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270 miles there 60 miles day trip 270 miles back, he definitely stopped for fuel at some point, you can't get that kind of mileage out of a tank of fuel in a disco.
So the central pillars of the story are true.
Edit
Really not worth it.
So he rushes home from work because his wife is showing Corona symptoms, spends a couple of hours with her and then returns to work? WTF. Everything he said after that was irrelevant.
Chewkw do you do stand up?
I'm surprised he can, from his posts it sounds like he's had a stroke.
Holy ****
The Mail Online front page is mental (more so than usual)
@bruneep my thoughts exactly! Master manipulator (or maybe not so much so given that performance) playing the victim.
My thoughts
1. Lying bastard
2. Is that really the best so called 'top' reporters can come up with? Almost as pathetic as the excuses given.
Lol @ chewkw replies. Careful or he'll get out the machete and start lopping heads! You still in Newcastle chewy?
Ps. Watching Alastair Cambell now - hard to differentiate between him and Steve Davis nowadays 😉
Going to go test my eyesight over a 300 mile drive.
I think it is true that this will not have changed anyone’s entrenched position. Won’t persuade the doubters because the core issues of personal judgement and trust have not really been addressed. Those who want to move away from this will think he did enough.
Chewk, what makes you think you won’t get given the full Windrush by your mates?
They hate you and want you gone.
Nahh ... do as they wish. If I go the entire British Isle will probably be half empty.
How do you rate the media interviewing Cummings?
Collectively I thought they did OK. The questions that landed and his answers to those questions didn't do him any favours, and won't have mollified people who are rightly very angry at his behaviour. No sign of contrition, and despite saying he understands why the public were concerned, his responses demonstrated that he doesn't really understand at all.
I feel the best approach now is for the press to always refer to Prime Minister Dominic Cummings. In fact for everyone who has had enough of this fiasco to do the same. Only one thing will make Boris act and that is the public being constantly reminded that he his not in charge and is being told what to do by Dom.
There you go ladies and gentlemen...
the most powerful man in the UK
One of the most depressing days in recent british political history tbh.
https://twitter.com/jemima_khan/status/1264952071972847618?s=21
[well, they did try, the answer was “she’s a writer”]
I haven't been able to get to the opticians, think I'll just get in the car and try the M60. With my family. What an utter ****.
Doffs cap at Mark Donne....... genius 🙂
Lol @ chewkw replies. Careful or he’ll get out the machete and start lopping heads! You still in Newcastle chewy?
Yes, still in the Labour stronghold.
I feel the best approach now is for the press to always refer to Prime Minister Dominic Cummings.
Nahh ... he has slightly more hairs than me and does not have the PM look.
Has anyone on Twitter asked Steve Baker to quantify exactly how much of Joris's 'political capital' has just been spent?
I reckon he's on the edge right now. Going full Michael Douglas in Falling Down.
😅🤣😅🤣
To be honest I'm quite relieved that Boris isn't actually in charge - take the positves...
I reckon he’s on the edge right now. Going full Michael Douglas in Falling Down.
😅🤣😅🤣
I am glad you are happy. 😀
Cummings' case is now closed.
Now can the press not have political news until the pandemic is over?
It was like one of those everyone writes the next line of the story games. Fitted the facts perfectly. Just odd given that it's exactly what he told Bojo yesterday, and yet Bojo seemed totally oblivious of any of them.
Cummings will be gone within 48 hours
Cummings made a point of saying that he didn't know if his wife had covid which begs the question why he decided to self-isolate with his family, especially as BJ explicitly said that Cummings knew that he and his wife were about to become incapacitated with covid.
Cummings will be gone within 48 hours
Really not sure about that.
He holds a lot of power and Johnson seems completely reliant on him.
On the flipside plenty of other tories loath him (with good reason since he is just using the party without a care for it) and even the daily mail seems to be settling down against him.
In any previous parliament and any other person I would agree but with the current complete lack of shame I reckon you may be wrong.
I shouldn’t find myself agreeing with this man, again:
https://twitter.com/montie/status/1264961398020485128?s=21
Doffs cap at Mark Donne……. genius
The speed at which he sorted that is impressive.
Cummings will be gone within 48 hours
No chance. None at all.
I dunno, he (DC) specifically said it was up to the PM if he should go, almost setting it up for him.
Cummings will be gone within 48 hours
I bet many wish he is on their opposing side.
He will earn big money once he depart from politics in future. Big money!
Was listening to Alastair Campbell on Sky News and he was absolutely scathing, but he raised a very pertinent point...
No. 10 are dedicating their time to this during a time of national/global crisis. Dominic Cummings said it himself, that the Prime Minister's time is incredibly important and should not be wasted with trivial stuff. And yet they've probably spent all day perfecting his script, going over the potential questions and answers to defend an adviser.
