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Anyone have dual Citizenship (or two passports for other reasons)?
If so, does it matter if you travel "out" on one passport and "return" on another passport?
Use case: UK/Canadian dual citizen with both passports. I presume travelling from UK into Canada it's best to use Canadian passport as no visa/Esta requirements and use UK passport for return leg for same reason.
This makes sense from immigration dept reasons but do airlines get pissy about you doing this as you can't change passport number on flight tickets?
(I'm assuming you'd need to be careful to be stamped in/out on the same passport though eg if you went into Schengen area so they can keep tabs on your 90 day limit)
My wife does this routinely* (Canadian/UK dual citizen) it causes her no issues, with the added benefit of not paying the $7 dollars** for her ESTA.
*when she can find either of her passports.
**If you know any Canadians, you'll understand...
My kids who are now both adults have French and British passports. UK Border force suggested to us to use the passport that corresponds to the country you are entering.
Have two (UK, Sweden). I don't travel much and don't need it when I got to places in Europe. When I go back to the UK I use the UK one, but then enter Sweden on the way back with the Swedish one
Mrs Comet was asked about this when she entered Spain with an EU (not Spanish) passport, but left with her UK one. They simply asked her at the departure gate if she had another passport and mentioned they prefer entry and exit to be with the same passport.
Junior uses his British passport to get in to the UK and his French one to get back to Europe. No problems to date travelling on Eurostar apart from missing a train due to the long queue at security. By plane he uses his British passport to get on the plane in the UK and his French one to get off in Europe, again no problems to date.
I follow consulate advice and use my french passport both ways but as of 1/04/25 that would cost me £10 so I'll adopt junior's strategy.
They simply asked her at the departure gate if she had another passport and mentioned they prefer entry and exit to be with the same passport.
Presumably, that was airline that prefers "one passport" rather than an immigration agent?
I guess one disadvantage of this is potentially loosing two passports on holiday 🫣😃
I have two UK passports and did sometimes travel into Europe on one and back home on the other. Nobody appeared to notice: I’m not sure if that was because they shared data with the UK government that told them both passports were linked, or just because they didn’t know.
Since Brexit with this silly business of the EU stamping you in and out they are theoretically supposed to check how many days you’ve been in the EU, in which cases swapping passports in vs out might cause you some bother.
UK law is that if you're British or Irish you must use either UK or Irish passport to enter the UK. I suspect other countries will similarly require their nationals to use the 'home' passport. That said, I don’t know how they would check. I have wondered about the flight booking aspect, but as I’m dual Irish/UK it’s not an issue I worry about.
Dual British Australian here and I use the passport for whichever country I'm entering at the destination. Never had any issues at all. And for random counties whichever one has more favourable visa options!
I'm dual Canadian British here. If flying UK-Canada-UK again, it's easier to travel on the Canadian (but take both), because as you say at check-in they'll insist on checking your eligibility to get into Canada.
But it also means on the return leg you'll probably get called up to check your (British) passport for the same reason. Airlines, I discovered, get hefty fines for every person they bring to a country who doesn't have the right paperwork to get in. I found this out at Boston Logan when I boarded a flight from Toronto with my shiny new (British) passport and an unexpired (but associated with my old passport) ESTA. $10k I think was the fine they wrote up for the airline, and that was 10 years ago.
Airlines, I discovered, get hefty fines for every person they bring to a country who doesn't have the right paperwork to get in.
Yeah, I was thinking this might be problematic for airlines, yet all the flight booking websites I've used only allow one passport number to be associated with a (return) ticket. Which suggests some sort of disconnect between the data the airlines and immigration departments use...
UK law is that if you're British or Irish you must use either UK or Irish passport to enter the UK.
Somebody ought to change some government websites and tell the people at immigration control that if it's true. I've been going in and out on a French passport for a couple of decades. Most recently last summer and hopefullynext monday the day before the £10 fine for entering my country of birth comes in. Do they let you post on STW from detention centers so I can admit I was wrong if they detain me?
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my nephew has a dutch and a uk passport. He got into trouble using both getting in and out of the uk as he ended up with an entry to the eu stamp in his uk passport but no exit one so it looked like he overstayed his 90 days.
Timely thread as I apply for my Irish passport. I think (hope?) border control and airline checking in etc are two separate controls so...
I assumed that I'd use UK passport to exit UK passport control, Irish passport to enter EU passport control. Irish out through EU passport control and UK in through UK passport control.
In terms of booking flights (ferries etc) checking in etc I'd use UK passport - including checking in on a return from EU - as it matches where I live.
Travelling outside EU I think just use UK passport as less potential for confusion
@Olddog There’s no real point in doing that rigmarole, with an Irish passport you go through the UK nationals line at UK passport control as we are a common travel area. I only have an Irish passport and have never been delayed entering the UK nor had any issues with ticket purchases from UK companies etc.
Travel outside the EU - if your flight gets hijacked very few organisations will kill the Irish, they’ll start with the Israelis, then the yanks and the British passport holders
Mrs OTS and the kids have UK and Italian passports. As stated above, use the UK passport to re-enter the uk. They had an issue with a border force bod at MAN a couple of years ago when they tried to re-enter on their italian passports. Photos of their British passports on their phones de-escalated what could have technically turned into a proper pain in the arse.
Presumably, that was airline that prefers "one passport" rather than an immigration agent?
It was at passport control
Photos of their British passports on their phones de-escalated what could have technically turned into a proper pain in the arse.
When I entered the UK on a French passport a few years back and pre Bexit it didn't take too long to convince them I was also British - well about half an hour of checking. I rattled off my NI number, a few old addresses, the hospital I was born in etc. from memory and when it all tallied they let me in.
