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I'm selling some fishing equipment on eBay. Guy offered some money for it, I'm happy to let the auction run. Email conversation went like this - start at bottom.

Dear lutza59,

How funny - if you want me too I can help you round up your toys and put them pack in your pram for you.

- teadrinker1977

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From: lutza59
To: teadrinker1977
Subject: Re: Pay for the item: lutza59 sent a message about Shimano Technium XT-B 1300 pole and some Accessories #251223788333
Sent Date: 08-Feb-13 14:25:42 GMT

Dear teadrinker1977,

Mate, to be honest, I think you're very stupid and you have the mind of a 3 year old, you continue bullshitting me over here that you're not a rip of merchant and bla bla, I don't believe those shitty lies like "I put the pole on for £0.99 because if that's what it sold for that's what I'm happy to receive", I'll never buy that shit mate, I wasn't born yesterday to be fooled by a stupid **** like you, if you say you would be happy to receive 1 pound if that is what it would be sold for instead of receiving 80 pounds for it that a big lie my friend, even my little boy wouldn't believe that. If you were an honest person you would have said fair and square from the beginning that you want more than 80 pounds for it, but instead you give me this poor bullshit like the item is for collection or clearing your shed, don't think you are really gonna sell it for something under 80, but if you do sell it for a lower price that means you really are a stupid arrogant person.

I myself wouldn't like to come over to a stupid arrogant **** like you and buy something.

- lutza59

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From: teadrinker1977
To: lutza59
Subject: Re: Pay for the item: lutza59 sent a message about Shimano Technium XT-B 1300 pole and some Accessories #251223788333
Sent Date: 08-Feb-13 13:52:13 GMT

Dear lutza59,

Well I do apologise if that sounds "kind of dodgy" to you. As you will read from my previous email I stated that I would be "suprised" if it reached £50, bearing in mind I know how many people are watching it. I'm not a rip of merchant and I speak the truth. I put the pole on for £0.99 because if that's what it sold for that's what I'm happy to receive. I don't beleive someone should pay over the odds for something. I'm not selling this to try and make a profit - I'm simply clearing out the shed of old and unused equipment.

I didn't particulary like the tone of your last email and the implication that I would do something dodgy. For this reason please do place any further bids on this item as I will refuse to sell to you. This item is for collection only and I do not want you or your poor attitutde around my house.

- teadrinker1977

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From: lutza59
To: teadrinker1977
Subject: Re: Pay for the item: lutza59 sent a message about Shimano Technium XT-B 1300 pole and some Accessories #251223788333
Sent Date: 08-Feb-13 13:21:11 GMT

Dear teadrinker1977,

Well that sounds kind of dodgy for me if you say you don't believe it will make the 50 pounds mark but you still want the auction to run and someone will end up buying a bargain, that means you either want more than 80 pounds for it or you'll just end the auction if you don't get the right price, I don't believe you will let the auction run and prefer to sell it for 50 let's say, if someone doesn't offer more, and instead refuse my 80 pounds offer.

- lutza59

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From: teadrinker1977
To: lutza59
Subject: Re: Pay for the item: lutza59 sent a message about Shimano Technium XT-B 1300 pole and some Accessories #251223788333
Sent Date: 08-Feb-13 12:33:02 GMT

Dear lutza59,

Hi

Many thanks for your interest and offer on the Pole. I think that is a generous offer but I'm going to let the auction run. Please do keep an eye on it though as I'll be surprised if it even makes the £50 mark. So whoever wins should find themself with a bargain hoepfully.

Thanks again

Tony

- teadrinker1977

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From: lutza59
To: teadrinker1977
Subject: Pay for the item: lutza59 sent a message about Shimano Technium XT-B 1300 pole and some Accessories #251223788333
Sent Date: 08-Feb-13 12:23:28 GMT

Dear teadrinker1977,

Hello,

I am willing to pay 80 pounds for the pole and accessories having in mind it is used and the spare parts are cracked.

- lutza59


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 2:51 pm
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ebayer sticking to the rules .... .

thats a rare one . whats his id so i can deal with him in future.

probably wants the protection ebay affords him.


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 2:53 pm
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Odd post. Who's supposed to be the good guy and the bad guy?


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 2:57 pm
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how much did it go for in the end?


