[Closed] Don't slam the door on your way out, Tyson.

He obviously has mental health issues and possibly addiction issues. Don't wish him ill but happy not to see him in a ring again.

His mental health and possible addiction issues seem to come from his ignorance, arrogance and success. It is harder to feel sympathy than it would be for someone who finds themselves in the same situation through desperation and hardship.

I don't think mental health issues are all that choosy.

I don't think you need to be a particularly nice bloke to get in a ring and try to stove the other blokes face in. I also wonder if being slightly unhinged is a benefit - where some folks might stop punching, he just keeps going.

Of course he's going to disappear, until he comes back out of retirement for a cash/fame/notoriety/promoter/Rocky-boxset reasons. I'm not sure that he's consulted far and wide and thought this one through properly.

I predict a channel 5 epic, 'my big fat gypsy mental health issues'....

Of course he was going to retire. He would have been stripped of his titles anyway.

But, you're right though, he hasn't thought it through.

Yeah, depression, shame really. Easy fella to dislike from his public persona.
Still one of the biggest sporting achievements by a Brit in recent years and I rate that, rather than his value as a celebrity.
And for that, I call "sod off" to the OP. And how the f can he be "undeserving"? He beat Klitschko in the ring. Unlike a lot of champions getting handed a belt.

Good on Nathan Cleverly for winning the light heavy title on the weekend. Too many Briish fighters stepping up and losing at the mo. Good fight too, eh sasquatch? or were you too busy reading Hello! magazine to see it?

Forgive me for having an opinion DezB, I'll be sure to reach expert levels before commenting.
By the way the Juncos are a down to earth family.

I'll miss him in the ring, I really will. I've been following his rise for years and feel he's a very underrated fighter, it's no easy job to go and comprehensively beat a Klitschko in his own back yard. Was really looking forward to some big fights with him and Joshua being the standout.
I actually met him just before his Chisora fight, we were in Euro Disney and bumped into him with his wife and kids. He took time to chat and get a photo and came across a decent family man who certainly wasn't strutting around looking for recognition.
I hope he gets his head straight, learns from his mistakes and makes a successful comeback.

The Nathan Cleverly title is an odd interim one, good for him though winning a title back. He did take a beating a while back so has done well to come back.

[i]Forgive me for having an opinion DezB[/i]

Just expressing mine in return honey-pie.

[i]He did take a beating a while back so has done well to come back.[/i]

Yep, Clev's always in good fights, so I like him. Did you see the Braemer fight? I got the feeling Braemer would actually be the one to come on stronger in the later rounds.

Clev's always in good fights,

Assume you never saw the bellow rematch then?

As for fury, good riddance. Although hes probably just spouting rubbish as usual. Shame as i would have loved to see AJ spark him out in under 3.

Just expressing mine in return honey-pie.

[i]Shame as i would have loved to see AJ spark him out in under 3.[/i]

Instead AJ's got to take Joseph Parker out in 1 for the title 😆

Apparently he's changed his mind. Whodathunkit? A similar U-turn happened yesterday when negotiating dinner with our two-year old.

Apparently telling the boxing authorities to suck cock was all a ruse to expose the media.

Hahahaha u think you will get rid of the GYPSYKING that easy!!! I'm here to stay. #TheGreatest just shows u what the Medea are like. Tut tut

He probably believes it 🙄

He's certainly got some issues 😆

Looks like he's got substantial PED issues to negotiate. I suspect these can be dealt with in boxing at his level.

DezB - Member

Yep, Clev's always in good fights, so I like him. Did you see the Braemer fight? I got the feeling Braemer would actually be the one to come on stronger in the later rounds.

Rematch seems right as they are decently matched - Cleverly shouldn't be going near the other belt holders in the division.

If Fury beat Klitschko in a rematch i'll say fair enough, he deserves it. But as it stands he seemingly beat a bloke who didn't prepare for a fight properly. Bit like when Rahman beat Lewis, then got pummeled in the rematch.

Oops.

Appears he's not retiring after all, was just having a bit of a giggle....

