nation because their own national teams are as good as a bunch of blind school boys 😀
TJ to the forum please, TJ to the forum pleaseThe offended bus is on its way...
Strap yourselves in, we're all going on a guilt trip.
Anyone else read that as England Bashring?
I have been here too long.....
I think it is fairly gentle.I feel sorry for the poor couthy English football supporters who like to spend the whole game singing old George Formby numbers.It must be really hard to receive this unwarranted abuse from one of your oldest colonies.After everything you have done for us,may I be first to apologise for my countrymen.And may I take this opportunity to say how much I am looking forward to that nice Ian Wrighty and his chum with the ears sharing their in-depth analysis during the Summer months
Ian Wright on the TV is one reason why a neutral might find England difficult to support.
I see this as being similar to myself (a Rangers fan)
It'll be an England shirt for you then?
Once again, I am left feeling let down and unable to call anyone a nazi c*ckmonkey. What a load of not racist racism bo**ocks!
They have babies to ensure they get an automatic right to everyhing and another excuse not to go to school!
Know that for a fact, do you? You sound like you know a lot you clever chap...
Bigbutslimmer- like it!
Know that for a fact, do you? You sound like you know a lot you clever chap...
If you know of any other reason apart from poor birth control, please enlighten me!
It'll be an England shirt for you then?
Not my colour. Not that I actually own a Scotland shirt either.
As a teacher,the odd schoolgirl we get who is pregnant is terrified.Getting a house etc,is not really apparent as the motivation.IMO
There are times when I feel guilty about the A.B.E. mentality,
There's a lot to admire about the England team, they do seem to play as a greater-than-the-sum-of-their parts type squad, they are a good mix of people from across your country, north and south, black and white, there's even a few uglies like Rooney to show how down to earth the team is....
... an then I think back to EVERY F***IN' football event since 1966 and the triumphalist bollox of the media and pundits, and what we would have to put up with if it happened again... And I think nahhh! Anyone But England!
BTW, Jimmy Hill; He's a (offensive word removed) 😀
As stated on another forum;
And the really funny thing is that I know a good few Welsh and Scottish people who hate the English, when the vast majority of English people couldn't give a **** about bitter third world hangers on.
Seems to sum it up quite well.
Backhander;
As stated on another forum;And the really funny thing is that I know a good few Welsh and Scottish people who hate the English, when the vast majority of English people couldn't give a **** about bitter third world hangers on.Seems to sum it up quite well.
That sums up why the [i]majority[/i] of the rest of the world hate the English.(and they do!)
indeed it does sum up the attitude of the english and explain why they are disliked well spotted.
'english' isn't a race...
I remember when I was working during the 2002 world cup, the guy from cwmbran came in with a mexican hat one day, a yin-yan headband when we were playing S Korea etc. etc., ....very funny 🙂
indeed it does sum up the attitude of the english and explain why they are disliked well spotted.
Don't you mean attitude of the British? 😆
It's funny the police worrying about this but both Facebook and our own Government don't see any problem with a Facebook group anti-cycling campaign that includes posts stating that people should deliberately hurt cyclists and some that even state that they will do so. But apparently this is freedom of speech. Unless of course it's from a group of muslims protesting then it's fine.
That sums up why the majority of the rest of the world hate the English.(and they do!)
Most countries see british = english
So that ****s that idea
Glad to have been of help Junkyard.
There's a lot to admire about the England team, they do seem to play as a greater-than-the-sum-of-their parts type squad
Not sure I agree, althought it might be different now that there is a good manager in place. For years now I've thought England had one of the strongest international squads in the world, but have tended to underperform in major tournaments.
The main issue at the moment is a shortage of quality strikers - Rooney is a fabulous player, but if he's out he's not going to be replaced easily.
molgrips - Member
WTFAS?
Who The F Are Scotland 😉
That article comes as no surprise really. Gives the bitter and casual racist football fans north of the border something to do during the world cup i suppose.... 😉
I suspect if this was other way round, ie 'Anything but Scotland or Wales', a LOT more would be said.....
After all, it is almost accepted that having a go at the English is fine, but when the boot is on the other foot..... 😕
Am I missing the point entirely, or is the slogan on the t-shirt taking the p**s out of a football team, rather than criticising a 'race' of people?
FFS, there's bigger things happening in the world to get wound up about, or as I previously asked, am I missing the point?
Aye, just for information, Pretty much every pasty-coloured person across the countries of the British Isles is fairly indistinguishable from one another. Whether Scottish or English or Welsh, we're all the descendents of a late wave of Anglo-Germanic people. (the only true relic of an ancient Celtic population of BRITONS, is to be found in central Ireland, with a few in the Hebrides)
so this is CULTURAL bigotry, not racist!
...so thats OK then 🙂
Just football banter, pretty pathetic action by Grampian Police IMO
(still, great publicity for the shop!)
If it gets down to it all football is about rivalry, are we seriously going to arrest all of Ipswich town's supporters for gems such as this
'Your sister is your mother,
Your father is your brother,
You all shag one another,
The Norwich Family...'
Its all just friendly banter between two great nations.
I suspect if this was other way round, ie 'Anything but Scotland or Wales', a LOT more would be said.....
Mate, you should be in my office every 6 nations. I can assure you the English give every bit as good as they get, usually more.
(the only true relic of an ancient Celtic population of BRITONS, is to be found in central Ireland, with a few in the Hebrides
IIRC, when they did the Y chromosome study they found that Southern England was Anglo-Saxon, the rest of England was Danish Viking along with most of Scotland.. parts of Highland Scotland and the Isles were Norse Vikings along with parts of Ireland and Wales and most of Ireland was British/Celtic.
