[Closed] Durdle Door after the weekend

Stupid is going to do stupid things.

I am relatively local and was walking about 5 miles away from DD on Sunday. The car parks we visited were very quiet and we passed about 10 people during an 8 mile walk.

I have never see DD as busy as in the photos, even on a sunny bank holiday. I was bit stunned by the photos of all the people, the litter after was sadly expected once I had seen the photos 🙁

Incidentally, the local KFC opened two weekends ago and within 24 hours there was KFC wrappers on the verge of a local country lane about 7 miles from the KFC. I wish them would print number plates on the takeaway wrappers so fines could be issued.

They're expressing their post EU sovereignty by exercising their ancient right to drive hundreds of miles to dump rubbish on a British beach. It's what they voted for...

. I wish them would print number plates on the takeaway wrappers so fines could be issued

That is a really good idea!!

Littering on the beach or anywhere else makes my blood boil.

These people went to enjoy the beauty of durdle door and then leave it like a landfill site.

I'm not up for banning things in general, but I'd make an exception for takeaways, purely for the litter aspect.

People have no imagination. Round here there are probably two or three spots they all go to, but if you're prepared to walk 10 minutes from the road, you get the place to yourself.

Went past Stainforth Force (one of the three) this weekend, piles of shite everywhere, people parked on the double yellows up the lane. Tossers.

. I wish them would print number plates on the takeaway wrappers so fines could be issued

That is a really good idea!!

Littering on the beach or anywhere else makes my blood boil.

These people went to enjoy the beauty of durdle door and then leave it like a landfill site.

Not my idea, but I thought the same when I heard it. I even started investigating the tech to do it (ANPR linked to a later printer that the takeaway could press against the carton/box/cup). With the right pitch it could even be a candidate for clever Push/Pull selling - Get the government to introduce legislation while putting pressure on the key takeaway chains....

littering is just a complete mystery to me. I genuinely don't understand the mentality of thinking that is okay. You assume that if someone has travelled to a nice place it is because they appreciate nice places. So why don't they want to keep it nice?

I wish them would print number plates on the takeaway wrappers so fines could be issued.

Great idea!

Stuff like this really boils my ****.

What on earth makes someone think that they can go somewhere, anywhere, and drop litter and expect someone else to clear up their mess afterwards.

Leave nothing but footprints and take nothing but photographs.

This stuff really, really, really boils my piss. Similar here (local to me, and not the only place like this to suffer a similar fate over the past week):

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-52882998

I'm as hand-wringingly liberal as the next hand-wringing liberal, and know that the causes of many crimes are deep-rooted in economics, demographics, education and opportunity, but then stuff like this happens and you realise that some people are just mindless, selfish twunts, for whom I would willingly bring back the birch.

I wish them would print number plates on the takeaway wrappers so fines could be issued

Yeah I had the same idea many years ago too - they use ANPR effectively to manage the very same private car parks where many of these takeaways are sited.

Yeah I want to go somewhere nice but have no interest in doing the tiniest bit of work to keep that place nice is an odd mindset.

What on earth makes someone think that they can go somewhere, anywhere, and drop litter and expect someone else to clear up their mess afterwards.

Not wishing to stereotype (but I will) but on the news about the massive overcrowding in the Dales at the weekend they interviewed a fat, pasty white guy with tribal tattoos from Keighley who managed to string a few unintelligible words together about being allowed to be there. Its the predictability of stupidity.

Scumbags, that's all I can say.

Scumbags gonna do scumbag things.

Similar (but not as bad thankfully) in the East Mids at any beauty spot that can be waddled to from a carpark in a few minutes.

I have come to the conclusion that out of town retail and pubs showing the football have been very effective at keeping idiots out of the countryside.  I look forward to them all reopening...

Like everyone on here it makes me sad/mad that as a nation we are probably the worst for littering (fully expect someone to show me otherwise)
I just don't get it what sort of utter Flute thinks its OK to just lob your rubbish into the landscape?
I've taken great pleasure in filming someone about to fly tip and laughed at their swearing at me while I film them having already taken pictures and emailed them to home.
I think there should be the modern equivalent of the stocks for litterers where we can go and throw rubbish at them just to show how horrible it is.

