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It's almost like Cummings and Boris would rather see the whole party and government collapse before admitting they got this wrong.
Speaking of Farage, I have noticed he has been very quiet about all this.
He's on LBC every evening, sticking the boot in it has to be said.
Contrast this with Cummings not even apologising for running from London with suspected infected people in his car against all advice and instruction… civil duty… just for us plebs…
https://twitter.com/bethrigby/status/1265687594907709452?s=21
https://twitter.com/bethrigby/status/1265688069241335808?s=21
I emailed my MP on Sunday night. He’s Simon Hart snd Sec State for Wales. A more ruddy faced, fox hunting Tory sycophant is hard to imagine.
I resubmitted my email last night and copied it onto a comment section of his FB page.
Nothing. Not a jot of a reply or acknowledgement.
He’s a dick.
BBC are gutless ****ers, Emily Matlis’s introduction was spot on.
It looks to me like they're terrified a lot of people will not comply in light of the Cummings episode.
Well, one good think about the Cummings road trip is that it has opened my eyes to the true nature of this government. I certainly didn't vote for them but didn't see them as complete scum either. Now I do.
'What would Dom do?" is my new mantra to see me through the next few months, as long as i consider it reasonable then pretty much anything could be considered fair game.
Unfortunately, I think that's going to be a lot of people's opinions.
I don't know about everyone else, but I've always found that when I'm arguing with some-one and they tell me it's time to "move on", that always makes me want to drop what ever it is I'm arguing about.
I nearly smashed my radio in when Matt Hancock starting telling us all how we were morally obliged to isolate and not go out if asked just days after he's telling us its all ok to go driving around the country if you have covid and are an incompetent parent.
Lock down is dead, the Gov. is onto a loser and if they keep trawling out the same 3rd rate MPs to repeat the line its not going to improve anytime soon. In terms of British politics this is a new low as no-one wins.
Is there any way for the people to oust the government? Any military types on here fancy instigating a coup?
I don't answer phonecalls from people who are not in my contacts list/private numbers, don't have voicemail, throw every single letter than comes to my house into the bin unopened and have very strict spam filtering on my email account, so good luck getting in touch with me to tell me to isolate. Also.. Cummings.
The 2nd term of chaos with Ed Miliband anyone?
Even with toady Jenkin as chair
Johnson got destroyed at the liason committee, he's all over the place
It's a terrible advert for Eton & Oxford that they managed to produce someone so clueless!
Terrible advert for the UK that he was voted into power!
The desperate need to save Cummings is destroying the credibility of the government just as they need cooperation & the public on side the most.
And Maitlis was bang on in her intro, tragic that the BBC haven't backed her
I know. We’ll tell everyone that they have a ‘civic duty’ and ‘moral obligation’ to comply to our new rules
After spending 5 days rigorously defending the rights of our mate to ignore all that shit and make his own rules up.
I’ll tell you what, little Matty Handjob... why don’t you just **** off?!!
And Maitlis was bang on in her intro, tragic that the BBC haven’t backed her
And dropped from tonights show
I shall distill the collective opinion as follows -
THEY CAN ALL **** OFF... from Matt Hanjob and Dildo "what data?" Harding to Rees Smog to Blow Job to Cum face...
Anyway ethnic cleansing has been enabled- Wetherspoons are going to reopen. Always an upside?
They can stick their track and trace where the sun don't shine, in my nearly 60 years I have never seen such a bunch of incompetent,lying ***** how on earth can we ever take this lot seriously,and if you voted for them shame on you
I nearly smashed my radio in when Matt Hancock starting telling us all how we were morally obliged to isolate and not go out if asked...
It gets more insulting each time. It's our civic duty. Baby robins will die. It'll be your fault. Etc.
Has Maitlis really been dropped? Disgraceful if so....hope whoever's doing it tonight points that out.
And Maitlis was bang on in her intro, tragic that the BBC haven’t backed her
I'm going to stick my neck out and say that while I completely agree with her, she wasn't being impartial, so contravened the rules as currently written.
The problem is the BBC's obsession with balance, including topics which are obviously not balanced. So that is why any article about climate change has a counter argument from an oil industry funded conspiracy theorist.
Time for some socially distanced protests?
How about some non compliance?
Anything, anything to put the wind up these clowns.
So from this Cummings incident, Maitlis is the one who's been reprimanded and removed from post. I can see impartiality breaches, TBF, but equally she was just telling the truth.
How ****ed up is this right now?
She's literally the only person to face any consequences. Absolutely sickening.
Did she write the intro completely herself? I imagined there was maybe a team of people who are all "to blame" for telling it like it is.
Maybe they've all been given the night off in the name of balance....
Time for some socially distanced protests?
