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[Closed] Driving is dangerous, mmkay! 1970 Nurburgring madness.

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Thinking of Gunz and his hedge hopping nutter, and being reminded that my mates did similar , 5 up in an Austin Maxi in the 80s, brought me to this. His thread is not the time or place so I started a fresh one.

Enjoy, be horrified, tweet Katie Hopkins, whatever.


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 12:13 pm
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seatbelts?!

the amount of unsecured shite that comes flailing out is crazy....


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 12:18 pm
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the convertable beetle would have been pretty nasty had it rolled like many of the others. Knowing where to film to get most crash action might suggest some minor redesign of the corner.


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 12:19 pm
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The way the cars seem to deform like they're made of cardboard is shocking. It demonstrates just how far safety has come in forty years.

I daresay a few Beetle drivers must have filled their shorts.


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 12:25 pm
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I think I mainly noticed none of the Porsches rolled - they slid around a bit but all stayed upright. I thought 70's Porsches were all supposed to be deathtraps?

I did like the car that rolled and what looked like a fire extinguisher fell out. He had a fire extinguisher but no seatbelt???

Rachel


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 12:36 pm
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That's mental! Like the one where that bloke from Scoobydoo gets ejected from the beetle.


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 12:41 pm
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Ah i miss the days of driving cars on which all the doors pop open on the most minor of impacts. Fun for all the family...........


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 12:43 pm
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Two things that ring regulars carry, a knife and a fire extinguisher...


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 12:44 pm
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The couple of cars where the driver fell out of the door mid slide/roll...
Total Awesomeness!


 
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I think I mainly noticed none of the Porsches rolled - they slid around a bit but all stayed upright. I thought 70's Porsches were all supposed to be deathtraps?

I think that's because they wold lose the back-end big style leading to big crashes rather than roll over.


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 1:08 pm
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The way the cars seem to deform like they're made of cardboard is shocking. It demonstrates just how far safety has come in forty years.

I think people have really started to sense that recently. Its less than 10 years since my only car and daily driver was an early 70s MGB. I wouldn't drive one now and more to the point, while I'm sure there are plenty of owners and collectors of older cars you see barely any on the road now - people may own them but they're not driving them.


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 1:15 pm
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Beetle Cabrio would have been messy..


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 2:38 pm
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2014 - not much has changed except people carry less stuff in their cars and wear belts;


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 2:45 pm
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The problem with 70's/80's 911's was the engine was so far out the back that they swapped ends very quickly, add to that the huge lag on the turbo models meant people would make round the corner ok and then the turbo would kick in and the back end step out. since then the engine has been moved in boards and the turbos are smaller.


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 3:09 pm
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Bloody hell there's some bad driving going on......


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 3:34 pm
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Old Beetles seem to have stronger roofs than a lot of the other things though. Horrifying how easily all the old cars flip.


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 3:59 pm
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Comparing 1970 to 2014 the thing you notice is that most cars seem to run out of grip and slide now, where as 35 years ago they'd slide to a point and if they didn't correct in time they'd just catch, high side over and roll...

Lower CoG's, wider track, less bouncy, better tuned suspension, Stiffer Chassis maybe? many with thinner cross section, less grabby tyres, modern cars are generally betterer innit... dunno if the drivers are.


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 4:25 pm
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A lot of the ones that flipped had swing axles on the back, two driveshaft joints and a couple of extra suspension pivots were considered too expensive by manufacturers.

After years of lowering the centre of gravity manufacturers are raising it again. The A class was famously flippable and a French magazine recently did a piece claiming the handling of the latest Peugeot range of high and narrow cars is worse than the range 20 years ago.


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 4:37 pm
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The Porsches will have a lower centre of gravity than something like a beetle, hence the spinning but no flipping.


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 5:23 pm
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There were some quite horrific trousers in that!


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 5:56 pm
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looks like there were lots of NSU Prinz' coming to grief..
nice light car easy to tune Engine right over the back...what could go wrong.......


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 6:07 pm
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Heard that tune in a different German film,just can't think where


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 6:37 pm
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I think people have really started to sense that recently. Its less than 10 years since my only car and daily driver was an early 70s MGB. I wouldn't drive one now and more to the point, while I'm sure there are plenty of owners and collectors of older cars you see barely any on the road now - people may own them but they're not driving them.

You barely see any on the road purely and simply because most of them turned to ferric oxide a couple of decades ago, and the few that do survive are only driven occasionally because the availability of spares is a real issue.
Old Cortinas, Hillmans, Austins, etc, are just very rare.
There are still plenty of Morris Minors around, because there are loads of spares, and they can be easily modified to take more modern components. Like disc brakes, fuel injection, suspension, etc.
A friend regularly drives her '54 split-screen Moggy all over the country.
She just does it slowly...


 
Posted : 08/01/2015 6:59 pm

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