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 2:58 pm
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I really hope it went for 99p.


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:00 pm
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I don't get it.


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:01 pm
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A: Pole for sale 0,99p.
B: I'll give you 50 quid.
A: Piss of you nutter!
🙁


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:01 pm
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I'm not sure I understand it either ?

Which one are you ?
If you're the seller why didnt you sell to him for £80 ?
(You can add a "buyitnow" and stay within the rules if you want to)


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:03 pm
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Email him back saying you'll let him have it for £90 and post his response up here.
RM.


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:03 pm
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The sport of fishing does attract a lot of idiots, folk that can't really string a sentence together etc.


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:05 pm
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And you realise you misspelt 'to' in the final email? Kinda let all the air out of the argument really....
😉


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:05 pm
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That email contains classic STW retorting 😆

Thanks for sharing.


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:07 pm
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I'm happy to let the auction run with no reserve but should you want to offer a Buy it now price please do ask as the worst I can do is say no.

Why say this then tell someone who makes an offer that you're going to let it run?
BTW it's sitting t £2.50


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:09 pm
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Which one are you ?

If I had to guess I'd say [i]teadrinker [/i]is probably [i]teadrinker1977[/i].


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:10 pm
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I'm the seller. I'm slowly learning the art of retorting from STW.

I didn't want to accept £80 from him because I don't think it's worth it. Call me mad but I just can't do it to someone.


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:10 pm
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Isn't there a rule against advertising eBay auctions outside the final 12hr period?


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:12 pm
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You're mad.

DrP


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:13 pm
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Why say this then tell someone who makes an offer that you're going to let it run?
BTW it's sitting t £2.50

It just says they can ask, it doesn't say I'm going to accept.

You're mad.

DrP

True.


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:13 pm
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If you have any questions please do ask. The pole cost me £250 and I'm happy to let the auction run with no reserve but should you want to offer a Buy it now price please do ask as the worst I can do is say no. Please bid with confidence.

You invited offers in the Ebay description and then reply in a totally different manner in the reply to the offer.

I can understand why the guys miffed at you.


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:14 pm
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If someone offer a chunk over the expected price to end a sale, its usually some sort of scam, I tend to just ignore them, not even worth replying.

Although I got tired of ebay a long time ago anyway, can't be bothered with it any more.


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:14 pm
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What's the other blokes username on here? He sounds [i]really[/i] STW 😀


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:14 pm
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tell him to sling his hook


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:20 pm
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Very odd :p I can see why the wannabe buyer is a bit confused by your attitude but no need for the abuse/accusations. Probably would have just been easier for you to reply that you're sticking to eBay's rules and letting it run rather than say you want less than someone's willing to pay (there must be a Nigerian version of eBay if that's how you want to get rid of stuff).


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:20 pm
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i listed a wacom tablet last week and somebody offered me £80 and would collect monday, i just said i was away (true) and would let the auction run. he got it for £65. i couldn't give a toss really as the MrSmith comfort fund made over £500 from 10 items i had taking up too much space in cupboards/drawers that i hadn't used in years.

life is too short to get into discussions with cretins.


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:21 pm
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If someone offer a chunk over the expected price to end a sale, its usually some sort of scam, I tend to just ignore them, not even worth replying.

This, I add a note at the bottom of all of mine saying I will not auctions early cos A) it's the rules B)nearly always ends up like the above. Almost certainly he would have kicked up a fuss. Did you have official BIN option, or a "Offer me some money nudge nudge".


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:21 pm
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What an odd situation.

Fair play for sticking to the rules, but ebay fail on the part of the bidder. If you want to pay £80 for it then bid £80 - that's the whole point of an auction.


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:21 pm
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So would you accept a BIN offer for less than £50 as that would mean you didn't think you were ripping somebody off?


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:24 pm
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Doffs cap at Patriotpro...however the OP is carping on a bit about a rod he thinks he will get atrout £50 for.Mind you it is the magic of Ebay, I bet he is perched on the end of his sofa,waiting to net a buyer.


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:24 pm
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Fair play for sticking to the rules, but ebay fail on the part of the bidder. If you want to pay £80 for it then bid £80 - that's the whole point of an auction.

No not really, the whole point of an auction is to bid in stages hoping it doesn't reach or go beyond what your willing to pay.