How about some non compliance?Anything, anything to put the wind up these clowns
How about anyone who tests positive in the new test and trace system lists Cummings as a recent close contact.
I didn't think she was necessarily the author of her own words on the autocue. I thought that they'd probably have a team meeting in the afternoon and prepare a script based on that. Obviously the follow up questions are all her own.
Unless she's taking responsibility or being scapegoated on behalf of her team
Newsnight is the only political show I watch, besides Jon Oliver. Don't bother with the pressers as Tories make my skin crawl.
The newsnight crew have really hit their stride IMHO, it's way more compulsive viewing than the Paxton days. Maitlis, Watt, Goodall and Barnett are all excellent and fairly balanced as well as sharp and incisive, although obvs not to beeb standards
I’m not expecting Barnett on anytime soon now either. She’s impartial in the ‘wrong’ way as well.
Self censoring is the new self isolating as BBC gives in to government pressure.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/may/27/bbc-switches-emily-maitlis-in-newsnight-episode-over-cummings-remarks
And Maitlis was bang on in her intro, tragic that the BBC haven’t backed her
If they protected her it would just bank some licence fee related punishment down the line. Unfortunately the government has the whip hand.
The perils of being the state broadcaster.
Unfortunately labour cut the bbc's balls off years ago, with the stitched up Hutton report. The Tories have just spent the past 10 years surfing the wave of the previous administrations stupidity.
A really (un) surprising point for me on the liaison committee (and I suppose not strictly Dominic Cummings, should be in the Boris! Johnson! thread...was that he didn't even know about his own Immigration policy. Timms was grilling him about an immigrant family who've accepted the NRPF (not recourse to public funds) rules and are now facing destitution because he's lost his job and what was the PMs thoughts..? well, it appeared his thoughts were: "I've no ****ing clue what your talking about "
I wonder how many Tory MPs will be calling for his resignation at the end of the week, let alone Cummings' ?
Just been on the bbc website to make a complaint about EM being dropped. Seems they are also inundated with complaints about the show so seems the anti bbc mob are out in force.
Do make the effort to counter this.
Takes a bit of finding but do not register under the 'we are experiencing a high number of complaints about Newsnight 26 May' heading.
You need to dig deeper to find the complaints bit.
I wonder how many Tory MPs will be calling for his resignation at the end of the week, let alone Cummings’ ?
Hardly any because they've figured out that credibility doesn't matter any more. Three word slogans and appealing to people's worst inner instincts is far more effective.
We are getting the politicians we deserve. Yay us.🙄
Also submitted a complaint. How any non-prostituted journalist can keep their cool whilst crooks like Bridgen use them to gaslight the nation is beyond me...
Three things stood out for me about the Televised Oversight committee meeting this afternoon.
Boris doesn’t react well to being questioned by women, in full gobble mode when asked about women giving input to guidance
He said he had been banned from setting targets- said as a joke but perhaps quite revealing- who banned him DC perhaps?
But most of all- he doesn’t read the science briefings
Much to my surprise, Pauline Latham, Tory MP for Mid Derbyshire, has issued a statement that she has written to Boris saying Cummings should go.
Also submitted a message of support for Maitlis.
It may not make a lot of difference but anything that helps offset the anti free-press bilge from the tories and their allies has got to be worth a try.
he doesn’t read the science briefings
Why would he? He doesn’t formulate policy, Cummings does.
Sent a message in support of Maitliss
Preston opened with quite a good mocking of Cummings
This was followed by piss boiling evasion by Matt Hancock
Johnson is so plainly terrified of losing Cummings that it's amazing
I am quite depressed tbh
the same lying $©$÷® that screwed up the begining of this crisis are going to make an even bigger fist of the rest of it & there's a brutal recession coming , which I have no faith whatsoever these shysters can deal with either
Much to my surprise, Pauline Latham, Tory MP for Mid Derbyshire, has issued a statement that she has written to Boris saying Cummings should go.
Even Uncle Fester is getting in on the act! I used to hold nothing but the utmost contempt for him, but it's strange how you begin to yearn for the heady days of unchecked capitalism when the current Neo-Fascist regime is really stretching the realms of the believable, including silencing our media!
Sadly, my MP, a certain Robin Walker, is the very worst kind of Tory... One not good enough, or important enough to actually make it into the cabinet, but he is full of the same trite bullshit and spends every waking hour making sure the powers that be know which side his bread is buttered! Useless shit...
Hats off to Dublin Airport
That's Brilliant! 😂
Something to drink, Dom?
https://www.brewdog.com/uk/barnard-castle-eye-test
Available to pre-order.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen such so much online ridicule than the eye test jibes, everyone’s riding that bandwagon hard.