The comments about this guy's clear struggles with mental health issues just shows how low the standard of some posters on STW have got. It's been going downhill for along time but i think this is the final straw. I don't think I'll be coming back.

And you can * my * if you don't like it.

You are theothertysonf and I claim my £5!!

*only joking*

Seriously, seems to me he could be a pretty good boxer given the right leadership but his 'issues' seem to mean that the right kind of management and trainer stay away or aren't considered by him. Sure, we want personalities but his is beyond that, if the rough edges could be smoothed off, leave the feistiness but remove the unacceptable parts he'd be a great draw.

I like him, or probably more acurately I am entertained by him. He gets right on peoples tits (like some boxers always have) but in a new interesting way. And he beat Klitchko no mean feat. Hope he fights again and at his best. For the first time in ages heavyweight was looking interesting. I'd love to see AJ vs Haye, Klit vs Fury and then the winners against each other.

Was he homophobic bible basher before he had mental health issues ? Maybe getting punched in the head for a living isn't the best career choice for someone with mental health problems.

Appears he's not retiring after all, was just having a bit of a giggle....

I know he's made some pretty offensive/dubious statements over the years, but think you've got to take them with a pinch of salt. Boxing is essentially getting paid to take punches to the face; the end goal being to get in, make as much money as possible, try and create a legacy, and then get out before you suffer any long term effects. As such, a lot of boxers adopt a persona similar to WWE characters, as ultimately they need to maximise PPV sales. Malignaggi's done a few interviews on the subject. Tyson doesn't genuinely believe 90% of the comments he makes - it's all publicity. Not excusing it, but you can understand why he makes such comments - it's to set him apart from the rest of the heavyweights by playing the Pantomime villain.

Re: his current status - he's clearly suffering from a few mental health issues, and just needs to be given time and space to recover, like any other human.

He beat Klitschko in the ring.

I'll await the nadrolone test outcome before declaring that one too loudly. If he fails I suspect he'd be stripped of the belt and the victory nullified surely?

Strange one, Fury. I quite like his antics, winding up opponents with irreverence. The "you got beat by a fat bloke" before grabbing a handful of blubber and waving it around did make me laugh.
On the other hand, he's a misogynistic, homophobic bigot.
We all have our good and bad points I suppose.

Anyone remember [url= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Ayala,_Jr. ]Tony Ayala Jr[/url] (from the '80s)? You don't have to like a boxer to find him exciting to watch! Ayala was a complete psycho.

[quote=DezB ]Anyone remember Tony Ayala Jr (from the '80s)? You don't have to like a boxer to find him exciting to watch! Ayala was a complete psycho.

I'll see your Ayala and raise you an Ike

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ike_Ibeabuchi

Yeah! Want to see the Tua fight now!

I've got some Ayala fights on video - he knocks one guy down then actually spits on him 😯

[quote=DezB ]Yeah! Want to see the Tua fight now!

Back when heavyweights actually fought instead of spoiling

That was one hell of a fight! Incredible. Judges watched a different fight to the one I did though.

Back when heavyweights actually fought instead of spoiling

Tony Ayala, Jr - was a convicted rapist and repeat sexual assault offender of young woman / girls.

Ayala was a bad egg no doubt

Ike makes Fury look sane. What happened to his comeback?

I could tolerate Fury* if he was reasonably exciting to watch but hes not, hes horrifically boring inside the ring and I still think hes massively overated. Hes had one good performance ever, against a Wlad who lets face it, was absolutely dire.

*although his homophobic comments are bang out of line

I'll await the nadrolone test outcome

mitsumonkey

Funny thing is though if you stood the boxers side by side and had to guess which one was on the gear just by looking at them

You'd guess correctly either way.

Edwin Valero, another nutter

Tyson Fury made me chuckle

I know he's made some pretty offensive/dubious statements over the years, but think you've got to take them with a pinch of salt.

What's the Edinburgh Defense? Googled it and one of the results was this forum?

Not defending Fury's comments, I just think there's a difference between stating something with genuine animosity rather than just attention seeking.