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Anyone watching?
Watched the first two Tom Baker ones this afternoon. Wow, they were so bad.
Will start watching new one on iPlayer shortly.
I wish they'd brought back Tom Baker instead of Tennant.
Watched the first two Tom Baker ones this afternoon. Wow, they were so bad.
What?! I watched them yesterday, they were excellent.
I've started with Jon Pertwee...I'm sure I watched these first time round but wasn't even born. Stories are daft but watchable.
I'm hoping BBC keep these on iPlayer long enough to let me watch them all.
Certainly ticks a lot of boxes, also ain't a patch on Ecclestone/Piper, Smith/Gillan, Capaldi/Coleman.
FunkyDunc
Free Member
Started watching, gave up as I don’t want to watch a programme that the bbc are just using to tick every minority box going and be on point with everything
Shouldn't you be on twitter rather than here?
I rather enjoyed #DrWho this evening. Then I enjoyed all the special snowflakes hurling their toys out of their prams over some pronouns
It was rather good that.
Anyone remember when K-9 was as much a star as the Doc?
We made this for school. Me on the left, my smaller mate got in the dalek and could reach down to the floor and push it along on a hidden skateboard... With K9 pulled along after him on a bit of cotton. K9 was on Lego wheels. He could move the sensor/zappy thing with his hands. Happy days!
(We had to live on eggs for a few weeks...)
On viewing Poop's excellent photo, I leave this here with no comment.
Lol, I did have very blonde hair as a kid. As for the red eyes, well.
No.
Only the adults on here when I asked them to Like me.😁
That was a lot of fun. I'm pretty sure the "tick every minority box going" was done primarily to be inclusive (and that is a fine thing to my mind) but with an eye on winding up the kind of people who need winding up, it was pretty over the top and looked to be a bit of a poke in the eye (no not the Meep's eye) to outraged of Tunbridge wells. Who hadn't noticed that this kind of thing has been going on in dr who for decades.
it was pretty over the top and looked to be a bit of a poke in the eye (no not the Meep’s eye) to outraged of Tunbridge wells
There's one of them up ^^^
Looking forward to watching this tomorrow. Even more so after the comments 🌈
Loved it. Went a long way for me in erasing some of Chibnall's arsing about with things.
It ticked a lot of boxes for me (no, not JUST those ones...).
Silly old-school sci-fi fun.
Decent budget and effects (thanks to the House Of Mouse I guess)
Despite that, some (I hope deliberately) gloriously cheap looking monsters.
Some proper heart (for me this is what RTD really brings to proceedings)
Absolutely wilful and wonderful swings in tone.
David Tennant's eyebrows - might even surpass the great Roger Moore in terms of brow acting?
I for one loved the 'hey! look at me!' inclusivity. Worth doing in its own right anyway, and even more so as it will wind up all the reactionary idiots - absolutely certain RTD overplays this precisely for that reason. Plus, Dr Who has pretty much always been a bit woke and that's all good with me since I refuse to see that word as derogatory.
Loved tennant in it......
But
The story line was predictable and dull and I lost interest fairly quickly, Catherine Tate is my least favourite companion and does t really cut it for me. The girl who played her 'teenage' daughter was blatantly in her 20's. Honestly if the Dr wasn't changing again I think I wouldn't bother watching any more. Lucky it's ment for kids and not mid 40's guys like me 😂
The documentary on Ch5 was interesting regarding Terry nation and the less than wholesome aspects of John Nathan-Turner. Peri having to pretend she was from the US.....all the time! Even when interviewed on BBC breakfast. I never realised that!
even more so as it will wind up all the reactionary idiots – absolutely certain RTD overplays this precisely for that reason
yep I’m sure the pronoun stuff was tongue in cheek to wind em right up.
Not sure that the story was that great but tbh we forget it’s for the kiddies with strictly for the ‘dults. 🙂
The girl who played her ‘teenage’ daughter was blatantly in her 20’s
tbh I find this a lot on Elites with the teenagers being obviously not.
There’s one of them up ^^^<br /><br />
FFS yep aliens have rights too 🙄
Quality stirring. Also realising that they have the budget/tech to do stories that once (like this one) were strictly comics or audio only without losing sight of the traditions - old school monster effects.
It’s a simple question, are the characters there for self service or for the story
There was something bugging me about the Meep, particularly the "meep so lonely" stuff. Finally worked it out.
Lucky it’s ment for kids and not mid 40’s guys like me 😂
Out of interest, what age do we think it's aimed at?
My 7yr old really wanted to watch it as there's been loads of build up on CBBC the last week or so.
She sat through it but didn't have a clue what was going on and said it was too bonkers, not really bothered about watching again. Laughed at a couple of bits, but mostly went over her head.
