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[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22141372 ]Andrew Marr[/url]


 
Posted : 15/04/2013 10:27 am
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Huh.

Marr explained he had fallen into the "terrible" trap of believing what he read in newspapers, which encouraged people to "take very intensive exercise in short bursts - and that's the way to health"

It's still true.


 
Posted : 15/04/2013 10:33 am
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take very intensive exercise in short bursts

He's right. I used to do that as a teenager. I almost went blind!! 😯


 
Posted : 15/04/2013 10:36 am
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which bit Molgrips?

"take very intensive exercise in short bursts - and that's the way to health"

unless you have some existing conditions, or joint damage etc.
One Size Does NOT fit all


 
Posted : 15/04/2013 10:38 am
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It's probably the most time-efficient way to improve fitness. I'd have thought it obvious that you need a certain minimum level of fitness before you start doing Tabata (or similar) intervals though because they are extremely taxing on the body.


 
Posted : 15/04/2013 10:43 am
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what a load of old rubbish!


 
Posted : 15/04/2013 10:44 am
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unless you have some existing conditions, or joint damage etc.
One Size Does NOT fit all

Yes, of course. Generally it's still a good way to general fitness and age-defying for the general population. However, anyone can have freak medical issues like that.

Re general fitness - I seem to remember seeing Marr doing some running or something before so I think he was generally fit. He just had a susceptibility to this sort of thing. My unfit wife did some sprint intervals last night on foot. She's not dead so far.


 
Posted : 15/04/2013 11:06 am
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Generally it's still a good way to general fitness and age-defying for the general population.

It may well be, but afaik we don't yet have sufficiently big data-sets to really support that view. We have some very vocal supporters, a bit of research and a lot of people who want a quick fix to health. But that's not quite the same thing. Plus I have a feeling that the majority of the population have no real idea about the intensity required in HIT.


 
Posted : 15/04/2013 11:13 am
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It's probably the most time-efficient way to improve fitness. I'd have thought it obvious that you need a certain minimum level of fitness before you start doing Tabata (or similar) intervals though because they are extremely taxing on the body.

What do you reckon the minimum level of fitness is though? I'm not very fit and I fancy giving this a bash. It's all relative anyway - I walked up Helvellyn last week without too much bother, which a few people I know would have really struggled with/not managed. But I'm really unfit compared to your average fell-runner.

It seems to be suggested that even if you don't quite do it to full intensity it will still be beneficial?


 
Posted : 15/04/2013 11:15 am
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Generally it's still a good way to general fitness and age-defying for the general population. However, anyone can have freak medical issues like that.

Which is why sane people and those who want to avoid causing problems like this don't preach a 1 size fits all approach to fitness and exercise. As with anything we could do a my study/your study top trumps game but sometimes different things are better for different people. It's also why there is some merit into seeing your GP before embarking on a major change in fitness regime. Was there not stats of middle aged men taking up Squash and the having heart attacks fairly soon after?


 
Posted : 15/04/2013 11:17 am
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What do you reckon the minimum level of fitness is though? I'm not very fit and I fancy giving this a bash. It's all relative anyway - I walked up Helvellyn last week without too much bother, which a few people I know would have really struggled with/not managed. But I'm really unfit compared to your average fell-runner.

It seems to be suggested that even if you don't quite do it to full intensity it will still be beneficial?

I would just ease into it and increase the intensity gradually. The first time I did tabata intervals on a rower, I was physically sick afterwards and shook like a shitting dog for about 20 mins. It was unlike anything I'd done before. But my body adapted quickly - it's still very hard work and exhausting but I don't feel like I'm going to die any more. I noticed big fitness gains in a matter of weeks.


 
Posted : 15/04/2013 11:24 am
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The people who read that article and decide to avoid such exercise were never going to do it in the first place even if they'd thought they might.


 
Posted : 15/04/2013 11:39 am
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My unfit wife did some sprint intervals last night on foot. She's not dead so far.

I can see you trained in Epidemiology... 😉


 
Posted : 15/04/2013 11:43 am
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and this is why when folk suggest intervals to someone returning to cycling after a layoff i suggest they dont do intervals and just get some basefitness.


 
Posted : 15/04/2013 12:06 pm
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What do you reckon the minimum level of fitness is though?

IANAD but I suspect there's no minimum level of fitness as such. You just need to know if you have any underlying fitness issues like a weak carotid or whatever. The problem is, many of these things you won't be able to find out I suspect.


 
Posted : 15/04/2013 12:07 pm
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The highest intensity exercise I've done is a bleep test. I was sick; never again.


 
Posted : 15/04/2013 2:05 pm
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Didn't Mr. Marr damage his carotid artery which precipitated the stroke?


 
Posted : 15/04/2013 3:27 pm

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