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Watching Stirling fireworks tonight, it was interrupted by a large drone over houses and crowd.
Drone flew away, only to return a few minutes later below tree level, 'hiding' from crowd.
Drone clipped tree and was hung up.
Owner couldn't get up tree.
An hour later my son goes and gets said drone. £1300 worth of some posh drone.
I'm planning on taking it to police in morning.
So, any chance OAB can keep it?
Would police be interested in flying a large drone over the public at a large event?
Yup. Pretty much illegal in most situations.
So the options are return to owner, or report to police in the hope of claiming something that isn't yours?
We don't know where the owner is.
Someone was at bottom of tree for a while.
You could only see the lights from certain angles.
Lights were still there a couple of hours after crash, no owner.
Taking it to police = lost property.
I guess I'm hopeful owner may not go to police, as they will have to explain why it was being flown there...
Advertise on Facebook, drone recovered etc. Probably get some kind of reward from owner.
Wait.
Owner will probably offer a reward via FB posts in a few days...
Stick it on gumtree, the owner can buy it back.
I’m sure a few people on here could make sure that it goes for a good price on any auction site.
Police, as lost property, otherwise it's just theft by finding. Like you said, its unlikely the owner will want to admit to something stupid like flying it over a public fireworks display, it would do some serious injuries if it fell out of the sky after being hit!
Yes. So maybe the owner should be made to admit to the law he was (probably) being a ****. It could have been a child’s face. Baby Robin, kitten whatever. Rules are there. Imagine if it hit a member of your family.
It's not your drone.
You may not have liked the way it was being used, but it's still not yours.
Trying to be a bigger **** than the owner, by firing yourself up with unjustified "outrage" is just Trump politics on a personal level. I'm sure you can "self justify" til the cows come home, I can tell from the tone there's no arguing with you.Your motives are however, reprehensibly transparent.
Police are stretched already, failing to investigate burglary, car crime ect, and you're planning on rocking up at the station shouting about the "crime" of, er someone using a drone badly, in the hope of a windfall.
Just a shame your petty childish and vindictive grubby worldview has been inherited by junior. I mean, you were pretty quickly working out "what it's worth", despite the "outrage". You know its not yours, but you still let your kid climb the tree to take it where someone has "left" it, regardless of the circumstances.
Theft by finding is still theft. Imagine it was someones bicycle. Just because you saw them go through a red light 20 mins later, making them a MASSIVE LAWBREAKER, doesn't mean you can steal it if you find it unlocked.
Do I know you jujuuker68?
I think you have found the owner MOAB
name your price for safe return!
This is not the drone you are looking for.
Errr... He did say he was taking it to the police.
The price does have a bearing on it, if it had been a £20 polystyrene bodied thing off eBay then I imagine most people would just bin it as it wouldn't even be worth the petrol for the owner to go there and collect it.
Move along
Stick it off to the police Matt. Drone flying around an event like that is idiotic and will be against conditions within the licence granted by the Council for the fireworks display. Illegal within 30m of a person or building too.
I know the above because some **** flew a drone at the Falkirk Callendar Park fireworks last year 5 mins before they were due to be lit. Ended up in court. Was a big push by the local Trust who organisae the display this year to raise awareness of the drone ban.
I mean, you were pretty quickly working out “what it’s worth”,
You will find that mini_OAB is actually a drone owner and flies regularly. He knows what it's worth without looking it up. It's a bit less than he first thought - its a Mavic 2.
Outrage? I'm smiling.
You're right, I'm going to try and return the thing to its owner, via the normal channels.
Yes I do hope the police may lean on someone about not flying above a large crowd.
We didn't steal it, mini_oab (as a fellow drone pilot) thought he was being helpful, thought the pilot would still be there. He and uncle went to get it, as mini_oab is good tree climber. It's going back in morning.
Yes, there is a wee glimmer of a lost item not being recovered, but only a glimmer.
I'm still wondering if I insulted your mum or something in the dim distant past...
Do I know you jujuuker68?
He seems to think he knows you!
Trying not to make more mum jokes.