It's a scenic day out for the hard of thinking. I love a honeypot as much as the next man but cannot for the life of me imagine what they're thinking when they decide where to drive to in the midst of a socially distancing pandemic. Padley Gorge in the Peak District was rammed yesterday with dozens of cars ticketed for poor parking when apparently there was available legal parking. It's quite easy to find somewhere nice away from others, but we probably rely on these idiots so we can. I'm hoping the weather next week is cooler, because I'm planning a few day trips to some nice places that attract the beer and barbecue brigade as soon as the temperature rises.

Formby beach any nice day in summer looks like a recycling centre. The folk who use it are pigs.

And that's before you get into the loud music and ganj smoke...

In another twist in a similar vein;

The local country park has no bins, but lots of signs saying why (vermin, smell, cost of upkeep etc). The signs ask people to take their litter home with them. I have heard two people say "if they cant be bothered to provide us with bins I cant be bothered to take it away with me" 🙁

Same here in the Lakes. Rubbish left all over the place after the weekend. I found a paper bag of takeaway leftovers ten feet from an empty bin...

It's rather a shame that they sent in a rescue helicopter, surely they could have spared a gunship

I have heard two people say “if they cant be bothered to provide us with bins I cant be bothered to take it away with me”

This mentality is absurd, if you can carry it in, you can carry it out surely.

Littering is inexcusable.

Its all over, Rivington was trashed and had multiple fires.

Theres reports of people shiting in peoples gardens.

I've said car reg on takeaways and ban any plastic containers so at least it rots down.

I just dont know what is wrong with people...

Happened in Scotland too - thousands of people converged on Loch Lomond area. Litter and pollution everywhere, and given the lack of open public toilets, piss and shit, according to the news last night.

Wasn't there a thread recently asking if people felt proud to be British?

All this scummy, lowest of the low behaviour doesn't encourage a positive answer.

Instead of going to the trouble of laser printing number plates on wrappers or boxes at a drive through, how about a hopper which just drops the unwrapped food straight through the sun roof or fires it at the drivers window? The person who orders picks 1. or 2. when placing the order and it’s up to them to open said entry point and catch the incoming food.

Edit. On a more serious note, humanity depresses me.

Since consumerist, suburbanist and car-culture took root in the 1950s-70s it’s been a growing NGAS trend in the UK. It won’t change in our lifetimes so best to just do your best to buck the trend but don’t let it get you down. We have built an arrogant, entitled, disconnected, uneducated, value-less and scummy culture. End of.

Big moor fire on dovestones now, reportedly from disposable Barbie. Two spots around hebden bridge, lumb falls and gadding's have been rammed for the last week....150 parking fines were issued below gadding's over the weekend. Piles of Barbie debris and crap everywhere. Sooner theme parks open the better.

My wife has just shown me a similar picture from a village close to us which has the river Avon flowing through. Bags and bags of rubbish and boxes of gas canisters.

At the weekend they had to shut the road through and bring in police horses to control the crowds and trouble flare ups

I was out in the hills in and around Mossley (Manchester) with a mate on the bikes, and just about every 'view point' folk had been there with Nox - bottles all over the shop.

Rule No 1:

(This right now includes sharing green spaces/swimming spots on social media)

Sod the birch. It should be the death penalty. Anyone deliberately throwing away litter basically has foregone their rights to inhabit the same planet as the rest of society. OK, a bit harsh maybe. What about a system like when we used to send criminals to Australia? All we we need do is to open a colony on Mars and send litterers there to colonise it.

I understand why people want to get out and enjoy the nice weather even though I personally prefer to avoid the crowds. But I’m utterly baffled as to why so many people are going round trashing the countryside and coasts with their rubbish, their shit and piss. It’s the sheer scale of it that’s so shocking.

Dorset, like most of the South West has very low deaths caused by and incidences of Corona virus. What hope now when the scumbag hordes from London and the Midlands decent on our beaches acting like the vermin they are and leaving their filth behind. Bournemouth beach had a pungent greasy slick close to the shore all weekend. Cafe's open, toilets closed. OK lets shit in the sea (and in peoples gardens, behind the beach huts etc)

This simple message now appears on most local Facebook pages (including the cycling ones)

#dorsetisclosed #gohomeandstayhome #buggeroff

What about a system like when we used to send criminals to Australia? All we we need do is to open a colony on Mars and send litterers there to colonise it.

