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Amazing

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-60662541

 
Posted : 09/03/2022 8:34 am
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Incredible. 😳

 
Posted : 09/03/2022 8:41 am
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Amazing images. There's a feature on BBC breakfast shortly.

 
Posted : 09/03/2022 8:41 am
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Not my endurance. Still got no stamina

 
Posted : 09/03/2022 9:02 am
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That... That is awesome. 🙂

 
Posted : 09/03/2022 9:05 am
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Wow! Pretty amazing images!

I heard an article on the radio explaining that they were planning on looking for it & had a pretty good idea where it went down, but was pretty dubious as to whether they'd actually find anything.

It looks to be in amazing condition.
Is there a plan for it now? I take it, it can't/won't be raised?

 
Posted : 09/03/2022 9:06 am
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According to the BBC article it is a historical monument, so look but don't touch, no artefacts recovered or anything.

 
Posted : 09/03/2022 9:14 am
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Is there a plan for it now? I take it, it can’t/won’t be raised?

3km down, plus...

The wreck itself is a designated monument under the international Antarctic Treaty and must not be disturbed in any way. No physical artefacts have therefore been brought to the surface.

So they can't grab stuff to sell at auction, like they did for Titanic.

 
Posted : 09/03/2022 9:15 am
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It’s in amazing condition. Seeing the detail in the nameplates, the brass bolts and portholes all intact is incredible.

Compare that to the condition of the wreck of HMS Terror.

 
Posted : 09/03/2022 9:18 am
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I didn’t expect them to find it. Impressive!

 
Posted : 09/03/2022 9:21 am
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Wow! Didn't expect to see something that well preserved.
Dan Snow's history hit podcast has been reporting on this recently, it's a good listen.

 
Posted : 09/03/2022 10:05 am
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Incredible pics, astonishing it's so well preserved.

 
Posted : 09/03/2022 10:07 am
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This is absolutely fantastic and has made my day.

A good news story in the never ending doom and gloom from around the world.

 
Posted : 09/03/2022 10:22 am
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Amazing photos - She’s in absolutely stunning condition!

A bit sobering to think that the only reason they could get to the location that she sank (recorded by Shackleton) was because of the unusually low extent of the sea ice.

Fantastic.

If anyone hasn’t done so, read “South”, the account of the expedition.

Mrs. Chippy RIP

 
Posted : 09/03/2022 10:40 am
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It’s incredible. My mate is the medic on the expedition and he posted a couple of days ago they were returning home, but there was no mention if they had found Enudurance. I had feared they had failed. I love Mensun Bounds enthusiasm in that BBC clip

 
Posted : 09/03/2022 11:29 am
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Incredible preservation due to the environment.

Looks like it could be raised, refitted and used almost.

 
Posted : 09/03/2022 11:32 am
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One of my favourite pictures.

 
Posted : 09/03/2022 11:44 am
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^^ I love that picture.

Here's one of my new favourites:

Shackleton and his crew.

 
Posted : 09/03/2022 11:49 am
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^^ Tough, tough guys.

I want to search out the drama/ doc of this amazing expedition again.

Was it made by the BBC?

 
Posted : 09/03/2022 11:51 am
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Amazing!

Wonder if my endurance is done there too 🤔

 
Posted : 09/03/2022 11:51 am
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Deffo Poopscoop. Iconic in so many respects.

I reset myself by thinking of this guy whenever I'm having a 'challenging' day. What would Crean do?

 
Posted : 09/03/2022 11:51 am
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One odd and disturbing parallel is the Endurance advanced crew arriving in South Georgia to find out 'The world had gone mad'. The same could be said of this expedition to find Endurance.

Soz.

 
Posted : 09/03/2022 11:57 am
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I want to search out the drama/ doc of this amazing expedition again.

Was it made by the BBC?

Is it this one on All 4?

 
Posted : 09/03/2022 12:07 pm
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Compare that to the condition of the wreck of HMS Terror.

Yeah but that's because of the tuunbaq

 
Posted : 09/03/2022 1:52 pm
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According to the BBC article it is a historical monument, so look but don’t touch, no artefacts recovered or anything.

Does anyone know why it was designated as a monument? Nobody died on it (iirc), and surely there would be far more use to having it in a museum, or similar, rather than on the seabed. (I'm thinking hypothetically here, if it had been found to be salvageable.)

