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Just about to get another van. The one I'm getting isn't taxed at the moment. Am I supposed to get it taxed before I pick it up? I'm not going to get the registration documents until I've paid for it which would be when I collect it. I have just read the following,

If you (as the buyer) have a V5C/2, you can tax your vehicle
at a Post Offi
ce
®
branch that issues tax discs if you do this within two
months of the date you bought the vehicle, or within 13 months at a
DVLA local offi
ce.

Does this mean I can get it and backdate the tax disc? Would I be just as well getting some trade plates to get me home and then sort it out?


 
Posted : 27/08/2013 6:08 pm
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As far as I know you can only drive an untaxed car to a garage for a pre booked MOT test. Its all a hassle I agree.


 
Posted : 27/08/2013 6:29 pm
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Nope - you have to buy it and take the documents to a PO and get tax there and then.


 
Posted : 27/08/2013 6:31 pm
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go get it, drive it home, get it taxed at earliest opportunity... believe it or not the world will not end.


 
Posted : 27/08/2013 6:35 pm
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Are you a cyclist?

Then you don't pay roadtax.


 
Posted : 27/08/2013 6:38 pm
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^^Done this loads, make sure its insured though.


 
Posted : 27/08/2013 6:38 pm
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You don't get the Reg document when you buy it, just a tear off section, but you can get it taxed with just that bit of the V5. I'd be inclined to risk driving straight to the nearest Post Office which does tax discs (not all of them do). Alternative is to ask the seller if you can have the tear off bit prior to purchase so you can tax it beforehand. I did this recently for a buyer, but he was a copper so I was happy doing it.
You'll obviously also need insurance doc. and MOT cert.


 
Posted : 27/08/2013 6:39 pm
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Just be aware that if you get stopped by the rozzas you may get a fine.

If you can get it taxed before you drive you may as well.

As per taxi25 - driving uninsured is a whole different ball game and really not to be advised...


 
Posted : 27/08/2013 6:45 pm
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Are you a ****ing idiot?

Then you don't pay roadtax.

FTFY

'Alcohol tax' a tax some people pay to purchase alcohol

'Tobacco tax' a tax some people pay to purchase tobacco

'Inheritance tax' a tax some people pay on any inheritance

'Income tax' a tax some people pay on their income

'Road tax' a tax some people pay to use the roads

If, for some unfathomable reason, you're having trouble understanding that, get any reasonably competent 8 year old to explain it to you.


 
Posted : 27/08/2013 6:48 pm
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Posted : 27/08/2013 6:51 pm
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Can't you get the person you are buying it from to tax it and you add that to the cost of the van? That way you you won't get F'ed in the A if you get pulled.


 
Posted : 27/08/2013 6:53 pm
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That's a bit new looking Cougar.


 
Posted : 27/08/2013 6:53 pm
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It'll be insured so that's not a problem. The guy that looked it over with me can take me to get it and bring some trade plates, I was just wondering if I could save him the bother. Here's hoping the guy doesn't do a bunk with the deposit.


 
Posted : 27/08/2013 7:29 pm
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FTFY

'Alcohol tax' a tax some people pay to purchase alcohol

'Tobacco tax' a tax some people pay to purchase tobacco

'Inheritance tax' a tax some people pay on any inheritance

'Income tax' a tax some people pay on their income

'Road tax' a tax some people pay to use the roads

If, for some unfathomable reason, you're having trouble understanding that, get any reasonably competent 8 year old to explain it to you.

I think you've missed the joke there Tucker....

I think Samuri was making a joke about the people who say "cyclists don't pay road tax", which suggests we don't have to pay it even when we're in a car. I think.


 
Posted : 27/08/2013 7:39 pm
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I'm pretty sure that any insurance would be invalidated if your vehicle is not taxed. I can't imagine that in the event of an accident any insurance company would not use this as an excuse to not to pay out against your premium. There is bound to be language somewhere in the small print to say it is the owners responsibility to ensure the car is road legal at all times and failure to do so will invalidate the policy - a car without tax is not road legal. Having said that I did just that a few months ago when I bought a car - I drove it about 5 miles to the nearest PO to get a tax disc.


