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Is it just me?
Addicted to cigs at an early age. Now addicted to her vape, for 5 years.
Can't be bothered to figure out a way of getting a rechargeable vape to work for her, so **** the planet and I'm going to buy single use vapes en masse.
Presumably this person has a phone? That needs to be charged up most days? Jesus ****ing Christ.
I bet she chucks them straight in the bin as well.
Oh, and I see we have a baroness taking the same approach. I wonder if they drink full fat coke because they don't like the (slightly different) taste of low calorie drinks. Or do they just ****ing get on with it because it might be slightly better for you/the planet than the full sugar version.
God, I need another coffee this morning
/grump
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgvw2ydg33o
Disposable vapes... FFS.
We parked at Watford Gap services on the M1 yesterday. There were two of the f***ing things 'disposed' on the asphalt within the surrounding couple of parking spaces. Some people are just scutters.
Yep, **** em.
Zero consideration for the consequences of their own behaviour.
Lazy pricks.
Disposable vapes can get ****ed but so can diet coke.
If your drinking so much that the sugar in a tin of coke is an issue you need to be drinking less coke not substituting it for another chemical.
id still be out on a road somewhere if it wasn't for the immediate restorative power of a full fat coke.
It hasn't occurred to her that rather than binge her way through disposable vapes she could keep her stash for when she forgets to recharge the electric one.
If your drinking so much that the sugar in a tin of coke is an issue you need to be drinking less coke not substituting it for another chemical.
Ah yes, "chemicals." The clarion call of scientists everywhere.
The difference is, drinking diet coke (or full-fat coke for that matter) only affects the drinker, where as smoking / vaping affects everyone else around them.
Round here there's a volunteer group of litter pickers, they collect bags and bags of other people's crap. Last week the high street was spotless after they'd been down it, today it's ankle deep in fag ends again. Smoke if you must, I don't really care so long as you're downwind, but don't just ping the butt across the pavement when you've finished you ****ing scruff.
Is there really not a refundable deposit scheme?
When I get made PM, you'd have to pay a £1 deposit for them, refundable if you hand them back for recycling.
Don't worry, though, cos there'll also be a £1 refundable deposit on every fag butt too.
While we are at it, £1 per Maccy D's etc. packaging item too.
If that impinges on your civil liberties, then you are more than welcome to toss them on the ground, and let the homeless or other enterprising people collect them and take them back for the deposit return.
I did read that story on the BBC and wonder how she had the audacity to let herself be interviewed about the most first world of first world problems. I'd be ashamed to admit it if I was in her shoes. Complaining about the metallic taste of rechargeable vapes ffs.
I'm in a right judgy mood today...
Disposable vapes can get ****ed but so can diet coke.
If your drinking so much that the sugar in a tin of coke is an issue you need to be drinking less coke not substituting it for another chemical.
So as someone who has a medical condition that means I can't normally drink full fat drinks like Coke whenever I feel like it (type 1 diabetic), I should have to do without completely because you think anyone who drinks it is not as perfect as you?
Well given that wasn't mentioned by the op.... You and I both know He was not thinking of diabetics when he wrote that as his comparison to vaping.....
He even said it was people saying they wouldn't drink it due to the different taste....
Is it just me?
No, I saw this and despaired that such people exist. Not that she vapes, I got hooked on it during a low point in my life, but that she refuses to use a reusable one.
Some liquids are a bit rough but there are plenty that are just the same as a disposable, and not only is there less waste but it costs a fraction of the disposables.
Stockpiling disposables is ridiculous, as is agreeing to be in the news saying that you are.
Cougar you always come on to dismiss people's concerns about the quality of what we consume. Yes everything is technically a chemical. We get it but it's pretty obvious these days that some types of foods are better for us than others and generally speaking the ones that are least medaled with and contain chemicals that are closer to those found naturally are going to be better for most people.
There are now multiple studies showing the negative side affects of artificial sweeteners but by all means keep chowing down on that shit if it makes you happy.
"With everything else going on in my life, what if I forget to recharge my vape? And then I wake up one morning without a vape
Maybe buy 2 rechargeable vapes and keep one on charge whilst the other is in use?
Cougar you always come on to dismiss people's concerns about the quality of what we consume. Yes everything is technically a chemical.
Do I? I'm all for people questioning the quality of what they consume, I'm not dismissing that at all. I'm less enamoured with folk making shit up.
Everything isn't "technically" a chemical, that's just weaselly Special Pleading. Everything is a chemical. Water is chemicals. The air you breathe is chemicals. Your blood is chemicals.
