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Summer is here . On Thursday I'm taking Mrs Zip up to London to have lunch.
It's going to be hot.
I can't believe that in the 21st century to be allowed the honour of paying to eat someone's food I have to dress up as if it is winter.
Long trousers and a jacket. I will die of heat stroke.
This really ****s me off.
While we are still in Europe surely I am being discriminated against because of my gender.


 
Posted : 17/07/2016 10:26 pm
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Have lunch somewhere you don't have to dress the way you don't want to. There must be more than one restaurant in London.


 
Posted : 17/07/2016 10:29 pm
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Wear a dress.


 
Posted : 17/07/2016 10:29 pm
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I might go as a Buddhist. Already got the haircut.


 
Posted : 17/07/2016 10:31 pm
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they get away with it, because people tolerate it. Such is life.


 
Posted : 17/07/2016 10:31 pm
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Instruct ones valet to prepare the linen suit, surely.


 
Posted : 17/07/2016 11:24 pm
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Long trousers and a jacket. I will die of heat stroke.
This really **** me off.

What is it touching 40c?


 
Posted : 18/07/2016 12:02 am
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Linen or seersucker works when you want to look smart and it's warmer outside.


 
Posted : 18/07/2016 7:05 am
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What? No tie or cravat? You must be really slumming it.


 
Posted : 18/07/2016 7:12 am
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What is it touching 40c?

Quite. I spend plenty of time wearing a suit in very hot climes (US, Asia, etc.) Nice lightweight, obviously. Haven't died to death yet.


 
Posted : 18/07/2016 7:31 am
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Since when have McDonalds had a dress code?


 
Posted : 18/07/2016 8:27 am
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Since when have McDonalds had a dress code?

Not sure you can get a Ronald McDonald costume in linen...


 
Posted : 18/07/2016 8:28 am
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CFH - where do you buy really lightweight suits off the peg? Assuming you don't have a personal man in Hong Kong 🙂


 
Posted : 18/07/2016 8:35 am
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Assuming you don't have a personal man in Hong Kong

Only cheapskates use HK, the rest of us use the family Tailor in Saville Row.

However, as he was busy, my lightweight suit, for use in hot countries, came off the peg from Rohan....


 
Posted : 18/07/2016 8:37 am
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I'm taking Mrs Zip up to London to have lunch.

I can't believe that in the 21st century to be allowed the honour of paying to eat someone's food I have to dress up as if it is winter

Whilst in principle I agree with you, it does sound like you've chosen the restaurant - other eateries are available

I would advise not taking the tube, it will be hotter than the face of the sun. Walking will be coolest


 
Posted : 18/07/2016 8:47 am
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Walking will be coolest

I'm sure said establishment has somewhere for your driver to wait.


 
Posted : 18/07/2016 8:49 am
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Worst.
Humblebrag.
Evah.


 
Posted : 18/07/2016 8:50 am
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Quite. I spend plenty of time wearing a suit in very hot climes (US, Asia, etc.) Nice lightweight, obviously. Haven't died to death yet.

If the OP is like 90% of men in the UK we only have 1 suit - used for all occasions. 🙂


 
Posted : 18/07/2016 8:50 am
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1 suit!


 
Posted : 18/07/2016 8:51 am
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http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/i-hate-wearing-a-suit
However I will go into Marks today and try on a linen suit. Even if it's really comfy I still will have to wear shoes.
I shall be expecting Michel Roux Jnr to cook my dinner in a top hat and tails.


 
Posted : 18/07/2016 8:55 am
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Le Gavroche. You lucky sod, been once, stunning.


 
Posted : 18/07/2016 9:01 am
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my lightweight suit, for use in hot countries, came off the peg from Rohan..

When my dad lived in Australia he swore by Rohan suits to make the heat bearable when he had to dress smart...


 
Posted : 18/07/2016 11:42 am
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I briefly went to school in a very warm country. If the temperature exceeded 35 degrees, I was allowed to remove my blazer and tie.


 
Posted : 18/07/2016 11:46 am
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HK suits are a false economy nowadays. Trading on bygone reputation.


 
Posted : 18/07/2016 11:48 am
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Surely they have air-con in which case hardly a big deal. Dress code says they allow jeans, so you only need a jacket.


 
Posted : 18/07/2016 12:19 pm
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Posted : 18/07/2016 12:21 pm
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My mistake is buying summer suits when it's not actually that hot outside, so I think something will be light enough. But it isn't 🙁


 
Posted : 18/07/2016 12:22 pm
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I simply refuse to go anywhere where I'm TOLD what I should wear. If the occasion is fitting (work, wedding etc) then fine. I have no issue looking smart. I wouldn't go to a posh dinner in shorts and Birkenstocks but I'd see no reason why lightweight trousers and a nice shirt sleeved shirt wouldn't be appropriate if it was hot. If it wasn't, I'd probably tell them to poke it.


 
Posted : 18/07/2016 3:13 pm
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You always have a choice. You just choose not to go there

Part of the challenge is your idea of nice trousers and nice shirt is different to everyone elses. I guess a jacket is a bit of a leveller (to a point)

I CBA with them either, but I too have a choice 😀


 
Posted : 18/07/2016 3:28 pm
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I like my customers to feel as happy as possible while they are spending their money. I will entertain their kids while mum shops, look after their dog so it doesn't get distressed outside and I'll happily hoover up the mud they traipse in after they've been to the park.
We will be eating at lunchtime in the summer. I would want my restaurant to have a happy,comfortable atmosphere not have half my clientele counting the seconds til they can leave and get comfortable.
Yes ,it is a posh restaurant but for most of their customers it's nothing special ,just like my local cafe is to me.
The scruffy bastards I encountered at Claridges ,who while fulfilling the dress code also made a complete mockery of it. My gardening clothes have less creases in them.
Yes, that gentleman has a pair of long trousers and a collar on but he also has his laptop on the table while ramming his very expensive dinner down his gob.