 
Posted : 27/08/2013 7:46 pm
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I think you've missed the joke there Tucker....

No, it's one of his standard responses. GrahamS usually pops in to pwn him though. I never tire of seeing him doing it. 🙂


 
Posted : 27/08/2013 7:48 pm
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I think the usual way to do it is to get the current owner to tax it. Takes 5 mins to do it online...


 
Posted : 27/08/2013 8:00 pm
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I'm pretty sure that any insurance would be invalidated if your vehicle is not taxed.

It wouldn't.


 
Posted : 27/08/2013 8:04 pm
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That's a bit new looking Cougar.

I blame Google image search.


 
Posted : 27/08/2013 8:07 pm
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driving it home without tax should be fine just make sure its insured and MOT'd and don't drive like a ****. If you get pulled over politely explain the situation. Obviously this may only apply if its a short drive, if your doing hundreds of miles get it taxed first.


 
Posted : 27/08/2013 8:18 pm
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If you've got access to trade plates use them, why risk it?


 
Posted : 27/08/2013 8:40 pm
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'Road tax' a tax some people pay to use the roads

Strangely enough you don't appear to have replied to my post from last time you made that suggestion. Here's a reminder:

'Road tax' a tax some people pay to use the roads

because it isn't. Everybody is entitled to use the roads.


 
Posted : 27/08/2013 8:52 pm
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Trying to keep this thread on topic, aye I think I will just use the trade plates. Just seems like the sort of situation that might happen a lot and that there would be a bit of allowance for it. The guy knocked £200 off the price so I could have asked him to keep that and just tax it but he was a bit grumpy and didn't seem like he would go out his way too much.


 
Posted : 27/08/2013 8:59 pm
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So Aracer - if I had two cars and used one for rallying and one on the road.............. 😉


 
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[i]If, for some unfathomable reason, you're having trouble understanding that, get any reasonably competent 8 year old to explain it to you.[/i]

Thanks, I will. Once I've finished with him I'll get him to come across and explain funnies to you.


 
Posted : 27/08/2013 9:23 pm
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You can throw out any old hypothetical you want. It's still not road tax. It's hard to believe this is still having to be explained here in 2013.

Hmmm, maybe you're just messing though...are ya? 🙂


 
Posted : 27/08/2013 9:24 pm
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How far do you have to go? To be honest, I wouldn't worry too much. No tax is nowhere near as bad as no licence or no insurance to the police. You should be able to talk your way out of it in the circumstances 🙂


 
Posted : 27/08/2013 9:27 pm
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Definitely make sure everything else is in order if you do drive on the registration (i.e. not on trade plates) since lack of tax will ping any passing ANPR cars and you're therefore more likely to get pulled.


 
Posted : 27/08/2013 9:30 pm
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So Aracer - if I had two cars and used one for rallying and one on the road..............

If I were you I'd get an Escort Mexico to rally - that way you could drive it to the events on the road without having to pay VED.


 
Posted : 27/08/2013 9:38 pm
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Personally, I'd just drive it home- I've driven for months without tax due to enormous personal incompetence, and never any probs. (most times, when I finally noticed and taxed the vehicle, the punishment was... I had to pay the tax from the missing period. Greivous!)

Course, if you do get stopped on the way home, don't blame me.


 
Posted : 27/08/2013 9:42 pm
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driving it home without tax should be fine just make sure its insured and MOT'd and don't drive like a ****. If you get pulled over politely explain the situation. Obviously this may only apply if its a short drive, if your doing hundreds of miles get it taxed first.

I would strongly advise against this.

I found the police to be very unsympathetic when a garage parked my SORN'd car on a public road after it's MOT despite having plenty of off-road parking 👿


 
Posted : 27/08/2013 9:43 pm
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It may well depend on which part of the country you are in. My suggestion applies to deepest darkest bumble****.


 
Posted : 27/08/2013 9:50 pm
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That's a bit new looking Cougar.

..and its a conker, not an 'old chestnut'

bell ends.