It’s a simple question, are the characters there for self service or for the story
It's instructive that you haven't used a question mark.
@ransos, suppose that’s because it’s more of an opinion than a question.
it’s like the argument that gay characters should be played by gays and for that matter straight by straight, surely it’s shows the quality of the actor/actress that you believe they are who there meant to be. If it requires someone to essentially play themselves. Either the actor or more likely the writing is poor.
again just an opinion, we’re all allowed them
it’s like the argument that gay characters should be played by gays and for that matter straight by straight, surely it’s shows the quality of the actor/actress that you believe they are who there meant to be. If it requires someone to essentially play themselves. Either the actor or more likely the writing is poor.
I know we're going off topic here, but I struggle on this. As in - I can follow and support the 'rules' but I can't actually explain it myself.
A scottish actor putting on an English or American accent - no problem.
A straight actor playing a gay person - not so certain
An able-bodied actor playing a disabled person - also becoming an issue, but Daniel Day-Lewis won an Oscar for doing that, and Eddie Redmayne did similar relatively recently
A white actor using prosthetics and/or make up to play a different ethnicity person - absolutely not (recent need eg: for WSS to cast latin american actors)
Enjoyed that, it was great to see a couple of the old faces back. I did feel a bit sad about Bernard Cribbins RIP!
I wonder what the explanation for the 14th Doctor having the same face as the 10th Doctor will be?
Also, why does The Meep look so familiar?
I used to hide behind the sofa as a kid to watch as I was frightened of the Darleks.
I think the revial shows lack the charm and wobbly scenery of the originals.
Getting a little fed up with it being promoted on every BBC news broadcast.
New haircut have I
shermer75
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Also, why does The Meep look so familiar?
Gremlins?
I enjoyed it, great fun. 🙂
Also, why does The Meep look so familiar?
Demiguise innit.
That's pretty close!
We've been playing catchup on doctor who for the last 4 years and have only just reached the 2nd episode of Jodie Whitaker.
Can we jump forward to the current Tennant stuff without out on missing plot points?
From Chibnall and Whitaker? I'd say yes, especially as it looks like RTD is likely to basically retcon/ignore the big changes from that period.
I just caught up. The subtitle should have been "What Happens When You Give A Huge Budget To A Magnificent Bastard." Has fury erupted on the bottom half of the Internet yet?
There was something bugging me about the Meep, particularly the “meep so lonely” stuff. Finally worked it out.
Also, why does The Meep look so familiar?
The one thing that irked me is that Beep the Meep is not a new character; the Meep originated in the comics (probably not considered canon) and featured in Colin Baker era audio dramas by Big Finish (definitely considered canon). 14 absolutely should have known who Beep was.
However,
it looks like RTD is likely to basically retcon/ignore the big changes from that period.
I read earlier that this new run is considered to be Episode 1 of Season 1; New Who was Series 1-13 and Classic Who was Season 1-26. The iPlayer listing would bear that out, there are three entries with the latest being listed as (2023-).
I wonder how much of Chibnall's era they're going to just toss out. That's no bad thing in my view. It's a show that's been on-air for like 45 years and the fanbase is full of neckbeards going "well, actually, I think you'll find that in episode 3 of the Second Doctor's story 'Attack of the Flowerpot Men' it was established that his blood is in fact invisible" or some such fappery. That's hard to write for (see also: Star Trek). There was a lot of twaddle in Chibnall's run - the whole fugitive Doctor / timeless child storyline was mince of the highest order and needs to be in the bin - despite the best efforts of the actors.
Absolutely bloody loved that!
Ridiculous aliens, brilliantly over acted and beautifully physically realised. Proper emotional stirring up of parents’ feelings by the Donna storyline and her family. So loud it’ll hurt the delicate poor we souls affirmation of minorities. The only thing it missed was one Cribbins‘ masterclass performances in human connection.
So loud it’ll hurt the delicate poor we souls affirmation of minorities.
We had a lass in a wheelchair (which was used as a key plot point👏), a transgender character and a Sikh captain in the space of like ten minutes. I was thinking "he's doing this on purpose to antagonise dickheads, because he can" and reaching for the popcorn before the ****stani vegan lesbians arrived.
Faux fans: "Doctor Who is too woke!!1!"
RTD: "Here's my beer, hold it a minute."
Doctor Who has been 'woke' since the madman in a blue box was a dark grey box. Bit late to the party here, sunshines.
richardkennerley
Lucky it’s ment for kids and not mid 40’s guys like me 😂
Out of interest, what age do we think it’s aimed at?
IIRC, RTD said in the run up to these specials that it's not a kids' show, but it is written for the 8 year old him.
Ah, found it...
Doctor Who is not a children’s show, its new boss has said, despite generations of viewers being reared on the sci-fi series.