 
Posted : 18/07/2016 4:15 pm
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This man

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should be your model for the day.

Pierre Trudeau, when prime minister of Canada, was one of the most suave human beings on the planet. He also got away with wearing a suit with sandals in the House of Commons, and doing a mischievous pirouette behind her majesty, the Queen's back when she visited Canada.

So, just generally cool, and your precedent for getting away with cheeky combinations.


 
Posted : 18/07/2016 4:34 pm
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I have to dress up

Are you 12?


 
Posted : 18/07/2016 7:28 pm
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Over on mumsnet there's an AIBU that goes something like....

"to think that, since DH has after 20 years of me suffering his obsession with pushbike a decided at last to book at table at La Gavroche, he wouldn't behave like a teenager when it comes to dressing for the occasion. I mean, he can wear his Aldi cycling shorts and that smelly "love me love my bike" (bleurgh) t shirt for the other 364 days of the year...."


 
Posted : 18/07/2016 8:29 pm
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Yes ,it is a posh restaurant but for most of their customers it's nothing special ,just like my local cafe is to me.

Have to book 3 months in advance for your local greasy spoon do you?

Carry the jacket, put it on just before you arrive. The restaurant is downstairs, air conditioned and very comfortable. Don't be such a child.

The finest dining experience of my life, by miles, in every respect.


 
Posted : 18/07/2016 9:49 pm
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They had better not put own brand sauce in a Heinz bottle.


 
Posted : 18/07/2016 9:53 pm
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The scruffy bastards I encountered at Claridges ,who while fulfilling the dress code also made a complete mockery of it. My gardening clothes have [s]less[/s] fewer creases in them.
Yes, that gentleman has a pair of long trousers and a collar on but he also has his laptop on the table while ramming his very expensive dinner down his gob.

But who are we to judge? 8)


 
Posted : 18/07/2016 9:58 pm
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Anyway I bought an unlined cotton jacket today for £50 just to keep the clothes nazis happy.


 
Posted : 18/07/2016 10:06 pm
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I don't mean to judge, each to their own and all. But I can't help but despair a little at the state of affairs we've got ourselves into which necessitates the purchase of a new [i]coat [/i]in order to be allowed to have lunch. Doubly so when it's 28'C outside.

Me, I'd be finding the nearest Wetherspoons. Curry and a pint for a fiver, job jobbed and I can wear shorts and Birkies.


 
Posted : 19/07/2016 8:13 am
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You are aware of the term 'dressing for dinner'? That doesn't just mean 'not exposing yourself'...for a lot of people, going to a place like that is for a special occasion, as I assume it is for you? So if they are dressed up, don't ruin it for them by going in your best trackies and a wife beater, eh? and then they won't ruin it for you either


 
Posted : 19/07/2016 9:23 am
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It would be very inconsiderate of you to die as no doubt many will feel obliged to turn up for your funeral in suits and the crem can get bloody warm at this time of year.


 
Posted : 19/07/2016 9:30 am
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I know. Lets just change any standards we like when we don't like them.
28 degrees. FFS that warm not hot. Why the fuss?
Short sleeved shirts are not smart, they are worn by Israeli politicians and darts players. bet you don't tuck them in either. That's barely acceptable for those foul things in bright colours and palm trees on them when worn on the beach.


 
Posted : 19/07/2016 11:16 am
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Short sleeved shirts are not smart, they are worn by Israeli politicians and darts players. bet you don't tuck them in either.

A bloke I used to work with pulled out a tie from his draw to go with his short sleeved shirt when a director came round. We offered him a name badge with room for his gold stars 😉


 
Posted : 19/07/2016 11:21 am
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[i]when a director came round.[/i]

I think they're called 'conductors'.


 
Posted : 19/07/2016 12:20 pm
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pulled out a tie from his what Mike? back to the local FB selling pages with you!


 
Posted : 19/07/2016 12:25 pm
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As with most sartorial matters, simply ask yourself... "what would Alan wear...?"

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Posted : 19/07/2016 12:30 pm
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Short sleeves.. I like.


 
Posted : 19/07/2016 12:33 pm
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Well I needn't have worried about being too hot down there. It's a bit chilly. Some of the ladies will have hypothermia!
The food was excellent and I had pigeon breast for the first time. Traps may be set in the garden.
My main was beef cheeks which once again were superb but the veg stole the show. Cheese cake followed which obviously was sublime. Mr Roux came out and asked if our dinners were satisfactory ,which was nice of him. Skinny legs though.
Three courses with water, wine and hot drinks including service £50 each. This is in a restaurant with 2 Michelin stars in the middle of London. Bargain.
I didn't let Mrs Zip see the bill as she must have thought I spent a fortune!


 
Posted : 21/07/2016 4:06 pm
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Whoa, suit I can handle, but tucking in, unless with a full suit, means you are Jeremy Clarkson or really middle aged. If a casual shirt was supposed to be tucked in, it would be attached to a pair of pants / jeans / shorts. Wearing any kind of Hawaiian type shirt tucked in should be punishable in some way it's akin to wearing socks with sandals in my eyes.

How was the dinner, worth the £50 jacket?


 
Posted : 21/07/2016 7:00 pm
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It was a very nice dinner and one i fully intend to repeat......in the winter!


 
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Posted : 21/07/2016 7:35 pm
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I must have an unrefined palate. I prefer a BBQ style restaurant to when I had 7 courses at the chefs table in the Savoy Grill paid for by work.


 
Posted : 21/07/2016 7:40 pm

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