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Ebay fees? Daylight robbery? Listed on 80% off weekend too.

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Just sold a bike on there for £450 BIN and they've just taken £60 off of me for the privilege.

I only ever list things on the alleged 80% off final valuations weekend too so I'm struggling to work out where they get that figure from?

Do you lose the offer when it's automatically relisted after a month?  So you need to end your month long BIN listings on an offer weekend and relist to qualify for the offer again?

I could have punted it out on gumtree for £400 and still been better off.  Talk about a false economy?  Obviously, you do have to deal with time wasters/no shows etc, on there but £60 feels like extortion.   10%, I could have swallowed..

All this talk of the taxman jumping on private sellers too.  I struggle to see how anyone manages to make a profit on there TBH...


 
Posted : 21/04/2024 7:59 pm
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Yep, it's in the t+c's, original listing duration only. If you contact them they have the discretion to make a "one off" adjustment.


 
Posted : 21/04/2024 8:02 pm
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Do you lose the offer when it’s automatically relisted after a month?

Yes, you do, they make that quite clear

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Posted : 21/04/2024 8:03 pm
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Yup, as above - first listing period only. Also be aware it doesn't apply to listings for multiples of an item.


 
Posted : 21/04/2024 8:14 pm
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Is eBay there to make a profit? I mean surely it’s just there for people to get rid of stuff they don’t want, which hopefully someone else still sees a value in?


 
Posted : 21/04/2024 8:26 pm
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I've just sold a bike for £750 and have had an email from eBay saying they'll be taking near enough £100 off me for it. Again, I thought I'd started it on a 'fee free' weekend, but obviously not.


 
Posted : 21/04/2024 8:38 pm
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Thanks for the heads up regarding the auto relist situation.   Hadn't really given it much thought TBH and hadn't read the Ts & Cs..

I think the offer is on this weekend so I need to kill any old listings and go again?

I did think that charge seemed a bit excessive but it makes a lot more sense now. Lesson learnt and all that....


 
Posted : 21/04/2024 8:52 pm
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Maybe I should uncheck the auto relist option to avoid this happening again?  Assuming you can still do that, that is?


 
Posted : 21/04/2024 8:57 pm
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Yep, first listing only.

I fell foul of that last year as I was on holiday when the listing ended and it automatically relisted and then sold.

I didn't realise and got charged a fortune.

I asked eBay to look at it but they (rightly) said it was only for the first listing.

Chucked my toys out the pram and cancelled my eBay account after 20 years using it.

Don't miss it one bit.


 
Posted : 21/04/2024 9:25 pm
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Don't just cancel the listing then repost. You can choose 'sell another like this' then it copies all the details into a new listing, then delete the old one. Saves making a whole new ad.

The fees are high but you do get a better final sale price and minimal hassle.


 
Posted : 21/04/2024 9:39 pm
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Don’t just cancel the listing then repost. You can choose ‘sell another like this’ then it copies all the details into a new listing, then delete the old one. Saves making a whole new ad.

Just ending the listing and clicking the relist button under "unsold items" works for me.


 
Posted : 21/04/2024 10:13 pm
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I think the offer is on this weekend so I need to kill any old listings and go again?

Make sure you opt into the offer first.


 
Posted : 21/04/2024 10:14 pm
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I only sell when 80% off fees as that changes things from quite pricey to really good value for money given the ready they have.

I think they are being quite transparent with their fees in fairness.


 
Posted : 22/04/2024 12:38 pm
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Chucked my toys out the pram and cancelled my eBay account after 20 years using it.

Don’t miss it one bit.

I was ready to do this last week, sold an item. Buyer returned as a side socket on a cable tester was faulty. Never used the side so told him to return it.

Had "item out today for delivery" for over a week, then got a message stating buyer had supplied information showing the item had been delivered, and I had to pay £407. Was expecting to repay but wanted the tester back.

