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And to think I was genuinely conflicted about exercising for longer than an hour!
I think that's what we're all thinking variations on this, right now.
Like most people I've not seen my parents for nearly two months. Mrs Binners mum is in the hospital with a fractured hip after a fall last week. Neither she or her dad can go and visit her which is causing a lot of upset for everyone
And Dominic Cummings thinks he can do what he likes, can he?
Apparently so.
What makes me feel particularly murderous towards him is the arrogant manner in which he dismisses it, as if nobody should dare have the audacity to question anything he does.
Line them up against a wall, shoot the lot of them. We could kickstart the economy by selling tickets as pay per view event. I’ll chuck in £50 to see it, I’ll pay £5k to participate.
Anyone else?
Right now, I'd quite happily go full Tarantino on him with a blowtorch and a pair of pliers
The Labour Health Ministers’ decision to sit in a park eating chips was not
Jesus wept.
The state of this.
My kids haven’t seen any grandparents this year. Zoom and FaceTime only. We’re only the “little people” though. Different rules for some. Still… Cummings will have people ranting about the “elites”, and using that when getting us falling in behind the common folk like Johnson and Mogg before you know it…
And now I really want chip shop chips again…
I don’t have anything to add to what’s already been said, but this has made me more angry than all the other cock ups from this government. I’m speechless
WWSTW do - Cummings in an elevator
Cummings went to Durham school, from their website;
Our unofficial motto at Durham School is ‘Confidence for Life’. We believe this confidence grows from having a clear set of guiding principles: - Moral Integrity, Ambition, Respect and Kindness.
I think he missed that lesson...
The reason they can't lose Cummings is twofold
Johnson is a walking policy vacuum, he's barely coping with a weekly PMQs session , without Cummings to the his shoes he'd be stuffed.
the other problem is that the minute Cummings goes, the next question Johnson is asked is when he knew & why he didn't sack him sooner & Johnson has no plausible excuse, Starmer will mail him on it.
The cabinet & the rest of his MPs all know this, Johnson & Cummings were ill for 2 weeks & the government were paralysed with indecision
It wouldn't bring down the government or even Johnson immediately, but it would be a serious blow
With brexit talk collapse.just weeks away & attempts to reopen country already looking desperately behind schedule
WWSTW do – Cummings in an elevator
A tad messy but ultimately fair. Personally a 9mm to the back of the head - I’d not waste that much energy.
Looking at the mood on here, beginning to think that this is one of of those occasions where the government has totally misread the public’s strength of opinion.
Suspect it will linger, even if Dom doesn’t go.
Won’t play well in the marginals where the ‘them and us’ perception of the Tories was briefly overlooked in December.
Maybe a bit of an Iraq moment for the Tories...
Linked to my post above...
Also find it amusing to think of the situation where Dom’s mega-pollsters and analysts have to report back to him that the appalling opinion polls in marginals and key demographics are a result of the person instigating those very polls 😉
The spectator has gone in hard Spectator
That's actually quite a well articulated piece.
And the Spectator... Wow.
Looking at the mood on here, beginning to think that this is one of of those occasions where the government has totally misread the public’s strength of opinion.
Out of curiosity, I read the comments in The Sun earlier (who initially pushed the story out of sight). It was not going down well even there. People are furious and rightly so.
mehr - thanks for link to Spectator article - that is quite something!
@mehr Which is interesting, as Cummings’ wife is the commissioning editor.
The suspicion remains that somewhere, deep in their hearts, the cabinet’s collective reaction to this scandal – for such it is – is predicated on a still darker appreciation of an unwelcome political reality. Namely that the Prime Minister, whatever his other talents, is not actually up to the job of running the country in a moment such as this. I suspect they know this too and this leads them to a situation in which they decline to concede anything for fear that a single concession might topple the entire rickety edifice.
😮
The reason they can’t lose Cummings is twofoldJohnson is a walking policy vacuum, he’s barely coping with a weekly PMQs session , without Cummings to the his shoes he’d be stuffed.
This. Asking Boris to sack DC is like asking Emu to sack Rod Hull.
It might linger on a bit, there'll be some distraction politics but in many respects this might just work out OK for the Government. Asking things about death rates in care homes, lack of PPE for NHS staff, why lockdown was late in coming and any of the other numerous ways the Government have ****ed this up right from the start has now been replaced by
"will you ask DC to resign?" (No)
"will DC be fired?" (No)
and similar questions. It's bought them soem breathing space from the rest of the lorry crash that's summed up everything so far by pointing out the car crash happening a junction up the motorway.
My MP is that utter, utter cock rees-mogg, I wonder what response he would give if I email him?
Posted 1 hour ago
From the look of him, auto reply telling you to send any correspondence on parchment, written by quill, sealed with wax and delivered by your valet. Nanny will read it to him during bath time.
The next PMQs are certainly going to be interesting.
Suspect it will linger, even if Dom doesn’t go.
