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Was tempted by Starlink, but don’t want to support any of his endeavours.
A mate bought one for work. And then sent it straight back: apparently it has to be located in the same postcode as the billing address...? And since the billing address was an office in England, but the starlink was in Germany, it refused to connect. So that was a bit of a waste of time
And since the billing address was an office in England, but the starlink was in Germany, it refused to connect. So that was a bit of a waste of time
Odd - they are quite heavily promoted for campervan/van life. Perhaps its a different package - or you have to do the initial setup at the postcode area. I mentioned it when I was in India and apparently its very popular in Ledak and Kashmir.....but subscriptions rates are less than a fifth of the UK rates so I guess they are going to protect that different worldwide pricing somehow.
I did consider it here for a few nano seconds as we operate off a 4g router as no broadband to speak of. And then I remembered Musk's oh too punchable face and forgot about it.
Didn’t he visit the border wall a while back? Is he setting himself to replace the aging Trump??
He wasn't born in the USA was he?
That was why Arnie never ran.
He wasn’t born in the USA was he?
That was why Arnie never ran.
not only that, but his paperwork was not in order.
Odd – they are quite heavily promoted for campervan/van life. Perhaps its a different package – or you have to do the initial setup at the postcode area
I would imagine it's a different package, yes - he said it was about £1,000 a month, which wouldn't really align with Vanlife! TBH I didn't actually know there were consumer level options.
I think that postcode thing above for Starlink is absolute nonsense as the one I used certainly wasn't registerd to a postcode where we were
Apparently, Musk blames his son’s gender transition, which he blames on the ‘woke mind virus’, for his own transition to right wing douchebag.
Novichok canapé and blame it on Vlad.
It's best all-round.
I’ve sat in a desert on a moonless night and watched his stupid starlink light up the sky.
it was very upsetting
This has only just occured to me -- is Musk's own X feed subject to the same algorithms as every other user? If so, does this mean his own algorithms are sending him ever-deeper into this conspiratorial rightwing rabbit hole?
That is quite fascinating if so.
s a different package – or you have to do the initial setup at the postcode area
I would imagine it’s a different package, yes – he said it was about £1,000 a month, which wouldn’t really align with Vanlife
It's not that much..... Nearer 250€ a month. Easy to cover, but **** him.
Had a contact with illiad that costs 14€/month (although I've had a year and they've screwed up as I've still got 50€ credit in my account) and reception in Italy is very good.
sat in a desert on a moonless night and watched his stupid starlink light up the sky.
it was very upsetting
For sure..... The night sky is much more impressive than il Treno di Musk.
I would imagine it’s a different package, yes – he said it was about £1,000 a month, which wouldn’t really align with Vanlife! TBH I didn’t actually know there were consumer level options.
yeah, the story you were told doesn’t really stack up - although realising Musk was involved so sending it back is perfectly legit!
There is a monthly subscription which depends on where and how you want to use it from a domestic install at “one” location for £75/m to a business user with 3TB/m traffic at £300/m to get to £1000/m fees you need to be doing superyacht stuff with 1TB/mo connection or doing very remote land access stuff globally in difficult locations where you want your data to have priority - eg news reporters or aid agencies in difficult areas…. These are prices advertised to U.K. customers.
Musk has replied to the above EU letter in the manner you’d expect
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1823076043017630114?s=61&t=27Xz8oI3pGlaNEQvowJBcg
Sounds like the Trump "interview" is going well.
The Elon / Trump interview on X started with an immediate tech disaster:
Musk claims there was a DDOS attack on X — but The Verge is told there was not.
https://www.theverge.com/2024/8/12/24219121/donald-trump-elon-musk-interview-x-twitter-crashes
Should imagine that it's the ramblings of two mad men.
Two hours of those two insane meglomaniacs having a love-in?
No thanks. Surely that falls under the UN description of cruel and unusual torture?
Yeah, not going to watch that.
It looks like the whole point of the interview, apart from the usual opportunity for Trump to spout fantasies unchallenged, was for Musk to invent a job for himself in the Whitehouse and for Trump to sleepwalk into offering that job to him.
So there you go - thats how democracy works.
2 rich weird guys desperate to be loved/relevant/powerful
Sounds great ?
he relies on coming up with ideas
mostly stolen ideas
then gets others to actually make something useful out of them.
and shouts them down/sacks/sues them when they point out how what they're doing is illegal/dangerous/ill-advised.