Called Ebay ready for a fight, agent thanked me for my 21 years of being on ebay. Told them the issue, they checked and confirmed the item was still out for delivery. Reversed the decision and refunded the £407.

But what I did find was that when a buyer returns your item it is not cover to the sale value. I tired to do a royal mail claim  and I put the listing value in the claim form I had a pop up screen saying max coverage is £100.


 
Posted : 22/04/2024 12:59 pm
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I've been on a completely fee-free period on ebay - from February until today. I guess it's seller specific and usually I've had the 80% offers but this it was completely fee free, even with stuff that gone unsold then relisted automatically a few times before eventually selling.

Consequently I've been going hog wild selling old stuff, like literally walking around the house, shed and garage looking for things to flog.

Now the offer has ended for me, back to selling virtually nothing on ebay.


 
Posted : 22/04/2024 1:04 pm
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I’ve been on a completely fee-free period on ebay

Same. No listing or FV fees on all items. Expired on 15th April but listings created during the period are valid for first listing period (eg 15th May for BIN items). Bizarre!


 
Posted : 22/04/2024 1:18 pm
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Also be aware that if you list with BIN on the 80% off fees offer and then change the BIN price it cancels the offer. Just had this but got onto them on chat and they refunded the difference


 
Posted : 22/04/2024 1:19 pm
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I haven't had an 80% off fees for ages. Stopped selling anything over about £20 on ebay now!


 
Posted : 22/04/2024 1:28 pm
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It’s now free to sell pre-owned clothes! | eBay.co.uk

clearly competing against vinted,

i sold an old hub for first time in a while, ebay fees are notorious without the discounts


 
Posted : 22/04/2024 1:37 pm
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Glad I read this! I've just cancelled my auto relisted item! Sneaky so and so's.


 
Posted : 22/04/2024 1:38 pm
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Also had the fee free 6 week deal. Made £1100 with a few items still in their 30 day bin period.
Only sell stuff I don’t need so happy to build it up until I get some kind of deal. Nobody likes paying the fees but it gets the stuff in front of a wide audience and handles the payment process. If you think eBay is bad, you should look at what traditional auction houses charge. They hit the buyer and seller.


 
Posted : 22/04/2024 1:48 pm
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I can't see an option in the Android app... Or they've purposely made it difficult to locate!?!?


 
Posted : 22/04/2024 1:59 pm
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"Also be aware that if you list with BIN on the 80% off fees offer and then change the BIN price it cancels the offer. Just had this but got onto them on chat and they refunded the difference" is this a new thing, never noticed that before, but not been on much in the last few years


 
Posted : 22/04/2024 2:11 pm
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I haven’t had an 80% off fees for ages. Stopped selling anything over about £20 on ebay now!

Same here, over a year now. I complained and was told it was random, but if that was the case I would have had one by now. Must be sub-random. Seems to be an issue for a number of users.


 
Posted : 22/04/2024 2:14 pm
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Business in wanting to make profit shocker!

Always read what the fees are.


 
Posted : 22/04/2024 2:15 pm
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"If you think eBay is bad, you should look at what traditional auction houses charge. They hit the buyer and seller."

+1 - sold a drawing by a known artist for nearly £5k recently & the fees really stung but to be fair I doubt eBay would have done the homework to verify it as being an original 🤔


 
Posted : 22/04/2024 2:20 pm
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I have a couple of items that no one would want but keep them in my unsold and just keep relisting them as it helps in getting the 80% offers.

I think Ebay monitors if you sell stuff and so you have a better chance of offers if you are seen as a regular seller.


 
Posted : 22/04/2024 2:46 pm
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I haven’t had an 80% off fees for ages. Stopped selling anything over about £20 on ebay now!

Same here, no offers since last summer, got a bunch of stuff sitting here waiting to be sold.  No way I'm paying full whack!