I’d like to vouch for Matt’s moral fibre.
He once offered me an emergency trumpet 🎺 when I was in a fix.
That is not the act of a criminal mastermind.
*parp*
Not an emergency tromboning?
No, that would be a *paa-aaa-arrrp*
Whilst flying through fireworks would be very bad and naughty, it would be brilliant fun.
A DJI Mavic is a fairly small, flimsy drone. It wouldn't cause too much damage if it crashed into something.
I was surprised by the weight of the thing.
Mini_oab's racing drone weighs maybe a quarter of this Pro2.
I'm still not sure I want a kilogram falling on my head from a hundred metres up!
Don’t think the Police deal in lost property any more.
This is Notts but they say it’s across all forces.
https://www.nottinghamshire.police.uk/lostproperty
Yup. Pretty much illegal in most situations.
How so?
Genuine question, over the years I've been involved in both photography and model rocketry so know a bit about photos in public space and use of airspace. I'm interested as to what's different here.
@cougar criteria might now be 150m away from a crowd of 1000+ people. Or something similar.
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Seen some snazzy airborne footage on YouTube? Well, it might have been captured illegally as, according to UK laws regulated by the Civil Aviation Authority, consumer drones (classed as those that weigh under 20kg) must be flown no higher than 400 feet (120 metres), and be kept at least 50 metres away from people and private property, and 150 metres from congested areas and organised open-air assemblies of more than 1,000 people.
So pretty much legal in most situations.
Sounds like it's within 50m of stuff not under control of the user.
Public events are a risky area for drones without permission usually, and certainly no over flying.
Point is the CAA rules only cover the basics, if the flight can't be made safely it shouldn't have.
I would take to police station.
Bad recreational flying is stuffing it up for us that do it for a living.
You could try and retrieve the flight logs which might take you to the owner with a bit of detective work?
So thats why they were stop start. I took footage of last years but was over 150m from the crowd (took off from the field beside birds n bees) as aware of the laws surrounding flying.....
As is suggested above,
Hand it into the police as lost property. Major karma points for yourself.
If memory serves me correctly, if lost property is not claimed in 6months the finder can collect the item. Seem to remember getting a watch as a young boy this way, found it in the park, handed it in, got it 6months later.
You never know the owner may seek to find and reward you for your honesty. Failing that they take it as stolen, claim their insurance, you get a new toy in 6months.
"Don’t think the Police deal in lost property any more"
They'll still deal with found property, and I imagine that they'll search the found property index if you ask. What they won't do is take a speculative report that you lost something
Take it to the police, ask to claim it if unclaimed, wait... You might be able to report it found to police by phone (or whatever) and store it until told you can claim it
Whilst flying through fireworks would be very bad and naughty, it would be brilliant fun.
See, I don’t get this at all. Mind you, I never really likes kites when I was a kid either. Because you’re not really ‘flying’, are you? I mean, you’re standing on the ground with a panel in your hand moving your thumbs around. A little bit like a PlayStation (or whatever) in fact.
i honestly don’t know; maybe I assume completely incorrectly, but I don’t get the drone thing at all, unless we’re talking about them as serious tools for different purposes, including photography.
”oh look, honey! I can move my thumbs so the drone goes where it’s not supposed to!”
”good for you, honey! All those years of training and personal risk have really paid off!”
Have you pulled the sim card to have a look at the footage?
Then load it up with the regs for drone flying and perhaps details of some cases that have gone to court 🙂
To police and hope it isn't claimed and then hope the controller isn't too expensive so you can buy a replacement when the drone is handed back as unclaimed.
Genuine question, over the years I’ve been involved in both photography and model rocketry
Could you get any cooler?
Hand it over to Plod, yes they are over worked so it might end up with the CAA for investigating breaking the Drone code which from the description of large crowds in a public space the owner did violate.
So pretty much legal in most situations.
Most LA's ban take off and landing of rc craft/drones from their land so you can't take off from there and then
be kept at least 50 metres away... private property
covers anywhere else that you could fly unless you have the land owners permission.
so pretty much illegal in most situations.