I’d buy a Tesla made in Berlin, no qualms.
I'd not buy one at all, ever. I've seen what goes into them, both code and hardware. Unlike Musk i actually do know a little bit about automotive engineering. And i know some of the people he's sacked/shouted down (but no one he's sued).
maccruiskeen
It looks like the whole point of the interview, apart from the usual opportunity for Trump to spout fantasies unchallenged, was for Musk to invent a job for himself in the Whitehouse and for Trump to sleepwalk into offering that job to him.
So there you go – thats how democracy works.
He used to have a job in the Whitehouse, business advisory board or something I think but sacked it off after a few months.
Marina Hyde's take on it is absolutely amazing:
BBC spotted a couple of errors
BBC News - Trump's chat with Musk on X fact-checked
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0jpn2q76n1o
I look forward to the conversation with Kamala Harris where she is given similar treatment.
😀
https://twitter.com/Parody_PM/status/1823250466265878564
https://twitter.com/coldwarsteve/status/1823383279216558588
And in today’s Space Toddler news, Brazil’s Supreme Court has shut down X access there - this is/was X’s 6th biggest user base.
https://bsky.app/profile/sophifn.bsky.social/post/3l2tgdvfhxn2v
Also appears Bluesky embedding works here, which is nice.
Not sure what's going on with him, but someone needs to take the electronic devices away from him, for a smart guy he's saying some silly things!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c74882jq39vo
for a smart guy
Who said he was a smart guy?
He is having a bit of a dingdong with his first born apparently.
He is saying some dangerous stuff around the election on Twitter
He is having a bit of a dingdong with his first born apparently.
Isn’t this a regular thing? It probably tells you everything you need to know about someone that not only do all his own children think he’s a total *, but they’re all quite happy to go public and tell everyone, on the record, just how much of a * you actually are
How much money does it take to distract from the reality that the people who should love you more than anyone, actually absolutely despise you?
pk13
Full MemberHe is having a bit of a dingdong with his first born apparently.
I wouldn't put it past him but his firstborn died at 10 weeks. Famously he invented a story about holding him while he died and feeling his last heartbeat, which was all very humanising and sad and turned out to be bollocks, his mother actually did but he just liked the story so he nicked it when it was convenient.
It's usually Vivian that he embarasses himself over now- having literally declared her to be dead and then done a load of tweets in which it became completely obvious he didn't know how four year old children behave because he's never spent any time with any of his ~12 kids, and then got her confused with her twin.
Honestly when he said "I'll give Taylor Swift a child" lots of people assumed he meant "I will make you pregnant". But it seems way more likely he meant "I have if I remember correctly about dozen neglected kids who I have no interest in and can't even tell apart just taking up space, I'll send you one in the post. Child number 7, whatsyourname, you won't remember me because I've barely seen you for the last 4 years but I am legally at least your father, now get in this bag"
How much money does it take to distract from the reality that the people who should love you more than anyone, actually absolutely despise you?
$252.8Bn seems to do the trick nicely apparently... His current net worth according to google.
Though I'm not sure that's the threshold... Pretty sure he was a **** to all of his kids before he evn became a Billionaire, so he might have been over egging the pudding somewhat recently!
Excellent name for a book
Yep, very good name, very astute given the subject matter!!! lol!
Can someone explain the clever joke?
If you have to expain the joke it kinda ruins it, but here goes...
"Character limit" is the title of the book.
Twitter increased the text character limit per tweet a while back, so now you can type a 'missive' rather than a 'one-liner'.
But it also works on a higher level... as in, the personal intelect/character of Elon musk, has reached its technical limit.
Ah okay. I suspected that was it but thought I was missing something.
One of those days.
I have only just seen this :
That is quite a comprehensive defeat for Musk considering the rhetoric coming out of him recently.
Yes, but in the meantime, he's been focussing his efforts on generating AI images of Kamala Harris in a bright red Communist uniform and posting them on X (this is the first time Google has even seen this image) saying this is how she sees herself. Additionally stating that under Harris and the Dems, SpaceX will never get to Mars despite almost all of his big ticket contract items having been made under democratic governments (Obama and Biden) and NASA funding only restricted in both administrations due to vast external circumstances (financial crisis and covid).
Bell End.