[i] I suspect if this was other way round, ie 'Anything but Scotland or Wales', a LOT more would be said.....
Mate, you should be in my office every 6 nations. I can assure you the English give every bit as good as they get, usually more.[/i]
In your office....right, that must be case for ALL English sporting fans then 😉
I dont think you will find hoards of English footy fans packing the pubs supporting whoever is playing Scotchland and wearing their shirts....ring any bells?
But i suppose English fans havent got so much to be bitter and jealous about and the slight problem that Scotchland dont tend to qualify for the tournament stages often either....... 😉
As a Scot, living in the south (Yorkshire since you ask), which of course has been a Scots colony since 1603, married to an English lass, with a son born in York, I think this demonstrates one of the great things about British (Scottish, English and the other places that is) culture - the right, nay obligation, to take the piss about anything and everything, any time, anyplace, anywhere. Anyone who regards that as racist (whether the English are a race or not) needs to see their doctor for a prescription of sense of humour.
Long may it continue.
Jimmy Hill; He's a (offensive word removed)
c'mon mate - there's no WAY JH is a scot !
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article5512401.ece
Aberdeen doesnt have the best record though. 😯
that Scotchland dont tend to qualify for the tournament stages often either
[pedant mode] I think you will find that up until 1990 Scotland had the best qualifying record (getting to the finals) of all having made it through the qualifying rounds 5 times in a row [/pedant mode]
Of course the only reason we had to go through the qualifying round so often was beacuse we never hosted of won it, but I like to think we're still the best qualifiers*.
*I am of course deluded
I'm completely ambivalent to the sweaties, couldn't care less about them. Our footballing rivals are the Argies, now they're a foe worthy of emnity.
What is the point exaclty of that? Oh yes nowt it's just wendy ball... What else do you expect. Now give me a sport with real history and values, not some sort of garbage just so people can make money.
[i]an then I think back to EVERY F***IN' football event since 1966 and the triumphalist bollox of the media [/i]
If we (ie Scotland) had ever won it then we'd bang on about it as well. Harmless sporting rivalry. England has the better football team, we've got the nicest mountain bike trails. I know which I prefer!
I dont agree, Kennyp, the thing that we hate isn't even the natural pride of the average English footiefan, its the media, the sports press, their sense of entitlement, that somehow England, the only team that matters, has been cheated out of their rightful winning place in every World cup since.
You've got a point about some of the more rabid English tabloid press, but if you actually listen closely to, say, the BBC covering England games, they don't in reality mention 1966 all that much, and they tend to be fairly realistic about England's chances.
Most football, and indeed sports, fans tend be view their own team quite favourably and believe they are hard done by.
And while some of the English media can be a bit cocky at times, equally the Scottish media tend to take offence at the slightest bit of what they imagine to be anti-Scottish bias, while being happy to dish out a lot of anti-English bias.
Luckily the majority of fans of both countries see it for what it is, just harmless fun.
Oh, and for those of you moaning about Andy Murray, try listening to what he actually says and not what he's making jokes about.
"If we (ie Scotland) had ever won it then we'd bang on about it as well"
It's lucky we'll never have to put that to the test really... we're enormously accomplished losers, I don't know how we'd adapt to victory.
kennyp what do you think you are doing bringing sensible rational comment into a Scotland/England thread? 🙂
It's a pit that all the Jocks living South of the border and their expat government in Brown, Darling and plethera of hangers on, also half of the BBC from Jockland don't want to live Anywhere But England
OoooooOOOooooh! Get you!
[i] I don't know how we'd adapt to victory. [/i]
Same way we adapt to defeat...........strong drink and Irn-Bru the next morning. Actually, that goes for draws as well.
The way I see it is England like to hype themselves up and then make an arse of it at the tournament. When Scotland used to get to (I like to hope one day we will again) a tournament, we knew we were shite so just got pissed and had a laugh. 😀
Plus, we won something not so long ago...
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...but do we bang on about it? I don't think so! Mainly cos none of can remember what it was...
[i]kennyp what do you think you are doing bringing sensible rational comment into a Scotland/England thread?[/i]
I know, I've just re-read my post and I'm ashamed. To make up for it, I'll recount a true story from the 1996 Euros, overheard in a pub in London just before the England - Scotland game:-
English Bloke: Why do you Jocks hate us so much?
Scottish Bloke: Did you see the opening ceremony?
English Bloke: Yeah.
Scottish bloke: Did you see the bit with St George and the dragon?
English Bloke: Yeah.
Scottish Bloke: Well most of Scotland was supporting the dragon!
[i]The way I see it is England like to hype themselves up and then make an arse of it at the tournament[/i]
Err, does the name Ally McLeod ring any bells? 🙂
Yeah, he took us to a World Cup on a high! That quickly decended into a very low low. How'd your lot do that year? 
Shoulda read back over your previous posts kenny huh? 😆
[i]How'd your lot do that year?[/i]
My lot? Well they lost 3-1 to Peru, drew 1-1 with Iran and beat Holland 3-2.
As for Ally McLeod, my tongue was in my cheek a bit. He was a great bloke who had us genuinely believing we'd win the World Cup. Who cares if it all went badly wrong. It was fun while it lasted.
[i]Shoulda read back over your previous posts kenny huh?[/i]
No worries, done the same myself many times.
Its bad enough being guff at football, but being guff at football banter is a serious new low.
TRUE STORY FROM PUB.
English and Scots guy talking about football.
Discussion raged on with usual banter and then Jock guy started talking about how they kicked England's arse at Bannockburn.
English Guy: forget that, remember when Mcallister missed the penalty and then Gazza stuck the ball over Hendrie's head and scored a classic....what a celebration as well.
Scots guy: Occchhh , now your talkng history.