I once spent four hours at Newark waiting for a colleague who got taken away to a private room to explain why he was in possession of a passport which was not the one he had his ESTA issued against! He had two U.K. passports because he travelled in the Middle East and it causes problems if you have Israeli stamps in your passport and try to get a visa for some other countries.
He assures me no rubber gloves were involved. But having presented the wrong passport and then producing the correct one set off red flags with the immigration officer. Most of the time was spent waiting for someone at the U.K. FCO / Passport Office to confirm that both passports were real and this was legit arrangement!
so if you do this make sure you don’t trigger the passport officials by appearing to be an anomaly.
Ugh, never give US DHS/ immigration reason to flag you. Using the wrong passport is a big one - although I was almost taken away at Newark because of an old ****stan visa in my passport. Although the ones at the land borders tend to be a bit more chilled - I had a great chat with immigration crossing from Ontario to New York state about my Turkmenistan visa
because of an old ****stan visa
Does "Turkmeni" flag as a swear word in the New World Order?
Or was the visa from P4kistan? If it's redacting the first four letters of a perfectly normal country name then the world has truly gone mad
Got both a UK and Irish passport. Have travelled with both at different times to the US and had no issue. My UK one is up for renewal soon but i'm not sure i'll bother and just use the Irish one.
Dual Australian/British citizen. I also hold a couple British passports as I need to have a valid one for travel if the other's away getting a Visa put in it. I don't use the Australian one often other than going to Australia or a few times when the Brexit thing happened and some German airports wouldn't let you use the e-gate with the British passport.
I still keep one expired British passport as the US Visas are still valid for another year.
Or was the visa from P4kistan? If it's redacting the first four letters of a perfectly normal country name then the world has truly gone mad
Good spot. It would indeed seem to be the Muslim country to India's west that the swear filter doesn't like. I understand why it's in the filter, but it's a new one to me!
I took both last year to fly into Barcelona. This year I'll just take my Irish one.
Queue into Barcelona was non existent. I was through while the lads I was with were still zigzagging.
Back into Manchester. As most of the flight was UK holders that queue was fast but much longer. EU channel had three folk in it. So was through quickly.
Or was the visa from P4kistan? If it's redacting the first four letters of a perfectly normal country name then the world has truly gone mad
Good spot. It would indeed seem to be the Muslim country to India's west that the swear filter doesn't like. I understand why it's in the filter, but it's a new one to me!
Just checking if it does the same to S****horpe or if it allows the north Lincolnshire towns name?
Edit: nope it doesn't like that either! 😀
Edit 2: Maybe there's a thread in this, "guess the swear filtered place name"...
Just checking the place names thing
Cockermouth, Shitterton, ****t.
edit. It doesn’t like the place in Orkney that rhymes with hat and starts with Tw.
Basic rules....
1.) If you hold a passport for the country you are entering, you should use the passport for that country.
2.) Always use the same passport to enter and leave a country.
I currently hold two passports (UK and EU country) and will soon be adding a third (second EU country). I generally book flights with my UK passport, but as others have said already, that doesn't stop you presenting an alternative passport at border control.
Also, remember that if you enter a country using an alternative passport, you fall under the consular support of that country, and if you are in the country where you hold a passport, you may not have reliance of the consular support of any other country where you hold a passport. This might seem blindingly obvious, but thanks to Brexit, lots of Brits have picked up European passports through birth-rights etc and must remember that if they end up travelling in the country where they have their second passport, and get into any trouble, they will be regarded as a national of country (which they are), and the UK government is not going to help them.
If we all end up going to war, also consider implications of conscription etc. Dual nationals usually fall down down the list of those who are called, but it can and has happened.
they will be regarded as a national of country (which they are), and the UK government is not going to help them.
I don't think that's true if you hold a passport the consulate will assist you as a citizen of that country. What happens if you cross a European border? Flying into Geneva in July but going to France.
From gov.uk site on dual citizenship.
Travelling abroad
As a dual national you cannot get diplomatic help from the British government when you are in the other country where you hold citizenship.
For example, if you hold both British and French citizenship you cannot get diplomatic help from the UK when you’re in France.
If you are a dual British national in a third country where you are not a national, (for example a dual French-British national in Germany), we can usually provide the same support we provide to British nationals. You do not need to be travelling on your British passport to seek support from the local British embassy, high commission or consulate.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/who-the-fcdo-can-support-abroad#dual-nationals
If we all end up going to war, also consider implications of conscription etc. Dual nationals usually fall down down the list of those who are called, but it can and has happened.
I guess that’s not a big risk for most people on here who would probably only end up being commanded by Capt Mainwairing?
Swapping the passport you are travelling with in transit might raise a few questions on motivation and if EES links to API data equally so. You’ll need a Visa for your UK passport anyway so would be simpler to stick with EU passport and book flights with that.Timely thread as I apply for my Irish passport. I think (hope?) border control and airline checking in etc are two separate controls so...
I assumed that I'd use UK passport to exit UK passport control, Irish passport to enter EU passport control. Irish out through EU passport control and UK in through UK passport control.
In terms of booking flights (ferries etc) checking in etc I'd use UK passport - including checking in on a return from EU - as it matches where I live.
Travelling outside EU I think just use UK passport as less potential for confusion
The non UK lines in UK tend to be fairly short anyway so why would you bother?
Our girls have UK & French, as mentioned above they use the French passport to enter the EU and the UK passport to come home. Traveling outside the EU hasn't made any difference so far, I'm sure at some point we'll go somewhere where it might be more difficult to apply for a visa with one or the other.