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Can you tap out triplets with one hand while tapping eighth notes with the other?
I’ve been trying all day, and can’t quite get it. I start with one hand doing one pattern and my other hand falls into exactly the same rhythm.
Should I be listening to what the pattern sounds like when successfully put together, and imitating that? Or is coordinating them simply a matter of repetition?
polyrythmns are quite advanced.
started here:
2 against 3
3 against 4.
Hearing it done does help.
But trying it yourself slowly, writing it down helps (anyway that you can see the spacing between hands) and building up speed, also works. Might not be perfect for a while until you’ve done it loads, slow and other speeds, and start to see how the hands interact/coincide.
Slow is good for learning, always!
Don't think of it as two rhythms, but a whole. The video demonstrates it well, but think of it as R/L RLR, playing the rhythm 1 2&3 (R/L is both hands at the same time.)
You're playing the triplet with R and duplet with L, while counting the triplet. That could be described as a 2 over 3 polyrhythm.
Drill that into your hands for a bit, then invert the sticking to try it the other way.
After that, see if you can count 1 a2&. That way you're counting the duplet, and playing a 3 over 2 polyrhythm.
The actual rhythm is the same in both instances, it just depends where you feel the pulse.
Try playing it linear, miss out any triplet note that falls same time as an eighth note.
Once you get that, play the triplet whole and miss simultaneous eighth notes.
Any of that helping?
My tuppenyworth...
Four beats with the left hand, three with the right. Arranged so:
L: ! ! ! !
R: ! ! !
Start slow and build up. Both hands together on the first and last beats. The middle one with the right is the tricky bit, but think of the left hand as the base and just keep it going...
Rots of ruck.
I'm guessing Saxonrider is talking about 1/4 note (i.e. crotchet) triplets against 1/8 notes (i.e. quavers). Correct me if I'm wrong. So that's 2 against 3 not 4 against 3.
Start with 1 against 3, the change the 1 to 2 by going twice as fast. Well that's the theory. This morning in wind band I've been tackling a piece in 6/8 (so 2 in a bar) which switches to 3 crotchets in the bar (so 2 against 3). Same thing (though admittedly not simultaneous).
I’m thinking one-and-a-two-and-a-three-and-a-four with one hand, one-and-two-and-three-and-four with the other, with one, tow, three & four being played simultaneously with both hands.
Doing it, on the other hand (three hands?) is another thing... generally, my left hand is for the two and the four. I don’t practice independence any way near as much as I should
I’m thinking one-and-a-two-and-a-three-and-a-four with one hand, one-and-two-and-three-and-four with the other, with one, two, three & four being played simultaneously with both hands.
Doing it, on the other hand (three hands?) is another thing... generally, my left hand is for the two and the four. I don’t practice independence any way near as much as I should