 
Posted : 27/08/2013 11:09 pm
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Drive it home you have 5 days I think to get it taxed. You have to keep it off road till its taxed. Some insurers will not pay out if your vehicle is not taxed . There have been court cases successfully brought against them but it's a long abd expensive process


 
Posted : 27/08/2013 11:12 pm
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Insure it so the DVLA register that the vehicle is insured, then tax it online. Yes, you are not displaying a valid tax disc, but you are taxed and as such can explain your situation to the police if you do get pulled over.

All you need is the details from the v5 doc, which, I'm sure the seller will provide.


 
Posted : 28/08/2013 3:39 am
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Insure it so the DVLA register that the vehicle is insured, then tax it online. Yes, you are not displaying a valid tax disc, but you are taxed and as such can explain your situation to the police if you do get pulled over.

All you need is the details from the v5 doc, which, I'm sure the seller will provide.

This doesn't work as the tax disc gets sent to the name on the V5. i.e the old owner.

Just stop being lazy and tax it at the nearest PO. Of course you can drive it with tax but the police will take a dim view. It's not like "I have just bought it" has never been used as an excuse before.

I think that they feel if you can go out of you way to pick up your new car, then you can go to a Post Office as well.

It's not a difficult process


 
Posted : 28/08/2013 6:29 am
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Is it catchphrase? I thought it was "In a nutshell". I just don't know who to believe anymore...


 
Posted : 28/08/2013 6:53 am
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As mrmoofo, section 10 (new keeper supplement) is what you'll get off the V5. It definitely states on the v5 that you can temporarily use this tear off slip to tax the vehicle (not online).

Got the 'that old chestnut' ,I'm now wondering if cheez0 is joking or stupid.


 
Posted : 28/08/2013 6:55 am
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I'm now wondering if cheez0 is joking or stupid.

I'm sure he's not stupid, even if calling someone a bell-end because you think a chestnut should be called a conker is a bit stupid in itself.


 
Posted : 28/08/2013 7:05 am
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But it's clearly a new chesnut! Not shriveled and dry or anything o.O


 
Posted : 28/08/2013 8:35 am
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Hence my comment to Cougar:

...that looks a bit new...

To be fair, google image search does not readily bring up an old shrivelled up chestnut. 🙂


 
Posted : 28/08/2013 8:42 am
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I'm pretty sure that any insurance would be invalidated if your vehicle is not taxed.

^This.

Either get the current owner to put 6 months on it at your expense (this is what I do when buying a vehicle with no tax on it, most people are fairly accomodating), or get the paperwork, go to a post office and buy your VED disc BEFORE driving it.

You can guarantee that if you try to wing it, something will go wrong.


 
Posted : 28/08/2013 10:34 am
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Or, y'know, since it's an available option, just use the trade plates.


 
Posted : 28/08/2013 10:39 am
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My comment is due to the fact that the picture being shown is not that of a chestnut.. old or new.

Epic fail is epic.


 
Posted : 28/08/2013 10:39 am
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As mrmoofo, section 10 (new keeper supplement) is what you'll get off the V5. It definitely states on the v5 that you can temporarily use this tear off slip to tax the vehicle (not online).

Got the 'that old chestnut' ,I'm now wondering if cheez0 is joking or stupid.

You take the whole V5 down to the PO - after giving the seller the bit that he needs to say he no longer owns the vehicle.
The PO will even send the V5 back to the DVLC for you ...


 
Posted : 28/08/2013 10:50 am
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'Road tax' a tax some people pay to use the roads

Except it was abolished in 1936, and roads are funded out of general taxation.

Vehicle Excise Duty is a tax some people pay for the pollution their vehicle generates.


 
Posted : 28/08/2013 10:58 am
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Posted : 28/08/2013 11:02 am
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driving a car id just bought home from a sale wouldnt bother me in the slightest.

ive done it before , ive been stopped , its always been insured.

I always have all my docs and a signed and dated reciept from the previous owner. I also head to the nearest post office on the way.

all i got was a 7 day producer to check i did get it taxed.

only thing i wouldnt do is hit any main roads where anpr cameras are likely to reside - but since im in scotland they are few and far between.


 
Posted : 28/08/2013 11:06 am

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