It's very obvious he hasn't got any friends in any camps and too many enemies have been made. The media won't stop till he's gone.
Bring back strong and stable. They were halcyon days in comparison
It’s very obvious he hasn’t got any friends in any camps and too many enemies have been made. The media won’t stop till he’s gone.
If he cannot handle the media then he is Not up to the job.
He is not in a position to be liked or want to be liked.
The country is not governed by the media.
Cummings will be gone within 48 hours
Not a cat in hells chance. That means Johnson has to sack him, and given that Cummings tells Johnson what to do then that’s rather unlikely.
He’s here until herd immunity is achieved along side no deal Brexit.
He flat out denied that he had revisited Durham after returning to London. Interesting to see if anyone can stand up that allegation with more evidence now. Either the witness is mistaken or lying, or Cummings is lying.
rydster
MemberCummings made a point of saying that he didn’t know if his wife had covid which begs the question why he decided to self-isolate with his family, especially as BJ explicitly said that Cummings knew that he and his wife were about to become incapacitated with covid.
Yup, the story just doesn't make any sense. And now different bits have been "true" at different times as was convenient, but they're hoping that there's so many lies that everyone just goes "well who really knows".
The "eye test" seems like a dead cat, to distract us from the massive pile of dead cats.
He flat out denied that he had revisited Durham after returning to London. Interesting to see if anyone can stand up that allegation with more evidence now. Either the witness is mistaken or lying, or Cummings is lying.
The press are trying the Hercule Poirot?
Having thought about the conference again, I think regarding the judgement issue he was implying that he was capable of making judgements based on the small print but others are too thick, so follow the broader stay at home message
If he cannot handle the media then he is Not up to the job.
By his own admission he was unable to function coherently when under pressure with extremely faulty decision making. For this alone Thrombo (The PM) should sack him as not having the 'right stuff' for the job.
I'm not very forum savvy, is there a way to ignore posts from chewk?
2 things that struck me were the things that he "couldn't remember" :
When he filled up with petrol
And when he told Johnson that he'd made the trip (who also apparently can't remember)
By his own admission he was unable to function coherently when under pressure with extremely faulty decision making. For this alone Thrombo (The PM) should sack him as not having the ‘right stuff’ for the job.
I think he has been much more coherent and calm than many which is a sign that he can handle pressure.
I’m not very forum savvy, is there a way to ignore posts from chewk?
Just keep reading them, after a while your brain kind of glazes over with boredom and automatically blanks them out.
The line about testing his eyesight was an obvious lie though
He's taking everyone in the country for mugs if he thinks anyone buys it
If this is about judgement, the decision to "Do an eye Test" with a 60 mile trip carrying his wife and son certainly calls it into question.
Today he was pushing the "My wife was ill with other non-CV symptoms" line to say they didn't travel whilst symptomatic.
In her article, didn't she write I was ill with CV so Dom rushed home to treat me. He also stated he went back to No10 after looking after her that day!!
Does she drive?
No taxis in Durham so he had to leave isolation to collect her?? NO TAXIS IN A CITY??????
Utter utter tosh.
When he filled up with petrol
Hmm, Land Rovers Disco Sport MPG seems to be missing from thier web page...
Didn't he bolt for Durham after Bojo fell ill with Covid? Rat leaving the sinking ship? I reckon he thought Boris was goosed and knew he would be torn apart without his protection so he ran away.
Hmm, Land Rovers Disco Sport MPG seems to be missing from thier web page…
I think he was very obviously vague about where he filled up in case any evidence comes in later, then he can say, Oh... yeah, I remember now.
Whatever happens now, even if he's sacked, resigned or whatever, the government can't backtrack on the message they've been telling us these past few days. We CAN leave the house, and we CAN travel while we're self-isolating with symptoms of covid, and we can use our own judgement on that. The damage is done.
Sir Roger somebody (Tory MP) on R4 earlier said that the 1922 Committee will be trying to remove him based on his actions. If that happens Boris has his get out of jail card. Woe is me.
Still just obfuscation really. Central point was they knew the rules, didn't bother to follow them and got caught. No-one with an analytical mind and a shred of decency would be claiming Childcare is impossible to find in a city of 10 million people. When you're one of the most important people in it.
My money is on the trip being pre-arranged for his wifes birthday and they just went for it, hoping to not get caught.
government can’t backtrack on the message they’ve been telling us these past few days. We CAN leave the house, and we CAN travel while we’re self-isolating with symptoms of covid, and we can use our own judgement on that.
Well, let’s see what’s said in about 10 mins time...
I don’t get it there’s still 300ish people dying daily and people are off to the beach 🙁
So yesterday Boris said the other sightings of Dom were "palpable mistruths" yet today it seems they were accurate.