 
Posted : 22/04/2024 2:56 pm
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Same here, no offers since last summer, got a bunch of stuff sitting here waiting to be sold.  No way I’m paying full whack!

List the cheapest thing, sell it and pay a small fee. I bet you'll suddenly find yourself with the reduced fee offer. When I have a backlog of stuff to sell I'm often searching for prices using the sold for/ completed sale filter. I wonder if that triggers inclusion in offers?


 
Posted : 22/04/2024 3:03 pm
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I made the mistake of using ebay for the first time in years.  Didn't realise its changed its policy to the buyer can just say they want their money back and you then have to refund and cover the return postage.  I mean wtf.  Sold a garmin 800 with photos, saying good condition for age, got it returned saying it had scratches on the screen, which it does have and they are clearly visible in the photos, also that it didn't have a HRM, which I was really clear it was just the headset.

To be fair it did actually turn up, and from what I can tell the 'buyer' is actually a trade guy that buys up units cheap to sell them on for a profit and obviously thought there wasn't enough in it.

That and with all the scams on facebook I have, sad to say, just been chucking stuff away that I would have sold for a few quids in past years, that or it gets put in the loft and forgotten about


 
Posted : 22/04/2024 3:07 pm
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List the cheapest thing, sell it and pay a small fee. I bet you’ll suddenly find yourself with the reduced fee offer.

Nope. I've sold a few things over the last few months and nothing. I needed stuff gone so sucked up the fees but nothing. I've googled it and theres stuff out there about how they are concentrating on business sellers rather than small private sellers nowadays and not giving away the offers they used to.


 
Posted : 22/04/2024 3:28 pm
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@DT78 did you have the "returns not accepted" option turned on on the listing? (basically an opt out of the distance selling regs for private sellers)

If you did have that set you should also have been able to argue your case before you accepted the return request - which it sounds like you would have had a good case for rejecting.


 
Posted : 22/04/2024 3:29 pm
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Doesn't always work though.  I bought some Patagonia shorts that, when they arrived, were def not Patagonia - zero issues with returning them despite "returns not accepted".


 
Posted : 22/04/2024 4:09 pm
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I don't think the returns not accepted makes any difference, its ebays buyer guarantee thing.

Anyway, whilst a return is a pain the butt I wouldn't necessarily mind, it was the fact I also had to pay for the return postage, and if I recall correctly ebay kept the selling fees, so I effectively was out of pocket £15 or so on a £40 sale.

So I have not used ebay, other than to buy from merchants, since.  I can't see it lasting much longer for private auctions with those sorts of practises


 
Posted : 22/04/2024 4:13 pm
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Doesn’t always work though.  I bought some Patagonia shorts that, when they arrived, were def not Patagonia – zero issues with returning them despite “returns not accepted”.

The option specifically excludes items not as described. It's for not accepting returns when people have changed their minds, bought the wrong size etc. (which a business is obliged to but a private seller is not).

I don’t think the returns not accepted makes any difference, its ebays buyer guarantee thing.

@DT78 as above, the buyer has to raise a return request which you don't have to accept - if you think the claim is not valid you can contest it.


 
Posted : 22/04/2024 5:13 pm
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I think its gone over complex, over opaque, and deliberately so to confuse you/us and squeeze more money out of us.  The T&C's issue is there, but the numbers of people who get caught out signify it could be clearer. Listing on Vinted compared to eBay is a breeze.


 
Posted : 22/04/2024 5:18 pm
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If it’s returned and refunded in full or in part, you get your fees back.  Always.


 
Posted : 22/04/2024 6:12 pm
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I'm guessing most of us on here are selling bikes and bike bits, so probably similar buyers for a lot of stuff. I've got a blocked list of quite a few built up over the years, people who bid and then don't pay, people who can't read descriptions, etc, etc.

Could we all share our blocked lists on here and cut down on the number of idiots we might have to contend with by also blocking those who have been a pain to others?


 
Posted : 22/04/2024 7:08 pm

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