I think Boris is riding a losing horse in this race though and Dom has totally misread the people and his own importance.
It’s actually quite ironic as Cummings has been hoisted by his own petard.
The only win for Boris is they’re able to use it to crash the Brexit extension and eu trade talks so perhaps it useful for them and tbh even if Cummings resigns he can advise on a WFH role and be paid for by someone else.
Cummings resigns he can advise on a WFH role and be paid for by someone else.
He's already being paid by 'someone else'. Either regularly or with the promise of a future payout.
The story wasn't even on R4 headlines at 7am. Not even mentioned obliquely. It is running out of steam just as these shits calculated it would.
If they'd put as much effort into crunching early numbers from Italy, France and Germany we might not have the highest death toll in Europe.
Priorities dear boy, priorities. Sod the plebs, we don't need them for another four years.
Agreed @dannyh - it does seem like that, if only someone had another indiscretion up their sleeves.
It’s just been on Breakfast News.
Roughly, why do you expect people to play by the rules when you don’t?
Where is Starmer? Hopefully biding his time with a good attack in his pocket. Waiting for next PMQ?
Nick Robinson trying to get Hancock to answer a question on morality on the Today programme...Good luck with that Nick
Hapless Hancock floundering again. Is he the most pathetic specimen of a human being ever to achieve a ministerial role in government?
If he wasn't such a spineless excuse of a human being, I'd almost feel sorry for the trouser snake.
Hapless Hancock floundering again. Is he the most pathetic specimen of a human being ever to achieve a ministerial role in government?
Ahh, how quickly we forget Chris Grayling...
The story wasn’t even on R4 headlines at 7am. Not even mentioned obliquely. It is running out of steam just as these shits calculated it would.
First wave has but they’re now asking for the people to do their ‘civic duty,right thing’ for track and trace which sorta sets them up for the next fall.
Failing Grayling has - somewhat unbelievably - been outclassed in the hopeless stakes.
Bravo Mr Cummings, not even a mention of his name on 9am BBC news. It's even sliding down the agenda on this forum, hell, we're barely even talking about him in his own thread. Cummings could have run someone over on his way up the A1 that night and he'd get away with it. What a world we live in.
he (Matt Hancock) made the grauniad cryptic crossword this morning...
Politician with dull look Chinese prepare to fire (4,7)
lovely play on words 😀
I think Boris is riding a losing horse in this race though and Dom has totally misread the people and his own importance.
People keep saying that Cummings has completely misread the mood of the people... You've missed the point. He hasn't misread the mood, he will have foreseen this reaction, or at least considered it as a possibility. He just doesn't care. Whatever the public reaction was going to be, he didn't and still does not give a toss. Why should he? What are we going to do? He's seen Trump set the example: say what you like, evade answering any tricky questions, bluster bluster bluster, sorry that's all we've got time for, and leave. Repeat the next day. And the next. As long as you've surrounded yourself with cowards who will sing the same tune, you're golden. The whole lot of them are a skid mark on the Y-fronts of the nation.
I wrote to Bill Wiggin again regarding the performance at the Liaison Committee asking him why we should trust BJ if it would appear his team can’t trust him not to say something that he could be held accountable to.
I await a reply. Interestingly on his website he now has his office of.. email address rather than his own address as a contact. Just in case anyone in the constituency wanted to email him on the one he had on the site last week it is:
bill.wiggin.mp@parliament.uk
It is running out of steam just as these shits calculated it would.
Judging by the talk on a few Facebook and Whatsapp groups I'm in it's been replaced by the news that the local McDonald's is re-opening for drive-thru orders.
Bravo Mr Cummings, not even a mention of his name on 9am BBC news. It’s even sliding down the agenda on this forum, hell, we’re barely even talking about him in his own thread. Cummings could have run someone over on his way up the A1 that night and he’d get away with it. What a world we live in.
Maybe I'm a hopeless optimist but I like to think the damage has been done, now that we re assuming Cummings stays. Perhaps he's now a stillborn conjoined twin attached to Spaffer for the rest of his time in office? No escape
A lot of 'reasonable' Tory voters and non politico s will have seen the Tories for what they are in the starkest possible terms.
Spaffers toxic reliance on DC has been laid clear
The same people will now be aware of DC, the brains behind Brexit, stuttering and bullshitting away pathetically in the rose garden
The brain dead brexiters have turned on their figureheads: Julie Hartley brewer has apparently lost more than 1000 Twitter followers, Iain dale has had a similar fate and suffered homophobic abuse from the gammon right
Spaffer has never looked weaker and yesterdays liaison meeting showed a PM hideously out of his depth
Similarly, the woeful cabinet have never looked so bad. The backbenchers, have been forced to denounce the govt and deep fractures are emerging. If they persist or worsen then the working majority looks a tiny bit shaky
The right wing media have also had to divert from the Tory/Brexit cult line in order to reflect public opinion for once
Unfortunately this has all come at a massive cost but let's dwell on the positives!