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:26 pm
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That email contains classic STW retorting

Yes!

The influence of this place is astounding.


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:28 pm
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Having a go at some Pikey because he wants to float the idea of an £80 BIN bid is sinking to new depths.


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:30 pm
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No not really, the whole point of an auction is to bid in stages hoping it doesn't reach or go beyond what your willing to pay.

Not ebay. It's effectively a sealed bid auction, or it's meant to be.


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:31 pm
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Fisherman in, being a bit of a childish fool shocker... 😉


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:32 pm
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Yeah but you can see the bids going up and decide to top up or stop.


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:33 pm
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meh! why was my posted deleted?


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:33 pm
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Can you lot stop carping on about this now please


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:36 pm
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Folk are weird.

I sell a bit of music on the side. I accepted a lower than i had advertised offer for a couple of records.
Yesterday the buyer contacted me to say he received them ok, MINT condition as described, quite happy, BUT (here we go i thought) he thought one was only WORTH £8, not the £10 HE offered and paid me!!
Bonkers.


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:36 pm
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No not really, the whole point of an auction is to bid in stages hoping it doesn't reach or go beyond what your willing to pay.

You don't need to bid in stages on eBay though.

If he bids £80 manually, and nobody else bids against him, he will only pay 99p to win it.


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:38 pm
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Can you lot stop carping on about this now please

It's giving me a haddock.


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:41 pm
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I don't get why he didnt plaice a bid, just for the halibut.


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:42 pm
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So would you accept a BIN offer for less than £50 as that would mean you didn't think you were ripping somebody off?

As fishy as it sounds yes.


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:42 pm
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You should have taken the bait and accepted his offer.

Either that or invited him round to batter him.


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:43 pm
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Tell him to sling his hook.......... oh wait, he can't can't 🙁


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:44 pm
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[i]It's giving me a haddock. [/i]

you're too tench.


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:45 pm
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For Cod's sake!! Is this going to be another one of those crappy pun threads?


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:46 pm
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they are odd sometimes, just ignore them, I had to work hard not to raise to the bait on this exchange, (start at the end and work up)

Dear Fitnessischeating

il not bother thanks with a snotty reply like that il keep looking
small tip
(manners cast nothing)
- dra...

Dear dra...

There is no buy it now price the auction will run in full

Payment will be expected as cash on collection, we are not looking for a trade
- Fitnessischeating

Dear Fitnessischeating

Hi mate
do you have a bin prie?
or would u wanna do a deal on my kenwood hifi?
thanks
scott
- dra.....


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:47 pm
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Take a cautious approach perchance?
RM.


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:47 pm
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[i]For Cod's sake!! Is this going to be another one of those crappy pun threads? [/i]

don't get your feathers ruffled, calm down and stay on your perch.


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:47 pm
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Give it a rest, for Christ's hake.


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:49 pm
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Why would someone offer waaay over the odds on something that is prob not going to reach that value in the auction?
1) The item is rare and valuable and he's still getting it at a steal for £80
OR
2) He's as dodgy as a sheep in suspenders.


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:50 pm
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2) He's as dodgy as a sheep in suspenders.

This one, I should also mention he joined eBay 3/2/13 and had zero feedback.


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 3:54 pm
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2) He's as dodgy as a sheep in suspenders.

How would it be dodgy if he came to your house and paid cash on collection?

Then you could just end the auction after the item was collected.

Am I missing something (other than the paranoia that he knows where you live)


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 4:05 pm
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Obviously fishing for trouble.


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 4:05 pm
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"This one, I should also mention he joined eBay 3/2/13 and had zero feedback. "

Well there's your BASSic problem


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 4:06 pm
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[i]Obviously fishing for trouble. [/i]

Typical Pisces.


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 4:07 pm
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Teadrinker might have landed a good deal, but I agree that the bidder was probably spinning a line. OP's made a rod for his own back by fishing for comments on here though.


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 4:32 pm
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Ask him nicely to bid £80, then when he wins and comes to collect, wee in his waders.


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 4:45 pm
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How would it be dodgy if he came to your house and paid cash on collection?

... with a couple of burly mates.


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 4:50 pm
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Either way, I'm having a whale of a time reading this thread


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 4:56 pm
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I've definitely haddock enough of these fish puns now.