Why bother with Mars? Just send them to the old colony and let Trump deal with them. They'll fit right in.

@Eskay - Lacock, or just outside Bath?
Posted this on the thread about little silver cylinders, but it’s just as appropriate here:

This weekend, all over the Lake District, in beautiful scenery, along with beer bottles, bbqs, deck chairs, soiled nappies. I’ve never seen it this bad, arseholes.

And lots of other places as well. In Lacock by the river a farmer had to remove his herd of cows from their field after hordes of filthy scumbags descended on the riverbank and left masses of crap, I mean that literally, N2O canisters, cans, bottles, bags, just masses of stuff, leaving it all for locals to clear up their shit. One cow suffered cuts to its leg from discarded trash, and the villagers are seething about it, and rightly so.
There are other locations locally as well, a weir outside of Bath has been closed off for exactly the same reason, loads of trash and human excrement that the landowners have to clear up.
Filthy imbeciles.

To be fair to the Durdle Door visitors, there's really nowhere else on that coast where you're virtually guaranteed to see some pissed-up arsehole either tombstone themselves straight into ICU or just wobble off one of the narrow paths and down a drop with the same outcome

... and burn off half your skin area plus catch a potentially fatal disease while you're there

Magic

. You assume that if someone has travelled to a nice place it is because they appreciate nice places. So why don’t they want to keep it nice?

Trouble is, it's always cleared up for them like it's a service provided. Therefore they don't have to take it home. In fact, they're giving someone a job... 🙄

Every time they arrive back at these places they're all cleared up again. I wonder what would happen if everything was left?.I mean, it would be absolutely disgusting but maybe, just maybe, the terminal morons might see the connection. 😡

i'm reminded of this story from a couple of years ago:

......"One of the 5,000 backpackers who trashed a Melbourne beach in a massive Christmas Day party says the outrage it prompted is over the top.

'It's a bad figure but nothing compared to how much tourists bring into Australia, they all pay tax and spend all their money here,' he said.

not sure if link will work hopefully STW maintaining ban on Daily Mail linking but the above sums up a lot of peoples attitudes

https://www.****/news/article-5217065/Backpacker-says-St-Kilda-beach-party-outrage-top.html
note Daily Mail journalist can't spell revelry

Selfish pricks who don’t even know what rule number one is 😕

Take solace in the fact that all those scumbags will soon be back trugging around shopping centres or popping up the bar in the local flat roofed pub or laid out on the sofa watching Soccer Saturday.

You assume that if someone has travelled to a nice place it is because they appreciate nice places. So why don’t they want to keep it nice?

It's also a way of 'sticking it to the man' while building the bond within your pack through shared enterprise. Is a way of exercising control over spaces (see graffiti for teens or stamping on bugs for small children). It's also not about nature - it's about socialising.

We used to clear up Loch Tay once a year. DofE residential kids and canoes. We could fill a large skip in three days. And Loch Tay is quieter than most for this behaviour.

Every time they arrive back at these places they’re all cleared up again. I wonder what would happen if everything was left?.I mean, it would be absolutely disgusting but maybe, just maybe, the terminal morons might see the connection. 😡

It was my job once upon a long ago to be publicity officer for a National conservation Charity. Main workload = to identify, organise, enlist/engage volunteers while publicising clean-ups, tree-planting and ongoing management of (both old and newly-designated) nature-reserves around Birmingham/Wolves area.

General local’s attitude was ‘either YOU clean it up or else concrete it over’.

One example was a wooded brook running through a housing estate. It was rank with mattresses, shopping carts, fagends, cans, decade of plastic bags etc

They (residents) never really made the ‘connection‘ that it was either them and/or their kids, and/or their immediate neighbours dumping and littering. Utter denial and/or couldn’t GAS. I organised a public meeting in local hall and about 60+ residents attended iirc. The only ‘connection‘ that the vast majority of them could make was that we as a conservation charity were bloody ‘do-gooders‘.

What they were motivated by was their simmering resentment as they wrongly assumed we were trying to get them to ‘work for nothing’.

In their tiny minds they were certain that we should be the only ones doing the cleaning up.

We (the Charity) were offering tools, logistics, saplings, timber, external volunteers, our own expertise and our own field-staff, pickers, planters, coppicers, hedgelayers, step-building, minibus, refreshment, etc. All for free.