In terms of Brexit, although the cause has been weakened merely due to the chief architects exposure as pathetic liars, it's now confirmed that the PM and his cabinet are in thrall to a cornered and humiliated psycho and a trade talk extension looks further away than ever
You missed the possibility that he genuinely misread how it would be interpreted AND also does not give a toss.
Many Shire Tory MPs have said over the last couple of days, more people than ever before have written to them expressing their anger. Even more than Brexit or any other subject...some have had literally 1000s of folk writing, often for the first time ever.
I've just emailed my Tory MP, James Daly. I know plenty of people who have, none of whom have received a reply. I've had a look on his social media streams and not a peep out of him. He's apparently disappeared. Just like his boss is partial to doing
I sent him this:
Good morning James
I hope you're keeping well in these difficult times. I'm a Ramsbottom resident, and one of your constituents with a question for you;
We were informed yesterday by Health Secretary Matt Hancock that we need to download the track and trace app as this is a 'moral obligation and a 'civic duty' to use it and self-isolate if required. Something I wholeheartedly agree with. We must all pull together to stop this terrible virus.
So, to that end, could you please let me know that that 'moral obligation and a 'civic duty' applies to everyone? In particular, I'm thinking of a certain Dominic Cummings? Does he fit into this group, along with the rest of us? Or will he be permitted his own interpretation?
I've looked on your social media to find a statement on the issue, with him being a senior aide in the government that you are a member of, but you seem to be quite reticent about commenting on the issue. Quite bizarre given that it's all anyone has been talking about for the last 5 days.
So could I ask you what your opinion on this matter? Will you be joining the 60+ of your colleagues who are prepared to stand up and condemn this outrageous flouting of lockdown rules and arrogant exceptionalism? Or will you be towing the (frankly insulting) party line that he conducted himself 'with integrity'?
I look forward to receiving your reply so that I can temper my behavior and (obviously) future voting accordingly
Yours sincerely....
Given that he's in a hyper-marginal seat which went to a recount at the last election and ended up with a majority of 100, going AWOL is an interesting approach to take. He's a rabid Brexiteer, so I don't think there are any doubts about his opinion on the matter. He seems very shy of communicating it though
This is why I didn't get a response from my MP.
Warning - may make blood boil:
I'm wondering how long it's going to take before lots and lots of people start telling contact tracers that they have symptoms and have recently been in close proximity to Dominic Cummings.
How many isolation periods do you think he needs to flout before he's back at the picnic table in the Rose Garden?
There is more to come on this yet I am sure and the political damage to Johnson is immense
This is why I didn’t get a response from my MP.
I got a standard automated one; guess they must be getting deluged. No doubt someone will FOI individual MPs for the numbers of complaints.
4min8secs LOL
There is more to come on this yet I am sure
There is, but there's an element of double bluff going on too with "reported sightings" in Alnwick and one or two other places. Wondering if they've not been seeded somehow, leaving the opening for DC to refute them completely by producing CCTV / phone data etc clearly showing him elsewhere at that time and therefore it's fake news and therefore who can trust what these people are coming out with, it's all an attack on him....
Now more than ever, need to be careful about the source of the "facts" and information.
My MP is SNP, so I'm confident of their stance on the matter
There is more to come on this yet I am sure and the political damage to Johnson is immense
If it is to come it needs to be today or tomorrow. A nice sunny weekend and the great unwashed will have forgotten about it.
It also needs to be done very very carefully. Note the rumours that started to circulate about possible Cumstain day trips to Alnwick and Wooler. I am 90% now that these were Cumstain or his mates placing rumours that might gain traction so he could refute them with unequivocal proof they were false.
Cumstain and his missus are arrogant, contemptuous arseholes, but they're not stupid. They went to Barnard Castle to celebrate her birthday gambling that enough of the mere proles would be cooped up to not notice. That is staggering arrogance, but I doubt they then pushed their luck even further. Not even they are that contemptuous.
Tory MPs openly calling for resignation is 41(?) Half of De Pfeffel's majority. But when push comes to shove how many of them will actually resign over this? One or two would be my guess. The trough does contain lots of lovely swill after all.
Edit: Beaten to it on the 'seeding' of refutable rumours.
Cummings is stupid - both in IQ terms and in Nous terms. His actions show that. Editting his blog etc
lively swill more like it
Cummings is stupid – both in IQ terms and in Nous terms. His actions show that. Editting his blog etc
OK. Not stupid enough to be perceived as stupid by the average man in the street. Which is what matters.