I hope he doesn't. He's become the symbol of everything that's wrong with this arrogant and incompetent government. The longer he's around the more they'll be damanged. It's a simple equation that he's not immune to though, and he'll be gone the moment the balance tips from being an asset to a liability.
As Kryton pointed out, the Speccie are hedging their bets - one pro-Cummings article, one anti.
Looking at the mood on here, beginning to think that this is one of of those occasions where the government has totally misread the public’s strength of opinion.
I just took one for the team and had a look at the comments on the Daily M**l. I sorted by 'most recommended', sifted down through well over a hundred and couldn't find one even remotely supportive of Cummings or the govt as a whole.
, I’ll pay £5k to participate.
Which side does 5k get you on? I'll go 7.5k but only for the less bullety side
Asking Boris to sack DC is like asking Emu to sack Rod Hull.
😆
I admire the positivity of some on near, but I state again what I said on page 1, Cummings is going nowhere, at least not until Brexit is done.
This will be ignored, swept away and dismissed.
ratherbeintobago - you beat me to it.
Of the two Spekkie articles, the Alex Massie one carries more weight as he is the Scottish editor; Melanie McDonagh who penned the other is a 'contributor'.
As cummings wife, Mary Wakefield, is a commissioning editor there could be an 'interesting' discussion between her and Massie.
Did she commission McDonagh's piece?
As for cummings future after his departure - a bit like steve bannon, washing around the political fringes?
Does Starmer think he's won the lottery? johnson's ineptitude and lying; now this.
That spectator article is not going in hard in any way - key paragraph:
It doesn’t even matter if what he did was appropriate or sensible or a reasonable means by which an awkward or complicated situation might best be managed. All that could be true and it wouldn’t change a thing. Perception is sometimes more important and here the perception is that there is one set of rules for government insiders and another, quite different, set of rules for everyone else. That is not just the perception, either, for it appears to be the reality too and will remain so, and be understood as such, for as long as Dominic Cummings remains in post. You may sympathise with his predicament – an unwell wife, a small child – all you like and it doesn’t change a thing.
I frickin hate the Spectator from its meally mouthed name right down to its lickspittle staff and if fence sitting was an olympic sport it would have an unbroken run of gold.
A leopard never changes its spots
It'll never be dismissed, some of the sacrifices people have made are crazy
Not everyone got furloughed or still worked and drove 10+ miles a day to ride a bike
it’s not a sacking offence it’s a criminal offence
The criminal bit is arguable. All hangs on how you define "reasonable" in "no person may leave the place where they are living without reasonable excuse."
@frankconway Not sure if Starmer think he’s won the lottery, but between the ineptitude of HMG and his predecessor, the bar is low.
@winston That still looks pretty damning, point they’re making is the perception matters and as long as he’s in post, the perception is bad.
Just seen on Twitter he went to Durham to visit parents a second time.
If this is true about a 2nd trip....
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/dominic-cummings-ignored-coronavirus-lockdown-22075857.amp?
(I reckon that Binners will be payin out...)
🙂
Choose your pastry TJ.... 🙂
If he doesn't go now it will break Johnson's government
From the guardian...
A week earlier Cummings was seen by another witness in Barnard Castle on Easter Day, 30 miles away from Durham, the investigation found. The town, which takes its name from the English Heritage site at its centre, is a popular destination for days out.
He's a lying ****. The Tories are lying ****s.
All those ministers that threw what little credibility they had left under the bus to defend him today, must be fuming that the mirror/guardian were sitting on more allegations 😂😂😂
HOC virtual vote of no confidence in government on Tues, anyone?
All those ministers that threw what little credibility they had left under the bus to defend him today, must be fuming that the mirror/guardian were sitting on more allegations
they gave them the rope the chair, and watched on in utter disbelief !!!!! as the senior members of the cabinet put the noose wrong their necks !
From the above, I doubt he was ever ill. So what exactly was he doing?
It's not true until Laura K denies it
Sadly, even if (when) he goes, he will set up a company whose services will quietly be hired right back at twice his current rates. We won't be shot of him unless he goes to prison.
rope the chair, and watched
Honestly most of the cabinet would have been right into that sort of stuff at their schools anyway.
Watching people sell their souls...
If you sup with the devil, you'll need a long spooooooooooon.
The comments in the sun are something to behold.
Maybe the goverment needs to introduce a Domonic Cummins tracking app.
If the second breach is true, then surely he’s a deadman walking..
Having this lot in government couldn't have come at a worse time, we are living in desperate times and this lot are not up to the job
https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/1264271902081777664?s=19
Our prime minister speaks, and is also correct
Something tells me further revelations about his movements will be coming out over the long weekend. Come Tuesday he'll be hung out by the press and they'll use it to properly rip the government apart.
They've pissed off an awful lot of the public with their handling of this and the press will have a field day on it.
