[Closed] Eddy Shah opens a can of worms

Wow.

It has also been implied that I am odd in being 100% sure that everyone I have shagged was over 16. If that's odd so be it, I am happy to be odd

Well as you well know, you implied that I was a paedophile because I didn't check the birth certificate of the girls I slept with when I was 18, I didn't call you odd, I just suggested that your claim wasn't the norm for 18 year old's.

Can you point out where I have displayed paranoia or hysteria, or where I have just written stuff to appear worthy?

You mean where you claimed to know better than the judge who listened to the details of the case, through your deep knowledge of media reports.

So you can string them up?

No more so we can find out who you are accusing.

you implied that I was a paedophile because I didn't check the birth certificate of the girls I slept with when I was 18

did I really

Can you point out where I have displayed paranoia or hysteria, or where I have just written stuff to appear worthy?

You mean where you claimed to know better than the judge who listened to the details of the case, through your deep knowledge of media reports.

I think you may be in need of a dictionary

No, it was deleted after about 20 posts.

you implied that I was a paedophile

That's not how I read it. But perhaps attempting to provide some sort of justification for men who have sex with children has left you feeling uncomfortable and a tad guilty ?

As ever, I find the attitudes displayed on this type of thread to be disturbing in the extreme.

The last one:
[url= http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/jeremy-forrest-guilty-what-do-we-think ]Linky.[/url]

I really find it very, very sad that seemingly rational adults can attempt to justify the sexual abuse of a child.

Not that surprised tbh. Consistent with the level of general misogeny on here apparently not much of a leap to start applying it to children too.

Doesn't make it any less disturbing of course.

That's not how I read it. But perhaps attempting to provide some sort of justification for men who have sex with children has left you feeling uncomfortable and a tad guilty ?

Well re-read it then, it is quite clear.

I really find it very, very sad that seemingly rational adults can attempt to justify the sexual abuse of a child.

No one is, but some of us are saying that there are circumstances that should effect the sentencing. Unfortunately the high and mighty are using that as an opportunity to jump on their pulpits and proclaim everyone a paedophile.

I reckon MSP fell victim to a predator at the weekend..

proclaim everyone a paedophile.

There you go again. Claiming some sort of justification for middle-aged men who have sex with 13 year old children because a 13 year girl can be a sexual predator doesn't automatically mean that you are a paedophile. Although presumably it helps if you are. Most normal people would have serious problems arguing that case.

If it's high and mighty to suggest that an adult should have the will power to fend of a child's sexual advances, then high and mighty am I.

So that's now Ernie and AA who have insinuated I am a paedophile. Just because I believe that the judge may have had more information to base his judgement on than the media led hysteria that you base yours on.

Just proves my earlier statement

No one is, but some of us are saying that there are circumstances that should effect the sentencing. Unfortunately the high and mighty are using that as an opportunity to jump on their pulpits and proclaim everyone a paedophile.

Unfortunately the high and mighty are using that as an opportunity to jump on their pulpits and proclaim everyone a paedophile.

I'm sure if people were running around this thread calling you a paedophile they would have rightly been banned by now. So if you would kindly stop throwing shit at everyone else we might be able to continue the discussion.

If it's high and mighty to suggest that an adult should have the will power to fend of a child's sexual advances, then high and mighty am I.

Lets not forget the criminal in question was correctly found guilty, but all the circumstances were taken into account for sentencing. Isn't that what we expect out of the justice system?

So that's now Ernie and AA who have insinuated I am a paedophile.

Try reading this again [i]slowly[/i] :

Claiming some sort of justification for middle-aged men who have sex with 13 year old children because a 13 year girl can be a sexual predator [i][b]doesn't automatically mean that you are a paedophile[/i][/b]. Although presumably it helps if you are. Most normal people would have serious problems arguing that case.

