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Outlawing pavement parking is a great step forwards.
But they’re still parking their cars on the roads.
If they phased out such roadside parking, they’d quickly devise some kind of egalitarian alternative.
The problem with all the cycling/ walking initiatives in the uk is that there has been some carrot but no stick.
tjagain
Full MemberNorthwinds picture I bet that was grass when built. so many folk parked on it it wrecked the grass hence the concrete reinforcing put in later.
Very much doubt it tbh, when you see it, it's very "factory fit", all the same preformed sections knitting in perfectly without the gaps and fills and oddness you'd expect with a rebuild. The effort and cost to redo streets like this just makes it really unlikely, compared with the cheap and ugly methods they could and often did use.
But, at the very least it's decades old, and was designed and built as parking spaces when it was done, so i don't think it makes any difference to the reality.
Fair enough northwind. I was just looking at the age of the houses. Pre war? Certainly no later than the 50s but I do take your point
Very much doubt it tbh, when you see it, it’s very “factory fit”, all the same preformed sections knitting in perfectly without the gaps and fills and oddness you’d expect with a rebuild. The effort and cost to redo streets like this just makes it really unlikely, compared with the cheap and ugly methods they could and often did use.
Nah, they did it in Troon along one of the main roads through the scheme about 30odd years ago, the side streets still have grass.
But that's my point, it was never suitable for walking on anyway and at least your example is porous unlike tarmac. The pavement isn't any smaller than it was.
When did you last use public transport Josh?
Edinburgh has a very good public transport system. there are designated park and ride. there are train / tram stations east west and south of the city where you can park. You can get all day travel on the buses for less than a few hours parking charge. newcraighall park and ride is 50p for parking per day Buses run less than every 15 mins plus trains every half hour. trains take 11 mins to the city centre, bus 40 odd mins
Sherrifhall – parking free, plenty of buses.
Plenty of other designated park and ride or unofficial park and ride options
Lots of the busses cross the city centre
Ooooh... Every week for the last 10 years? When was the last time YOU used the busses?
I generally agree with you on most points on here. But you are so deluded by Edinburgh public transport system, probably from living in the best served area outside Princes Street.
As stated the busses are fine, if the routes work for you *cough* IE you live in Leith *cough* then crack on.
The system needs rotary routes, an outer linking the park and rides and stations. An inner that links the major points, shopping centres, kings buildings and the residential areas.
What the current system does is drag everybody bar a few exception along Princes Street... That is not a public transport system build for getting people where they want to be.
I can literally cycle from Peebles to work faster than I can get public transport. And I'll give you a hint. I can't beat the bus to the outskirts ( I can cheat and put the bike in the bus though... But that's not lrt so you don't get to count that!)
Fair enough Not been on a bus for a week or two as I now use the tram when I can
yes it could do with "rims" as well as "spokes" for sure. At the moment it is basically spokes and hub
I just get frustrated with folk who never use it claiming things about it that are wrong as we have a couple of examples of on this thread ie all buses terminate at princes street 🙂 or that you cannot get a bus to anywhere bar princes street from any of the park and rides.
And I do use the buses, not often admittedly but I'm very aware of how they work.
Our last house had roads plenty wide to park on, but some twonks would still park up on the pavement.
Its maybe not what you meant Steven but it is what you said
I imagine most park and rides do the same, take you from the outskirts to the centre, in this case Princes St.
Anyway - enough bickering about public transport. Edinburgh is far from perfect but its a zillion % better than most places I would think we can agree
Can we just shoot pavement parkers?
Our last house had roads plenty wide to park on, but some twonks would still park up on the pavement.
We have this. I will never understand.
I walk past this whenever I go into town and each time I go round it with the buggy I hate the owner a little more.
all buses terminate at princes street 🙂 or that you cannot get a bus to anywhere bar princes street from any of the park and rides.
I did not say either of those things. You are not right all of the time despite what you think. From most if not all of the "park and rides" you can get to the centre of Edinburgh, IE Princes Street. Some buses will cross it, some will go along it. From my recollection of living near York, their system did the same, took you to or near the city centre.
Aye - I get what you mean now. Its just your statement could be read in other ways. I quoted it above. Usual limitations of text based stuff
For the pedants.
From Newcraighall get a train to Waverley or a 30 bus to Princess St.
From Sherrifhall a 33 bus to Princes St.
From Straiton an X62 which crosses Princes St at the Mound.
From Hermiston there are at least two buses to Princes St. I'm not doing everything for you.
From Ingliston, again several options, all of which probably take you to or near Princes St but now I'm losing the will to live.
There is not a terminus on Princes St and some buses go elsewhere, I'm not the internet Mr Google is your friend.
They're not perfect but Edinburgh buses are alright, it's not a big city, it's a nice place to walk too. People are arseholes, see also supermarket car parks and people taking up two spaces or parking in disabled bays. I'm done now.
🙂