We'll know he's done when his girlfriend Kuenssberg realises he's no longer useful for her career and jumps ship to the other side. I give it until tomorrow morning. She's probably already ringing round her contacts trying to find out who might replace him. It's got all the signs of a classic media stitch up, and the Guardian and Mirror have done an amazing job of it so far. I wonder what's next in the pipeline?
Still confident Binbins?
Mmmmmmmmmmm pastry based goodness *rubs tum*
Still confident uncle Jezza.
This lot are utterly shameless. None of the usual accepted norms apply to them. He won’t jump and they’re too scared to push him.
For a start, to sack him Joris would actually have to come out of hiding, and that’s not happening.
Mmmmm..... pies 😃
Ah he'll stay, lockdowns over anyway.
All the witnesses will be evil lefties who're making it up. But also will be invading his privacy, even though it's all made up and he was never there.
Hmm, not what the police said earlier.
This stinks.
Anyway, I'll give Binners 2-1 on the baked commestibles of his choice.
Gone by Tuesday.
When you've lost The Sun, it's game over.
https://twitter.com/RidgeOnSunday/status/1264274539422388225?s=19
They need to kill this overnight or the lockdown/govt is finished
I reckon DC has a copy of the Russian report squirreled away with orders for it to be released if anything were to happen to him.
I guess Kuenssberg will have to find another government "boaby" to suckle her "breaking news" from now
I hope he's got a hard copy laced with Novichok
I think you’re all being a bit optimistic about what will happen. Private individual goes back to home town so family can help with childcare due to parents showing signs of possible Covid 19. This is how it will be spun. This man is not a politician or even a civil servant. He doesn’t give a monkeys what anybody thinks either. Even if he is sacked as an advisor (doubt that will happen no matter how much the press and the opposition push) how are you going to get Boris not to adhere to his advice?
Boris you must not speak to Dominic in class he’s been a very naughty boy! This man thrives on this sort of stuff, he won’t give a stuff.
@Inbred456 And the day trip to Barnard Castle?
If he’s sacked as an advisor and is still seen hanging around No 10, then PMQs will be… interesting, and as most of the press don’t have much love for Cummings either, the headlines are unlikely to play well.
I agree with the previous poster.
the press seem to hate Cummings,so why would they hold back. They have him and his puppet over the fire on this one and I would be surprised if they let go
...and wouldn't it be nice if the editor of the Spectator called his wife and said " If I wanted fiction I'd ask J K Rowling... now jeff off."
The first revelation could be excused with enough brass neck and lack of scruples. This evening's additions (beautifully played giving him time to lie like **** and his minister flunkies time to makes themselves look like total bellends) makes any further binal excuses look utterly ridiculous.
My only concern - making sure the public does the right thing right now is bigger than being the most winningest at politics. As much as I want to see Cummings reamed out in a way I kind of wish it hadn't come out.
ratherbeintobago
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@Inbred456 And the day trip to Barnard Castle
Jeremy Corbyn in a beanie, L'Abbott pretending to be his wife. Car with false numberplates supplied by Nicola Sturgeon.
There were no bluebells. None.....
So Megamind has been rumbled by an almost classic newspaper sting beautifully, beautifully timed to let him hang himself.
By the very journos "that got Brexit wrong".
It's pretty delicious and really shows that in all this, his own worst enemy is himself. Or rather the huge arrogance he can't help but exude.
My only sorrow is that we have such a symbolic adviser and government during a national crisis.😟
...and where is Poundland Trump?
Working out his maintenance payments?
^^Shagging I would think.
I believe It's his solution to any problem.
@crikey He’d have to work out how many kids he has first.
And has been said before, he’s not a Poundland Trump. He’s a Poundland Berlusconi.
Here's my theory on the 'None of his family spoke to the police.' depends on how you measure his family. Him, his wife and child. Factually correct but....
Lies trip off his tongue as easily as Boris's, actually they are probably the same lies, just a different mouth piece. I see cakes in TJ' s near future. Sorry Binners.
I'm starting to think that the little shyster actually might be sacked over this...
I delved into social media a few minute back (something I only do once a month or so as it's so toxic) and it's fair to say that the mood is scathing.
Hard to see how the attorney general can stay on too, tbh.
tthew
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Here’s my theory on the ‘None of his family spoke to the police.’ depends on how you measure his family. Him, his wife and child. Factually correct but….
Exactly. He did not have sexual relations with his family.
Poopscoop
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I’m starting to think that the little shyster actually might be sacked over this…
One can but dream.
Anyway, properly cheered me up. People will remember this.
You have to wonder if all the muppets (ministers) trotted out to defend the shite are feeling right now? Or do they even realise how stupid they look
Northwind
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Hard to see how the attorney general can stay on too, tbh.
All she had to do was stay quiet....I'm guessing she was following orders to support the little turd. You would like to think she would have known better.
Honestly? How did this bunch come to run the country?
@Northwind That’s making me nostalgic for the days when politicians had a sense of shame and resigned when they’d screwed up (or sometimes just screwed).
ITV news about to start, I'll be tuning in.