And that was the ‘good old days’. Now, 30 years on...I give up with human except for the shrinking minority who GAS. Always encouraging to read people here who roll sleeves up, but as someone said - we’re cleaning up after them so they can have a fresh site to enjoy and re-litter tomorrow. They ‘win’.

I cycled to work in the Bristol to Bath cycle track this morning (I have been avoiding it but with rain in the air I chanced it today). There was an army of volunteer litter pickers along the track and surrounding fields in Saltford. There were around 20nbags already collected.

So bloody selfish of people to leave places like this and massive thanks to the volunteers who try to keep places looking good.

Wasn’t there a thread recently asking if people felt proud to be British?

All this scummy, lowest of the low behaviour doesn’t encourage a positive answer.

Proud to be British? I can't say that at any point in the 40 years I've been on this planet I've been proud to be British and seeing the mindless cretins packed into various beauty spots around the country at the weekend like lemmings makes me despise many of its inhabitants even more.

I like the Durdle Door gunship idea. Lock down the roads in and out, block phone signals in the area and just blitz the beach with a few Apaches. Not quite ethnic cleansing but its clearing out the gene pool of a few thousand stupid people.

I was treated to the delightful sight at the weekend of a woman squatting in full view next to her camper van in a Dales layby relieving herself as I rode by. Utter scumbaggery. Yesterday morning I came across some VW van-life tool parked up about a mile from the road on a bridleway. Luckily the farmer is a fairly argumentative 'get orf my land' type, so hopefully he got more than he bargained for.

The boundaries of acceptable behaviour seem to have shifted during lockdown. Hopefully they will improve.

It is very easy to be judgemental but I think we need to be a little more understanding at the moment. Those of us that do enjoy the countryside will know how to behave, to carry out what we carry in, to avoid busy places, but a lot of these people would normally be at a football match, down the pub, in the cinema, going shopping, etc, and now they can't. Any anger should be focussed on the government and their mishandling of the pandemeic IMO, not the people who are following government guidence, doing something new and not knowing how to behave responsibly.

TBH, most people, townies or otherwise, have somehow managed to grasp the idea that chucking dirty nappies over your shoulder is not totally OK, whether you're in the countryside or walking down your street.

a lot of these people would normally be at a football match, down the pub, in the cinema, going shopping, etc, and now they can’t.

I don't mind that they've turned up in massive numbers to infect each other.

It's the shitting in their own nest, or in this case someone else's nest, that boils the piss.

They're breaking rule #1 of life, the one about not being a dick.

It’s rather a shame that they sent in a rescue helicopter, surely they could have spared a gunship

Why bother doesn’t the place back onto the tank range?

Nickjb- as much as the government have mishandled the whole Covid situation, you’re making excuses for the morons who are trashing the countryside. Or were you being tongue in cheek?
I’m sure people who generally go to football matches, shopping centres, cinemas etc rather than the countryside understands that it’s not appropriate to leave litter, take a shit in public, and leave dirty nappies lying around whether you’re at the shops or on the beach? They’re just selfish, thoughtless bell ends.

The excuse being used a lot at the moment is that the toilets and "facilities" are all closed so "where do they expect us to go to the toilet?"

Answer - the verges and gardens.

That's their justification for it. I'm sure when they are open again, the justification will change. Same in the Peaks. During lockdown, it was rare to see any litter, mostly because there were no fast food outlets open and very few people were driving anywhere.

With the relaxation, people have started driving out to beauty spots (picking up a MaccyD and a Costa en route), parking up, having the BBQ and then just emptying the car of all their random shit.

The road up through Goyt Valley has been closed for about 4 months for repair work (part of the road got washed away in the floods). It was amazing to cycle up, no litter, no visual intrusion of cars. It's open again now and within a week there was litter in all the car parks, emptied ashtrays, people driving like total ****nuggets up through the valley. Dreadful.

take a shit in public

I'm not excusing it, but public toilet reopening hasn't happened at the same rate of informal lockdown easing.

I am guessing the average person on a day trip to the beach isn't prepared for packing their turds home in a Ziploc bag.

But as many have pointed out, these are actually fairly standard scenes. Bournemouth beach is an absolute shit tip by the end of any busy day, lockdown or not.

But as many have pointed out, these are actually fairly standard scenes.

