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I’ve not seen a thread about the Christmas Special, and I’ll be honest I never got around to watching any of the latest Doctor’s series, but I did actually rather enjoy this special episode. It got surprisingly dusty towards the end, I must get myself a new cordless vacuum cleaner…
What has been interesting is the number of ‘Easter eggs’ tucked away throughout the show, and there’s a world-famous movie franchise that is now canon, part of the Whovian universe, due to a little known character from very early on in the movie world appears in this special episode.
I’m not interested nor will watch Dr Who but I see it has upset the daily express with its references to COVID partying so I applaud the show for that
Thanks, I didn’t understand her significance CountZero.
The Covid line was moving, glad they went on to do it justice…. not just a throw away line… too important to so many people to have done that. Never forget.
There were a lot of Easter Eggs for a Christmas episode. Anyone else spot Mr Benn's clothes shop?
Being handed a plunger and asking if it was armed was quick and made me smile.
Other than that it's been a bit, well, Dr who.
Anyone else spot Mr Benn’s clothes shop?
Yeah I spotted that one.
I'm not getting on with the new series - not so much Ncuti as the Doctor but more its the appearance, but its too clean and bright (my 9yo daughter says "too Disney"). And I think the stories / writing are too subtle / layered / clever - feel like my simple head is missing the point much of the time, my daughter is losing interest halfway through episodes. Unless I'm trying to think too much into it.
A lot of "Nu Who" has had convoluted plots (and it's hardly new, it'll be 20 years next year since Ecclescake first graced our screens).
Ncuti is growing on me, I wasn't sure at first. But for Rassilon's sake does he have to cry in every single episode? I want to see a Two Doctors episode with 15 and 12, where Capaldi gives him a slap and tells him to stop being a fanny.
To my mind, The Doctor needs to have eccentricity and gravitas. This is where Matt Smith fell down for me, he had the madcap nailed but I could never take him seriously. The whole Pandorica bit where he was shouting down the universe, I felt like the universe would turn round and go "who the hell are you, you're 12." Ncuti is, thus far, going the same way and I'd really like someone to script an episode where he could bare his perfect teeth a little.
I get that RTD is trolling the "that's not my doctor, it's too woke" brigade and I applaud that. There's a shot in SFX magazine from next season where he's wearing a skirt and the bottom half of the Internet is going to eat itself. But it just needs a bit more oomph to balance everything out.
Bang on, Cougar2.
Anyone else spot Mr Benn’s clothes shop?
Yes, a nice little touch, that.
Totally agree with you, Cougar, personally I think Capaldi was one of the best interpreters of The Doctor, very funny, but hints of a seething anger and rage barely kept under control. He reminded me very much of the first Doctor, William Hartnell, who also had that air of barely controlled anger bubbling away underneath. I was nine when I watched the very first episode, and tbh, later series never seemed to capture the menace and danger the first season had.
With hindsight, part of me always thought that Hartnell had a shiv tucked away somewhere to stab bad people with, if he thought he could get away with it.
My kids said "too Disney", too.
Agree on Capaldi being the best.
Much preferred "The Church on Ruby Road" from last year
"Joy to the World" wasn't a fun adventure and the set was dull, a bit like many hotels. A few gags here and there that were wasted through viewers switching off metaphorically and then literally
I just spotted another.
TBH I’m not sure that that any of the the Dr Who Christmas ‘Specials’ have been that special 🙂
I can’t remember them being a ‘thing’ from the original series.
I’m not the target audience thou but I do like Ncuti and hope he gets some good storylines.
The new Star Wars kiddie thing is ace thou 🙂
Wayyyyy too Disney now. Dr Who used to always have a bit of a dark side to it, but now it’s just very saccharine..
Wayyyyy too Disney now. Dr Who used to always have a bit of a dark side to it, but now it’s just very saccharine..
I can't say I disagree, but I'm less convinced that it's Disney's fault. As far as I'm aware they don't have any creative control over the show, I could be wrong. (It's possible of course that it's a deliberate move on the BBC's part to make it more Disney-friendly?)
I'm struggling to think of the last genuinely memorable creepy / (family-)scary episode. Blink perhaps? Or the Empty Child (the "are you my mummy?" one). It doesn't help that we're over-familiar with the classic monsters. Dalek was full on (mostly due to Eccleston's acting to be fair) and that only had the one dalek, yet [Verb] Of The Daleks episodes today are "oh look, it's the daleks again."
In this run I suppose 27 Yards or whatever it was called was creepy-weird, it's a shame that the denouement was garbage. Boom! was arguably pretty tense (and I've just realised that's another Easter Egg, Villengard is a callback to the weapons manufacturer in Boom!). The one with Sutekh wasn't exactly primary colours and Disney princesses. Are we suffering from Mandela Effect here?
Eh, I dunno. You can overthink these things. Over on the Book of Face whenever a post is made about the show, commenters are falling over each other to say that it's woke nonsense and they don't watch it any more which I don't really understand. a) it's always been woke nonsense, certainly since the reboot which was TWENTY YEARS ago, it revels in it, b) if you don't watch it then how do you know, c) if you don't watch it then why are you commenting on fan pages, and d) if your idea of Doctor Who is Jon Pertwee punching Nazis in the face then those episodes still exist. They're all on iPlayer bar the ones which don't actually exist any more and the ones tied up in Intellectual Property arguments.
Not quite thread hijacking, but has anyone heard the rumours about a Star Trek and Dr. Who crossover ? Personally think it will be the Orville but who knows ? (Could that be a pun ?)
No? Source?
Without verification that seems wildly unlikely to me outside of fanfic. Not least because Who is BBC/Disney and Trek is Paramount.
It's plausible that The Orville might satirise either/both I suppose (The Orville is basically the next The Next Generation anyway), but doing it too on-the-nose with Who might be problematic.
Not quite thread hijacking, but has anyone heard the rumours about a Star Trek and Dr. Who crossover ? Personally think it will be the Orville but who knows ? (Could that be a pun ?)
Its been done, there was a comic crossover years ago. Cybermen and Borg were involved for obvious reasons!
Agreed. Definitely a wookie error
:applause:
d) if your idea of Doctor Who is Jon Pertwee punching Nazis in the face then those episodes still exist
meh can’t find them but oddly the Tommorrow people had a neo-nazi story 🙂
Whilst searching I did find out that Gareth Thomas was In Children Of The Stones 🙂
Well, there's this.
Watch to the end.
I’ve seen it, it is er unforgettable 🙁
The bbc vt tapes have a few classic dalek moments and
https://www.youtube.com/embed/DDvGs85GWrI?si=6xv6oKKh9MFPVljv”