Russell T Davies acknowledged that children do watch the series - it is the first programme he remembers watching - and said that the first of three 60th anniversary specials this year will be suitable for family viewing.
But the two subsequent specials will be “dark” and “weird”, with frightening and sometimes violent scenes.
All feature David Tennant making his return as the Doctor alongside Catherine Tate as Donna Noble.
“We do very scary stuff. Some stuff is quite violent. It’s not for children, it’s about children,” explained Davies, who has rejoined the show after stepping down in 2009.
Davies said that he had his eight-year-old self in mind when making the episodes, and the understanding that children do watch, explaining: “It’s not a children’s show but at the heart of it is an eight-year-old watching.”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/doctor-who-is-not-for-children-says-russell-t-davies/ar-AA1jGfAx
Was enjoyable, Davison and Tegan was always "my" Dr & assistant just because I was a kid then but Tennant is on an equal footing as my fav
Whilst Jon Pertwee and Tom Baker are absolute legends in this role.....the old Dr Who's are just unwatchable! They're utter rubbish with the stories not even making sense. The acting and costumes are dreadful, it's all a bit 'hammy' Still good to reminisce with though!
IIRC, RTD said in the run up to these specials that it’s not a kids’ show,
Aside from the "educational" premise which got the show commissioned in the first place, it's never been a kids' show. It's a family show, the target audience is everyone.
Anyone asserting differently just wants to sneer and they are best ignored. I'd wager good money that the vast majority of people whining about adults watching primetime sci-fi aren't tuning in to University Challenge or sitting down to read something from their collection of Chaucer instead.
I just remembered a really long buried memory thanks to this thread.
My old dad used to be a rep for a building company and for whatever reason was on site at a quarry, no doubt somewhere down here in the SE. Must have been the 70's I reckon. I now remembering him saying they were filming a Dr Who episode when he was there.
Definitely fits the MO as let's face it, Dr Who used quarries as cheap alien-scapes a huge amount back then. 😁
The village I live & work in had the pilot episode for what became the Sarah Jane chronicles filmed in it in the late 70's early 80's. People still talk about it now. Fits the bill of a slightly creepy, odd olde English village.
Folks getting wound up about the “wokery” must lead incredibly small lives. I barely noticed it until it was pointed out here. Sikh officer? Check. Wheelchair? Check? Trans? Check. All daily features of my working life. Makes you wonder what sphere their spinning away in….
I did feel a bit sad about Bernard Cribbins RIP!
Wilf the character at least is not dead yet, and there may be a little more to come in the next couple of stories.
If there is... there will be tears.
Enjoyed it. Ongoing story of why he has the same face as before is intriguing and it appears to be that persona as well? It seems like it to me anyway. Tired of arguments about "wokeness" infiltrating absolutely everything. I was going to say more but I'll just agree with and quote @mrlebowski
Folks getting wound up about the “wokery” must lead incredibly small lives. I barely noticed it until it was pointed out here. Sikh officer? Check. Wheelchair? Check? Trans? Check. All daily features of my working life. Makes you wonder what sphere their spinning away in….
I absolutely loved the wokeism too.
Just as I appreciated all the environmental issues raised in the Tom Baker episodes I've been watching from 50 years ago and the inclusivity of the Jodie Whittaker era (apart from the criminal underuse of Yaz's family. They deserved more. As did Yaz herself).
Must admit I missed the first allusions to New Rose being trans, but I've a funny feeling inside of me, Damned fans, that we may not have seen the end of her.
Btw, even the luddites at work who complain about mixed race families being on every advert seemed to like this episode.
And I was a huuuge fan of Capaldi and Whittaker's tenures, genuinely enjoyed the oddness of many of their storylines.
In contrast, I found much of the Matt Smith era to be overblown, pretentious and self referential.
Tennant was far too messianic and melodramatic for me, especially toward the end.
it’s like the argument that gay characters should be played by gays and for that matter straight by straight, surely it’s shows the quality of the actor/actress that you believe they are who there meant to be. If it requires someone to essentially play themselves. Either the actor or more likely the writing is poor.
again just an opinion, we’re all allowed them<br /><br />
I think you’ve missed the point. It’s not that straight people can’t pretend to be gay, cis people act trans, or able bodied people pretend to use a wheelchair in a convincing manner - it’s that if you are an actor from one of those “niches” you likely face a whole load of barriers to getting a role of any type that if some straight/cis/able-bodied person is going to take all the jobs you could have done you are never going to get any work. It’s probably only in the last 10 yrs we’ve seen disabled actors getting roles - but we’ve had disabled characters for decades. Acceptance of gay people, particularly in media circles, is perhaps getting or the point where it’s less of an issue - but you’d be niave to suggest that there’s no discrimination or type casting involved.