I challenged a bloke at my local park who used to regularly buzz a drone up and down - all the dogs used to start looking up and wondering what was going on. I asked him if he knew what the rules were and he said it had to be 50m off the ground. I asked how high he was flying it, answer was 25m because it was boring if he went higher.
With a twist you say.......
Don't check the sim card whatever you do! The drone may have captured footage of a "murrrrderrrr" and you and your family will be hunted down by the "perps".
😉
I've reviewed the footage this morning. We're on it with sparklers...
Drone isn't above the crowd on the footage - it's close, but above all the houses in Bridge of Allan.
Looks like they had the drone really low between trees (as we could see from our vantage point) in the memorial park, clipped the big Yew that mini_oab fished it out of.
The drone may have captured footage of a “murrrrderrrr” and you and your family will be hunted down by the “perps”.
You can't prove nothing. Freeeeeeedom!
Just tell the Police you have it - no need to hand it in. The owner can then contact you through them if they wish.
Is that why there was such a delay between sequences? I was too tight to pay so watched from the Birds and the Bees...it was a terrible show due to the lack of fluidity between firings...like a drawn up back-garden-fired-by-dad.
We did see a drone after the first few shells...
Just tell the Police you have it – no need to hand it in. The owner can then contact you through them if they wish.
Yes, don't hand in to Police Scotland. I did and they destroyed it after the owner didn't claim it.
https://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/found-a-drone-how-to-trace-owner/
I’ve reviewed the footage this morning. We’re on it with sparklers…
Drone isn’t above the crowd on the footage – it’s close, but above all the houses in Bridge of Allan.
Looks like they had the drone really low between trees (as we could see from our vantage point) in the memorial park, clipped the big Yew that mini_oab fished it out of.
If you can be bothered you can get the flight logs from the drone. Then you can see where it's taken off from. If there is a clear location and it's say in a garden you can easily figure it out.
Having said that it's harder without the remote control but you can still pull them from the hull if you can be bothered.
Aaahhh, I did wonder if I saw a drone after the first few fireworks went off. The steady red light in the sky got me confused for a bit.
Thing is....there is a huge field the exact opposite side where you 'could' have flown it without it being near to people or the event. Very odd they chose the memorial park side as a take off point. Sorry, not odd....very, very stupid.
Hand it in to the Police, let them take care of it. The Mavic 2 if it fell from the sky would be no joke, so there really isn't any place for not following the drone code, especially at a large public event like that.
Police Scotland are good at that, they took my mates £2k worth of air rifles for safe keeping (after he hung himself) and a week or two later informed the NOK they were going to be destroyed. Managed to get them all back but not without legal intervention.
No-one at Dunblane station, although reading above it might not be a bad thing I’ve 101’d and kept hold of it…
It’s a Mavic 2. One snapped motor mount and a couple of props snapped
Check local faceache groups, it's where our local drone photographers look if their craft get lost.
Most people who found it would probably have binned it as most people won’t know how valuable it is or really care. I’d be tempted to do the same..... but would probably inform the police that I’d found it
jujuuk68 has gone awfully quiet!
I reckon Matt_oab has a voodoo doll and is practising his bad JuJu spells
Interesting topic.
My BiL has a drone for the farm, uses it for checking on cattle and sheep and fences, that kind of stuff.
Anyway, down the road a bit is Harrogate Police Headquarters and he got a visit from them last month about the flying of the drone near thier headq..
Well, his farm land backs onto the Cardale Park see so it’s private land but in very close proximity to an industrial estate and the headq..
Upshot?
Been told not to fly it near the HQ.. and told not to launch/land from that field.
Not too sure if he’s been following what he was told...
Isnt thier a “safe code” for drone flying guidelines published ??
jujuuk68 has gone awfully quiet!
Surely that was just someone trying too hard to post in the 'STW style'? Funniest thing I've seen in ages 😀
“Don’t think the Police deal in lost property any more”
They’ll still deal with found property
Round our way they don't. They just ask you to put it on their lost and found website..................