Every sunny day in summer Parkers Piece in Cambridge is left strewn with tons of garbage, mainly by foreign language students enjoying the sun, been like that for years.

There's also the herd mentality of it all, they see one person littering/shitting/not picking up dog poo, and it becomes a rationale for their own actions.

I was cycling across Woodbury Common yesterday, and at one end of a carpark there was a pile of perhaps 10-15 dog-poo bags, different colours, sizes, etc, so obviously different dog owners.
At the other end of the carpark there are bright red dog-poo bins!
I assume people walk from the common into the carpark, see the pile and add their own to it, ignoring the ****ing obvious bins in the process. Arseholes.

It is very easy to be judgemental but I think we need to be a little more understanding at the moment. Those of us that do enjoy the countryside will know how to behave, to carry out what we carry in, to avoid busy places, but a lot of these people would normally be at a football match, down the pub, in the cinema, going shopping, etc, and now they can’t. Any anger should be focussed on the government and their mishandling of the pandemeic IMO, not the people who are following government guidence, doing something new and not knowing how to behave responsibly

Bollocks.

Just bollocks

People need to take responsibility for their actions. I've never been so fundamentally upset at the state of the local country side.

The covid situation hasn't been handled well but that's a different issue to the fact a minority but still a large number of people quite frankly dont give a shit about others or the environment.

It's a systematic failure somewhere, that's such a global problem that I don't know how you'd even start to fix it

Any anger should be focussed on the government and their mishandling of the pandemeic IMO

People need to take start taking responsibility for their own actions. Why is it always someone elses fault?

People need to take start taking responsibility for their own actions. Why is it always someone elses fault?

And the irony is that the 'someone else's fault' culture is now reflected in our politicians, who refuse to take responsibility for anything at all.

Agree totally with the two comments above. Utter crap trying to push this behaviour onto the governments handling of the pandemic. Its not the governments fault these brainless fools are going into the countryside where there are already hundreds of like-minded morons and leaving the place like a shit tip. Whether they're at the pub/football usually when its sunny is irrelevant.

The government we have is a symptom not a cause.

The issue ****s me off pretty much about as much as anything else but wondering statistically what proportion of people are actually offenders? I agree there's a brainless herd mentality about it all (see litter, do litter) but I sincerely hope that the majority of people do care enough to take their junk with them regardless of the actions of others.

My local honeypot has been repeatedly trashed over the last couple weeks when I've passed it on the way to my favourite spots.

We're all trashing the environment.
I won't bore you with a list.

Any anger should be focussed on the government and their mishandling of the pandemeic IMO, not the people who are following government guidence, doing something new and not knowing how to behave responsibly.

That argument doesn’t wash, and neither does the ‘all the loos are closed’ whining, because many of those places don’t have loos anyway!
Don’t try to make excuses for senseless vandalism and despoiling of other people’s land.

I've just posted a thread about this sort of thing...i'm glad it's not just me who feels like this!!

God bless the STW brethren!! 🙂

The Daily Mash have nailed it.

Linky

neither does the ‘all the loos are closed’ whining, because many of those places don’t have loos anyway!

Does anyone really leave the house in the morning thinking "I'm really looking forward to shitting in a drain behind a beach hut today?"

https://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/have-you-ever-had-a-wild-poo

Well, the beauty spot stunt poo game has certainly peaked this weekend.

Watch out for a suspect with one sock on.

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must've been a big 'un if it broke the shovel 😣

I honestly did not expect to google Durdle Poo Yoghurt today

National parks have been battling this problem for decades. They understand that 70% of visitors never get more than 100 yards from their cars and they site amenities around the edges of the parks so as to try to filter most visitors out.

Don't forget also that by this time of year a couple of million mouth-breathers should normally be littering beaches around the Mediterranean.

There have been many people opining on various social media outlets whether after the lockdown is over society will be different. More caring, understanding and generally better. I've been judged as a cynic for suggesting "will it bollocks!" Once the restrictions are lifted, all the bikes, training shoe and family / neighbourly togetherness will be put away and we'll be back exactly the way we were before. Glad to see that the arseholes destroying beauty spots are proving me right...

Not glad at all actually just profoundly depressed at how predictably lazy and scruffy a good chunk of the population of this country are.

Not glad at all actually just profoundly depressed at how predictably lazy and scruffy a good chunk of the population of this country are.