 
Posted : 09/03/2022 1:59 pm
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I want to search out the drama/ doc of this amazing expedition again.

Was it made by the BBC?

Is it this one on All 4?

That's the one! Just added it to my watch list. Great drama about the crews incredible termination to survive if anyone hasn't seen it.👍

Humbling to say the least.

 
Posted : 09/03/2022 2:04 pm
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From memory the end credits of that docudrama are very sobering

 
Posted : 09/03/2022 2:23 pm
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Clive Cussler is dispatching Dirk Pitt as you read this

 
Posted : 09/03/2022 2:33 pm
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Clive Cussler The Tally Ho Boat builders are dispatching Dirk Pitt Leo Sampson as you read this

🙂

 
Posted : 09/03/2022 3:22 pm
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Finding that wreck is one of the great achievements of the early part of this century, I reckon. Deserves proper kudos points.
I've read the Alfred Lansing book several times and there's one section of it that never fails to get to me.
The ship left S Georgia in late 1914, Shackleton, Worsley and Crean returned to the whaling station almost 18 months later; they requested to be taken to the manager.
"Who the hell are you?" asked Sorlle
"My name is Shackleton" came the reply in a quiet voice.
That reduces me to tears every time I read it.

 
Posted : 09/03/2022 3:36 pm
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A few years ago I was on a flight from AMS to LHR and sat next to a chap who was wearing a Rolex Comex Sub. I commented on his watch and he said he used to work as a diver for them back in the day.
He now lived in norway, and as he was in his final years of his career, he was more about ROV exploration.

He mentioned his latest project was to find the Endurance. Fascinating chap and what an achievement! 👏🏼

 
Posted : 09/03/2022 11:59 pm
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My mate has confirmed on social media they’re paying their respects and visiting Shackleton

 
Posted : 11/03/2022 9:55 pm
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surely there would be far more use to having it in a museum, or similar, rather than on the seabed. (I’m thinking hypothetically here, if it had been found to be salvageable.)

At the risk of sounding a bit cold (no pun intended) what would be the point? It's clearly in an environment where it will be preserved if left and the efforts to maintain it out of water will be immense. Allied to that it's not that old and it's design, construction, use, etc. is probably all well documented. Would there be much to learn about it from lifting it from a tricky spot, taking into consideration the environmental impact and ongoing maintenance?

 
Posted : 12/03/2022 4:40 pm
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Strange to think that we can find Roman/Greek/Viking vessels (or parts of) and other wooden ships after 100s of years of being submerged but in a few centuries our descendants won’t be able to see any WWI or WWII wrecks

 
Posted : 12/03/2022 4:55 pm
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surely there would be far more use to having it in a museum, or similar, rather than on the seabed. (I’m thinking hypothetically here, if it had been found to be salvageable.)

You can already see similar ships, e.g.

https://www.rrsdiscovery.co.uk/exploration-article/the-ship/

I went round (again) in the autumn - we had a brilliant guide who was properly into the ship and the expeditions.

 
Posted : 12/03/2022 4:59 pm
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Incredible preservation due to the environment.

Absolutely! It’s apparently due to the fact that it’s not an environment where shipworms can exists, so it’s only organisms like sea anemone and other non-boring creatures that have colonised it. I hadn’t realised that the ship’s original name was Polaris, and she still carries the big brass star on her stern.

Extraordinary achievement finding her, she’s only something like six miles from an estimated position set by, I think, her navigator when she was trapped. Shackleton left some food supplies behind in order to bring back the film of her as she was going under, with her mast collapsing, quite emotional to watch that footage now she’s been found.

 
Posted : 12/03/2022 6:24 pm
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she’s only something like six miles from an estimated position set by, I think, her navigator when she was trapped

About 4 miles horizontally and almost 2 miles vertically!

The position of the sinking was recorded by Captain Worsley - She was trapped in ice for about 10 months before she was crushed, during which time she drifted with the ice.

Getting trapped in the ice was not an accident - it seems it was quite a common thing to do (amongst polar explorers, at least) - see 'Farthest North' about the voyage of Nansen on the ship Fram.

 
Posted : 12/03/2022 8:23 pm
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Fram was designed to rise up out of the ice when it closed in. Endurance (Polaris) had a deeper keel which in the end was her undoing. Both fantastic boats.

 
Posted : 12/03/2022 10:08 pm