Well I think MOAB is a very irresponsible/disreputable character I once heard of him using unbranded hydraulic fluid in his brakes, and he encourages his kids to go "sick" in the local woods. He also "gave" me some skis once Kastle 190's - I'm only 176cm tall. For the avoidance of doubt - his children take after their mother.
I'm pretty sure there is video evidence of one of his sons taking after him...as an outtake after a OTB crash...sounded just like him! 😉
Well, his farm land backs onto the Cardale Park see so it’s private land but in very close proximity to an industrial estate and the headq..
Upshot?
Been told not to fly it near the HQ.. and told not to launch/land from that field.
Not too sure if he’s been following what he was told…
Isnt thier a “safe code” for drone flying guidelines published ?
I smell a rat, sure there are often no fly zones in place on the DJI software. I do some filming next to a prison - providing I don't overfly the prison (which is restricted in software) you're golden.
Put his info in http://www.noflydrones.co.uk
Organisations / Institutions / Land managers /Trusts etc think they control the airspace. They don't. The CAA does.
It's funny I report local hoodlums in and around Sherwood forest for hunting with rifles in broad daylight and the Police brush it off and do nothing.
Get a Drone out and you're in proper bother.
It’s farm land, private and he is allowed to fly it there.
Like I said, after the conversation with Plod I dont know if he still flies it there or not.
I will ask him next time I’m up.
For the avoidance of doubt – his children take after their mother.
Thank goodness for that....
Organisations / Institutions / Land managers /Trusts etc think they control the airspace. They don’t. The CAA does.
Correct. A fact often overlooked by sensitive souls...
I had to do the CAA course recently, it's full on!
I report local hoodlums in and around Sherwood forest for hunting with rifles in broad daylight
Isn't that safer than doing it in the dark? *wonders*
This thread is nothing without jujuuk68. That was a hark back to the stw forum of yore. I was just getting my deck-chair and thermos out, settling down to some entertainment.
He's incoming!
Dunno, even if he was trying to be funny or ironic, that jujuuk68 post kinda scared me. That's the kind of attitude that drove me to the fringes of lurkerdom on this forum.
Organisations / Institutions / Land managers /Trusts etc think they control the airspace. They don’t. The CAA does.
I assume the police would be used for enforcement in the first instance though so not unreasonable in this case?
I smell a rat
I guess on the same basis as...
It’s farm land, private and he is allowed to fly it there.
Even if the land is private it isn't necessarily going to be legal to fly there though surely?
be kept at least 50 metres away [from] private property
Eg there's nowhere in my property i could launch a drone and satisfy that. Completely accept I've no real knowledge or understanding of it (nor do i fly a drone) but "50m from private property [you've no permission to use]" is very (well 50m) different from anywhere on property you've permission to be using.
I can also understand why they might not be keen on you overflying police hq etc, restricted airspace (i imagine it probably is) or no, there's probably a few things they could potentially make l a nuisance with if they wanted to there given the nature of the building.
I'd keep it, purely to annoy jujuuk. 😆
jujuuk
Reading his post again, I'm inclined to think he is a disgruntled ex-employee or that I had wee'd on his sofa...
It seems a deeper seated resentment, more like you've shat on his bed tbh.
Where’s jujuuk68 gone? I fear he or she may have died of uncontrollable rage. I don’t care about the drone I just need to know what Mattoab did.
You will all be pleased to know a local chancer replied to my online 'drone found' posts, guessing (incorrectly) location and model of drone... Nice try, sunshine.
Whilst you’re here what did you do to jujuuk you bastard? 😀
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... I’m inclined to think he is a disgruntled ex-employee or that I had wee’d on his sofa…
Would be interested to see the Venn diagram for these groups of people, MOAB. And how many would we be talking about in total.....?
Beginning to see a whole other Matt here.
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Reading his post again, I’m inclined to think he is a disgruntled ex-employee or that I had wee’d on his sofa…
The weird thing is you don’t seem surprised by his accusations and character assassination. How have you treated your employees!? I know this place is weird sometimes but.......