So that's now Ernie and AA who have insinuated I am a paedophile

I believe it was you who suggested that as an 18 year old adult you did not know the age of people you slept with. I insinuated nothing other than stating that I did which you reckon is odd.

The insinuations from both of you are quite clear, its almost comical that you are now trying to back pedal from them.

Let's stop using an extreme case to close down the debate. A 13 year old girl and 42 year old man is clearly wrong.

But what about a 15 year old girl and 17 year old 'man'?

Are you sure there is absolutely no scenario where a predetory female can be taken into consideration when sentencing? If you can't admit there is any grey area then I give up.

The insinuations from both of you are quite clear, its almost comical that you are now trying to back pedal from them.

Back pedaling ? How is copying and pasting [u]exactly the same words[/u] "back pedaling" ? ffs

You insinuated you may or may not have slept with under age girls I've done little more than state that I haven't.

Highlighting a small part of your statement doesn't change the meaning of the overall statement ernie.

And AA maybe you want to go back and read the first page.

no but I knew what year they were in at school or I knew they were uni students so I didnt have to.[b] I preferred girls my age. Maybe you were different.[/b]

Every girl i shagged, until it no longer became a doubt over their age. Obviously you think this odd, [b]I dont think this is the place to ask why.[/b]

The insinuations of you being a paedo are in your head or you would have reported the posters and had the rightly banned, the post and probably the thread deleted. Instead we get weak emboldened links where folk seem to have been as rude to you as you were to them

If it's high and mighty to suggest that an adult should have the will power to fend of a child's sexual advances, then high and mighty am I.

Just because I believe that the judge may have had more information to base his judgement on than the media led hysteria that you base yours on.

Lets not forget the criminal in question was correctly found guilty, but all the circumstances were taken into account for sentencing.

You're a paedo, no I'm not, yes you are, no I'm not...

Hurrah for STW.

This thread smells like hammers.

MSP - Member

Highlighting a small part of your statement doesn't change the meaning of the overall statement ernie.

Of course it doesn't ! That's the whole point ! You claimed that I had back pedaled. I did no such thing, I copied and pasted what I had previously posted and simply highlighted the relevant bit. Your back pedaling allegation is completely false.

I have no idea whether or not you are a paedophile.

Maybe in future you could just avoid confusion by just posting the relevant bits in the first place instead of also posting the irrelevant bits that you want to pretend don't matter later on.

I also have no idea whether or not you are a paedophile or a rapist or a murderer or even a reasonable person.

the irrelevant bits that you want to pretend don't matter later on.

There's no irrelevant bits that I want to pretend don't matter.

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Can you not find something better to do?

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Why is the Predator wearing fishnets?

It's a sexual predator...

Of course you will argue, of course you will get upset about this and protest- so do my kids
Good luck convincing someone you did not make it all up

I'll be honest, I'm not 100% clear on what you are saying, as is often the case most of what you write is incomprehensible. But I think, as you are the one who is making such a fuss over my 'claim', that you may in fact be one those individuals who posted on the thread claiming that being a paedophile was a terrible blight that required a greater deal of understanding before we all collectively demonise these very ill individuals, so how you can now claim that it is entirely reasonable for an adult to be wise and moral enough to fend of the sexual advances of a child is beyond me. Even the poorly adults who have been cursed with such a socially debilitating illness? It's almost like you do not know what you think and prefer instead to just antagonise people to grow your sense of smug self satisfaction.

it's a sexual predator...

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I'll be honest,

I'm not 100% clear on what you are saying

that you may in fact be one those individuals who posted on the thread

Its pretty low, even for here, to throw around shitty accusations like that based on a thread that never happened ...FFS this is really quite tragic.
Why are you doing this you are just digging a big hole of lies and jumping right in it whilst hurling some pretty distasteful allegations.

It's almost like you do not know what you think

TBh I am embarrassed for you your first post was pretty rude but to do this is frankly pitiful - in the true sense of the word
Really have a word with yourself