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 4:59 pm
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Looks like someone's angling for a fight, you'd betta jack it in or mako shark exit!!


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 5:06 pm
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Either way, I'm having a whale of a time reading this thread

That's a bloody mammal. 😛


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 6:00 pm
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debating whether to buy it for £50 and sell it to the other guy for £70 everyones a winner


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 6:17 pm
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I don't remember the details but i had a mate nearly get scammed on a car.

Its something like you accept a good BIN offer on a collect item. They then say that they can't collect in person as they are (abroad on an oil rig etc.)

So they offer to send a courier and pay you through a bank transfer. Some one then collects the car and then suddenly it all goes belly up

either they claim that they never recieved the goods and they know nothing about the courier or the money goes in and then back out of your account

Soyry can't remember the full scam

or is it this

Here's the scam:

1. The buyer pays for the item via Paypal and arranges to collect the item in person - say for example it's a TV sold for £500 - but once he has taken possession of the TV he files an item not received complaint with Paypal.

2. You have no proof to show Paypal that the buyer received the item because it was collected in person! The "buyer" now has your TV and Paypal refund him the £500 from your account.

So, why in the name of god don't Ebay warn people about this scam and allow sellers to deny buyers the Paypal payment option for collect-in-person local pick ups?

from here

http://community.ebay.co.uk/question/Trust-Safety/Collect-Person-Pay/2000044794

That last one makes sense


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 6:32 pm
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You'd be safe if he paid with PayPal gift.


 
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Either way, I'm having a whale of a time reading this thread

That's a bloody mammal.


It's still aquatic though, does it count? I thought I might be herring from someone about that.

Trying to work out how to shoehorn Aholehole into a pun, but I may have to bass.


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 6:40 pm
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I don't blame the OP for not wanting the buyer around his plaice. If he was the sole occupant it could have turned bad, buyer may have been big with loads of mussels and started whale-ing on him.


 
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debating whether to buy it for £50 and sell it to the other guy for £70 everyones a winner

We have a shark.


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 6:45 pm
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I sell plenty of stuff on ebay and usually just put it on an auction and see what it goes for.
Nearly very item gets 'What your buy it now price mate' question. There a lot of buyers out there who either can't wait a couple of days for the auction to end, or just don't grasp the idea of how an auction works. 😕


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 6:46 pm
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Turtle nightmare


 
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This is all a bit piscatorial


 
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Turtle nightmare


Mark Lawrenson!


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 7:00 pm
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I've been trawling through this thread and before it goes overboard, the OP gets offered 80 squid and he doesn't even mullet over! I think that is quite shellfish. Although as the buyer is new to eBay, that could indicate that he is up to somefin fishy and if you did shell it to him, you really could get stuck between a rock and a hard plaice.


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 7:48 pm
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I don't nkow why the OP was so koi about naming his BIN price in the first place. If he had accepted the offer, he would have made an immediate profit to the tuna 80 quid!


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 8:33 pm
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The was no BIN option on the auction.
Rules state not to accept offers outside of e-bay.


 
Posted : 08/02/2013 8:41 pm
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Posted : 08/02/2013 8:48 pm
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STW members you are awesome. I knew if posted on here the fishy puns would come out in force. I just had to supply the bait and then reel you all in 😀


 
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I'm impressed with the childishness of the want to be buyer. If all fishermen are like that maybe it's the sport for me, it's even more childish than mountain biking.

Fair play on the OP for sticking to the rules. I did that's once. Auctioned a bike and got £122 but bloke who won it offered £165 a few days earlier if I ended early. I only expected £100 so we were both happy. Although, in hindsight I would have been even more happy with £165.

Sorry no fish jokes, but if you are going into business selling fishing tackle, I' start off as a small scale operation.


 
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I knew if posted on here the fishy puns would come out in force. I just had to supply the bait and then reel you all in

So you were doing it on porpoise?


 
Posted : 10/02/2013 8:41 am
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Can we all send him a message on ebay at the same time offering him a rod for £80 to stick up his arse?

So funny made me and my girlfriend laugh this morning as we just had dealings with some other anal prat yesterday. Good to see it doesn't just happen to us.

Hope you made a fair bit on your fishing equipment.


 
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