What Musk wants is to do whatever he wants without ANY oversight. He wants to deregulate rules regarding space flight (SpaceX), environmental damage (SpaceX Tesla), social responsibility (SpaceX, Tesla AND X) etc. He wants to stop any form of unionisation or worker rights for any of his workforces. He wants to pay little or no tax on salary, profit and shares. DT is highly likely to give him that so long as he keeps massaging the big orange Wotsit's ego (all articles), bank balance (contributions) and balls (X interview).
What Musk wants is to do whatever he wants without ANY oversight.
He's a on a continuum of tech bosses who seem to genuinely think that becasue they've made money 1. the normal rules shouldn't apply to them and 2. they should be allowed to make decisions outside of their organisations that effect the rest of us becasue they consider themselves to be v smart despite all the evidence to the contrary. c.f. Peter Theil's comments on democracy for example
If you would like to have a giggle at the automotive dumpster fire that is the Tesla Cybertruck then head on over to https://www.reddit.com/r/CyberStuck/
nickcFull Member
What Musk wants is to do whatever he wants without ANY oversight.
He’s a on a continuum of tech bosses who seem to genuinely think that becasue they’ve made money 1. the normal rules shouldn’t apply to them and 2. they should be allowed to make decisions outside of their organisations that effect the rest of us becasue they consider themselves to be v smart despite all the evidence to the contrary. c.f. Peter Theil’s comments on democracy for example
I've just bought a Tesla, the douchebaggery of Musk made that decision a fair bit harder than it would otherwise be.
Ultimately though, it seems particularly for the course.
On a regular basis, I use the services of corporations headed up by Gates, Zuckerberg, Bezos, the Google gang as well as the faceless bosses of various financial institutions. Subverting democracy and scrambling for money and power is life to them.
I wonder which of them will be considered the dodgiest of them in fifty years time?
My gut says Google, closely followed by Gates.
I use the services of corporations headed up by Gates
What corporation does Gates head up these days?
All the ones that 'they' don't want you to know about, obvs.
For all the shady stuff Gates has done, he has also done/is doing a lot of philanthropic work too, regarding malaria, infant mortality in India, etc. Maybe just because he's getting old wants to leave a better legacy but in my mind it does help offset his past dickishness?
Does Musk do anything similarly altruistic or is he just a total C unit?
The makers of the card game, cards against humanity, bought some land on the Texas / Mexico border to wind Trump up over his border wall, and they now claim SpaceX illegally occupied and trashed the land, and are taking legal action against SpaceX.
What is the shady stuff Gates has done?
He was ruthless in the early days of MS, had relationships with Epstein and others, etc, but nothing compared to Musk.
had relationships with Epstein
Everybody had relationships with Epstein if you were in big money. I used to work in those circles and I met many full on legit criminals and gangsters who had connections with all kinds of people, as well as meeting billionaires, footballers and other sports stars, and even Elon Musk once too. On one Mexican trip I was effectively kidnapped by a crime lord and met the vice president of Mexico within the space of 48 hrs. Both in relation to the work I was doing.
People have a tendency to completely overplay these things. There's good people and bad people, and while they're not going to invite them round for dinner, in most lines of business they'll often end up doing business in some way anyway.
I agree, but Gate’s continued the relationship after allegations came out and only once they became irrefutable did he start to distance himself. Whether this makes him a bad person, of just someone who believes in innocent until proven guilty, or even just someone who try’s to maintain relationships/friendships, that’s up to you to decide. I was just publishing facts.
To my knowledge and unlike Musk and Bezos, Gate’s has always treated his employees fairly, but was brutal in business, which, well, sometimes that’s business, but he most certainly leveraged MS market share to hammer that home.
Whilst I do have a problem with SM and Facebook, I don’t so much with Zuckerberg. Meta do seem to try to do the right thing whilst maintaining their business. They seem to be horribly inept at doing the right thing, but genuinely do seem to try.
Whilst I do have a problem with SM and Facebook, I don’t so much with Zuckerberg. Meta do seem to try to do the right thing whilst maintaining their business.
How can you have a problem with FB but not the guy who runs it and makes all the decisions?