Glad to see Tenant back. Still would prefer a gag being used on Catherine Tate. Bring back John Barrowman or Karen Gillan !
Didn't 'get' (or more over, tuened off and stopped watching) the Jodie Whittaker series. Probably the writing.
I'm sure as can be the reason for RTD coming back is that the BBC realised one of their few money spinners was heading for the toilet, so he was brought back with a remit of 'sort this shower of shit out before it's too late'.
For those who's kids aren't scared... sit them down in front of the TV without any other electronic device as distraction, and get them to watch the episode 'Blink'.
I truly believe its one of the best pieces of television ever.
Didn’t ‘get’ (or more over, tuened off and stopped watching) the Jodie Whittaker series. Probably the writing.
Genuinely interested, but what do you reckon was wrong with the writing?
I thought the opening few episodes were really strong, enjoyed the 'Fam', loved the historical stuff, Rosa, Punjab, Witchfinders etc and loved
her chaotic portrayal of a chaotic character.
Hell, I even enjoyed the John Bishop storylines.
For me, "It takes you away" is one of the most memorable stories ever, purely because of it's oddness.
No, not formulaic, but all the better for that.
For those who’s kids aren’t scared… sit them down in front of the TV without any other electronic device as distraction, and get them to watch the episode ‘Blink’.
Ironically, the story with probably the least involvement of the actual Doctor? But yes, the greatest episode of the modern era, closely followed by The Girl in the Fireplace.
the greatest episode of the modern era
You're not wrong but, we have a new contender. That was astonishingly good.
#14 is rapidly approaching #8 as my favourite Doctor.
When RTD trailed that Wild Blue Yonder was 'weird and different' he wasn't wrong.
Bits of it were a bit off tonally for me, but the core idea was great. Dr Who goes cosmic horror. That 8 year old RTD this was written with in mind would have deffo been behind the sofa at times!
Loving RTD's mix of big dark ideas and silliness seeming to be becoming a thing.
Great to see the gammon baiting continue with a non-white Isaac Newton and the Doctor fancying him.
Plus... Wilf!
"My arms are too long".
I watched the episode purely because sections of the internet were complaining about the wokery and wanted to see for myself.
While the woke stuff seemed silly to me and added nothing to the story I think their time would have been better spent complaining about the terrible plot, writing and acting.
While the woke stuff seemed silly to me and added nothing to the story
Did you feel it detracted from it?
terrible plot, writing and acting.
Terrible acting? David Tennant?
Bring back John Barrowman or Karen Gillan !
I'd love to see Gillan back, but Barrowman is not compatible with any sort of inclusivity and wokery. He's long gone.
Cribbins, though? Brilliant.
I thought they had done him a criminal disservice by just saying he was "fine and in a car home" without really dealing, so it was a great surprise to see him once again.
Elder abuse: Leaving Wilf in a garage. Not so wokie now.
I’d love to see Gillan back, but Barrowman is not compatible with any sort of inclusivity and wokery. He’s long gone.
James Marsters on the other hand, that would be a coup.
Oh, that was good. And the last scene setting up the next episode… it got me.
While the woke stuff seemed silly to me and added nothing to the story
I didn't even notice it 🤷
Good to see Bernard 🙂
And we got to see the new doctor, meh hate teasers.
but Barrowman is not compatible with any sort of inclusivity and wokery. He’s long gone.
Bet he wishes he had that strap on Time Machine now 🙂
I didn’t even notice it 🤷
Until I saw posts about it I honestly hadn't thought about it. Was just a funny gag with Isaac Newton, over in a minute. Can't say I even know what Isaac's heritage is anyway and only know he's usually depicted with that long hair.
I didn’t even notice it 🤷
I didn’t either.
Good to see Bernard 🙂
Very.
And we got to see the new doctor, meh hate teasers.
Wait… what?
I stopped watching the rebooted Who at the end of the Smith/Gillan era (my favourite along with the Ecclestone episodes). Just wasn't doing it for me. Thought I'd watch the first new one this morning after hearing it was outraging sections of the internet, despite never really getting on with the Catherine Tate character. Really enjoyed it. Bit too much intrusive music telling you what you should be feeling, but that applies to most British drama. Rainy day off, might watch the second one this afternoon.
Anyone else think that this weekend’s episode was really about…
Caught up with the latest episode last night. I did enjoy the Isaac Newton scientific discovery name joke, (think that avoids ruining anyone's fun who hasn't already seen it)
Was the sound bad just on the iPlayer? Could hardly hear the dialogue over the background sound effects and music during any hectic scenes.
Bring back John Barrowman or Karen Gillan !
Hopefully John Barrowman will never work again - grim chap flopping his little chap out at any given opportunity.