And when Dom was testing his eyesight he remembered one guy out of all the others who he saw at Barnard Castle as having recognised him. PLUS having to stop to let his child out of the car as he was feeling sick it was at a spot lots of others visit and yes, he DID see others in the distance.
He sure did his homework.
I don’t get it there’s still 300ish people dying daily and people are off to the beach
they've done a self assessment and weighed up the risks a la Dom obviously
Just been out for a 100km bike ride to check my eyesight, what did I miss?
I’ve emailed my Tory yes man MP for the third time in three days.
The text is below if anyone wants to adapt it, be careful though, it refers to previously sent emails. My MP seems to want to portray himself as an educated man, so I thought I would press those buttons. Anyone else whose MP has Oxbridge colleges on their CV might want to do similar....
“ Dear Xxxxxx,
I am writing to you again in your capacity of MP for XXXX and Minister of State for XXXX <delete if not needed> to ask that you please write to Boris Johnson requesting the sacking of Dominic Cummings.
This email is going to be shorter than the ones below because I have said all I need to in detail there. I assume you will have watched Mr Cummings’ frankly outrageous press conference, maybe through your fingers or from behind a sofa(?)
Before deleting this email or disregarding it, please ask yourself one question, bearing in mind that press conference.
Do you as a minister of state, and graduate in XXXX from XXXX College XXXX believe all of that?
Credibility is an important asset in public life.
Please ensure my name and email address are not shown on any forwarded or reproduced versions of this email.”
It made me feel about 0.000001% better.
There are some FB ‘friends’ being twunts and trying to defend Cummings. Looks like my Christmas card list is going to be getting shorter...
Does everyone still have the letter Boris Johnson sent to everyone?
Did Cummings get his?
I’ve also written to my MP and included the following:
I am writing to you as my representative to express how appalled I was to learn that despite his ignoring the rules governing the lockdown (the very rules that he helped to devise) your government has decided not only that Mr Cummins' actions were legal and responsible, but that they were done “with the overwhelming aim of stopping the virus and saving lives.”
I am sure that key workers in the health service, social care and the police will be surprised to learn that they’ve been doing it wrong all the time, and instead of turning up for work with the aim of stopping the virus and saving lives, all they need to have done was drive up and down the A1 a few times with the added bonus that they could have called in on their nearest and dearest along the way
He thinks he’s the Prime Minister.
Based on the last two days, I think he thinks he's our Glorious Leader. And he may be right.
I love the phrase 'expert medical advice' . I usually just go to the doctors.
Hard line by Boris on “the rules”, then immediately hoofed in the slats by Laura at the Beeb.
Boris says he was busy, didnt notice Cummings activity.
So is Laura back off of the Tory payroll now? It’s difficult to keep up
Get back in your Box Peston!
Go Beth! Johnson washing his hands.
He’s losing it!!!
The staged specs in his pocket, was comedy gold 😂
Did Boris just take his glasses from his outside jacket pocket and put them back inside the jacket?
Props at the ready. I wonder where he's hiding the kids bike, I know where I'd like to hide it.
I thought the Poundshop Berlusconi was supposed to be some sort of great Churchillian orator?
In the last of the 3 missives I've sent to Gove in the last couple of days I've asked him to reply to me in BIG PRINT as my eyesight is giving me concern and I'm about to check it by driving down the motorway for a a while just to check it.
Go Beth! Johnson washing his hands.
yep. “Make their own minds up “ and “member of my staff”. Sounds to me like hes told him before the Garden party to sort his own mess out and now Boris will let the 1922 committee decide.
Due to overrunning press conferences BBC One have rescheduled programmes.
Replaced by 'Would I Lie to You?'
Now that is good!
https://twitter.com/wallaceme/status/1264998360223756290?s=19
The Chief Executive of Conservative Home
Is there a way to find out who provides DCs car insurance? I wonder how they feel about him driving with questionable eyesight…? I would have thought he was effectively driving uninsured?
(It also says a lot about attitudes to driving in this country that he thought “testing his eyesight” by putting himself in charge of 2 tonnes of machinery and then doing 27 miles in 30 minutes on the public road would be an acceptable excuse)
These posts are being removed -from the Government’s own websites.
@10DowningStreet @BorisJohnson https://t.co/Wl1JNhKOnK
A lot of fallout for Suella Braverman, the Attorney General, about her support for Cummings yesterday as it undermines the independence of the role - https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/25/attorney-general-faces-calls-to-resign-defends-dominic-cummings-suella-braverman
Again a misjudgement by Boris and Dom not to resign/be sacked, as the impact of the story is spreading further across the Government at the most critical period in history since WW2, and at a time when they have been rightly criticised for their numerous failures in attempting to deal with the pandemic. Public perception and image are far more important than facts in politics, something Domn has built his career on and why we are now facing Brexit, so they both must undertsand than public perception in this instance is demanding action not excuses!