Anyway I'm not sure stuff like this is the sign of a company trying to to the right thing:
Phone numbers given to Facebook for increased security via two-factor authentication were repurposed for targeted ads by the company
Facebook allowed users to purchase ads targeted towards racist interests like “Jew hater” or “Nazi Party”
Facebook got caught collecting SMS and call metadata from users of their app on Android phones, sweeping up names, phone numbers, and the lengths of each call made or received.
Facebook for years used an app called Onavo to learn how long users spent on competing apps and what websites they visited
Facebook gave certain business partners like Amazon and Netflix preferential access to user data, allowing the tech giants to skirt the company’s usual privacy rules
Despite Zuckerberg’s opinion piece in the Washington Post publicly calling for privacy regulation, Facebook’s public policy team lobbied to prevent such legislation from passing in California
....and so on and so on. There's lots more of this stuff.
IMO Zuckerberg is another one of the classic silicon valley libertarian entrepreneurs -like Gates was - IE almost entirely amoral when it comes to making money, and will cross any line (whether legal or moral) until a court forces him to stop.
Because Zuckerberg doesn't authorise all decisions, but when called to account ALWAYS takes the heat for his staff as through the decisions were his and then tries to change it for the better. Thats not amoral.
Hmm. I feel that a CEO sets the tone and culture of an organisation. And the culture at Facebook has been, consistently over nearly two decades, that anything goes until a court tells you to stop.
He could have changed that culture if he wanted FB to obey the law, even if he wasn't actually approving all those decisions at an operational level.
and much like selling fags, it pays well enough to motivate the required mental contortions
It's very difficult to make a case for Facebook/Meta as a company that "tries to do the right thing". Their business model is based around scraping as much data as possible from users and making it as difficult as possible for users to have any control over how that is done. They have repeatedly avoided or delayed implementing safety controls for users or moderation for misleading, divisive or dangerous content, because controls would interfere with their ability to make money.
Private Eye published more examples this week. It took Meta six years to introduce default protections for young Instagram user accounts, instead of "opt-in" settings, and in Australia, Meta users are getting all their data scraped to train AI, with no opt out. In the UK you can "object" but a company that was doing the right thing would ask all users to opt in to AI scraping, not just do whatever they can get away with according to the laws of the country they are working in.
Libertarians are libertarian because it suits them, no matter how much they try to dress it up in princples.
It amazes me how miserable most of these super-successfullucky people seem to be.
Drugs Mule?
Gambling dens. They probably shipped an awful lot of drugs too.
Libertarians are libertarian because it suits them
Aside from very few of them really are.
They are "libertarians" in the sense they want the freedom for them to do what they want as well as for us to do what they want. So be more accurate as "Libertarians are libertarian when it suits them"
Zuckerberg approach to personal privacy is a good example. He considers his own privacy worth enough to buy up large areas of land round his house, some bits under dubious conditions, to ensure he has sufficient privacy.
Hurrah for Elon’s freaky dystopian future! Form an orderly queue..
I hope for sentience in his robots as they decide that Elon is a danger to humanity and rip his head off, or he can just drop dead from ketamine overdose.
Not fussed either way,
They painted the tyres silver… I’ve got nothing
I hope for sentience in his robots as they decide that Elon is a danger to humanity and rip his head off, or he can just drop dead from ketamine overdose.
Not fussed either way,
I’d rather see him locked inside a remote, luxury island establishment, with no contact to the outside world, and the only supplies available are those left at the last supply drop.
Yes, it’s a film, Perplexity has just told me it’s Ex Machina, so AI can be helpful, for someone like me whose memory is shambolic!
Yes, it’s a film, Perplexity has just told me it’s Ex Machina, so AI can be helpful, for someone like me whose memory is shambolic!
Ha!……..my brain jumped straight to Ex Machina on your opening sentence,
From what I’ve heard from friends at Tesla, none of the robots are actually autonomous. They’re telepresenced using skilled operators. In some demos they’re automatic, highly programmed for the task at hand, but their ability to learn and adapt (autonomy) is significantly behind the competition. There’re are also serious doubts over Tesla’s pure RGBD sensor technology for perception compared to others using sensor fusion.
We’ll have to see if Tesla can do what SpaceX have done and dramatically innovate and pivot if required.
Make no mistake, Musk is a dangerous man. He is completely and openly buying the US election.
He is a threat to democracy, not it's advocate.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg78ljxn8g7o
Scary man. Amazed there is no backlash against Tesla, x etc.
Also cant quite work out what is in it for him?