We get it but it's pretty obvious these days
If there's one area where nothing is obvious it's food science. Diet advice changes with the wind. I lost track, is butter good or bad for us this week?
There are now multiple studies showing the negative side affects of artificial sweeteners
Artificial sweeteners are one of the most tested foodstuffs on the planet, largely because of the "ooh chemicals" narrative. I'll take a diet soda over one that's a third sugar any day because I'm quite fond of the teeth I have left.
The negative affects of artificial sweeteners are a) a laxative effect if you go overboard and b) there is arguably an increase in appetite because your body thinks it's getting sugar but isn't.
If you have other studies proving other effects, I haven't seen them so please feel free to share.
I'm in a right judgy mood today...
Your reaction was milder than mine!
Other easy solutions power bank or a plug/usb cable.
I'll take a diet soda over one that's a third sugar any day because I'm quite fond of the teeth I have left.
As it happens, I just prefer the mouth feel of the "artificially" sweetened stuff. It's less syrupy and cloying.
Maybe buy 2 rechargeable vapes and keep one on charge whilst the other is in use?
Roughly how long does it take to recharge a vape enough to get one use of it anyway?
When I get made PM, you'd have to pay a £1 deposit for them, refundable if you hand them back for recycling.
When I was a kid all drink bottles, including milk, were glass and had a refundable deposit - we’d go hunting for bottles that stupid people had chucked away and take them to the shop for the refund; it bumped up our pocket money no end!
Wasn’t there a pop song once called “Little Douche Flute”?
She gets on the BBC because she's spent £80 on stuff she, by design, is going to throw away. Stockpiling rubbish.
Someone needs to make a horror film where technology fails but from the viewpoint of a instabanging, eyebrow ironing, vaping, bisto tanner.
Do I? I'm all for people questioning the quality of what they consume, I'm not dismissing that at all. I'm less enamoured with folk making shit up.
That's quite funny really.
Someone needs to make a horror film where technology fails but from the viewpoint of a instabanging, eyebrow ironing, vaping, bisto tanner.
A remake of Threads brought up to date would be most excellent. Birkenhead could be an ideal location, and wouldn't need much work to turn it into a set.
Wasn’t there a pop song once called “Little Douche Flute”?
Was that the one by The Vapors?
did read that yesterday, the main thought was slow news day, then i felt sorry for whoever it was that had to type all that.... did you get to the part about the 65yo baroness...........if the whole lot was pure fabrication then i feel less sorry for the author
If that impinges on your civil liberties, then you are more than welcome to toss them on the ground, and let the homeless or other enterprising people collect them and take them back for the deposit return.
This is what happens in Germany with cans/bottles (and in 1980s Scotland where foraging for Barr’s deposit bottles was a common childhood pastime)
I do think we should be selling deposit schemes as litter prevention rather than environmental measures, as the gammony/Reform element are more likely to go with it.
I hate the fact that a return scheme in Scotland was scuppered by UK parties, it may not been perfect but it'd better than no scheme.
Yes butter is good for you in moderation. The low fat campaign was pushed during the onset of convenience foods and large food companies wanting to sell low fat diet (usually higher in sugar) products and before current understanding of how harmful high sugar and simple carb diets are when combined with sedentary lifestyles.
Yes knowledge does change constantly and can be very confusing and frustrating for those who don't have the time or will to follow the latest data and big food businesses lobby very hard to protect their interests as did the tobacco industry in it's time.
As requested
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10144565/
Thanks.
I read a couple of those. The BHF concludes that whilst the sample pool was reasonably large, the study itself and its conclusions are weak (and I note that there is no mention of sugar by comparison, in the article at least). The Guardian is talking about processed food, not sweeteners.
Yes knowledge does change constantly and can be very confusing and frustrating for those who don't have the time or will to follow the latest data and big food businesses lobby very hard to protect their interests as did the tobacco industry in it's time.
That's broadly what I was trying to say, yes.
I'm not a Dietitian (though my old cat was an official Nutritionist, I registered her for a laugh in order to prove a point). But the goalposts are constantly shifting, it's unsurprising that people are confused. Raw food diet, keto diet, plant-based diet...
You hit the nail on the head though with "moderation," I think that's critical to the conversation. Some studies (IIRC, don't quote me) show that the occasional glass of red wine is good for your health; dropping three bottles a night, probably not so much.
@onehundredthidiot I think you mean “the Tories”, partly as we were meant to be getting a national scheme. Of course as Labour McSweeney thinks that the environment is a wedge issue in the red wall (it isn’t) the chances of it being dusted off is close to nil.
No, the red Tories were happy to scupper it too.