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.... when your mutt is jumping on and growling and children and obviously terrifying them it can not be considered playing.
It's a strange idea I know, but how about keeping the thing under control?
devs been up to his tricks again...
Hope the kids involved didn't get hurt/upset btw
is it time for this one again, already ?
It could have been a child's face!
Yes seems to be.
I agree. I hate when peoples children climb all over my dog. It's clear he doesn't like it and if he nips at them, suddenly I'm the villain. Why can't people tell when a dog is scared.
Edited: Wasn't helpful. Hope they're ok.
Onzadog - I agree, kids need to be kept under control too. But my boys are very scared of dogs as it is due to them having both been bitten in similar circumstances to today.
Loum - I find that kicking the dog usually works - after the owner has refused to control their dog when asked that is.
can we have a separate forum for people to whinge at dogs and dog owners? Maybe people who complain about horse poo can go there too and they can all whinge away to their hearts content.
If you have a problem with a specific dog and/or dog owner then SAY SOMETHING TO THEM. If you don't they keep on living in ignorance so they need to be told. Then all of us dog owners who have well trained dogs who respect that they need to be kept out of peoples way get tarnished with the same brush.
when your mutt is jumping on and growling and children and obviously terrifying them it can not be considered playing.
by the dog it can.
my boys are very scared of dogs
More interaction with animals is perhaps what is needed ?
Loum - I find that kicking the dog usually works - after the owner has refused to control their dog that is
Depends on the situation...
Minor annoyance, pestering you or your kids or your dog and the dog owner isn't doing anything then I suggest a forceful shove with your foot rather than a kick.
If you fear for somebodies or your own dogs safety and the owners is not doing anything then get a bit heavier.
But remember it may not be the fault of the dog - poor training comes from the owner. Would you kick a kid because it's parent isn't controlling it? Also if you hurt a dog without reason you could end up with a conviction for cruelty to animals. Plus if anyone hurt my dog they would end up in hospital.
Plus if anyone hurt my dog they would end up in hospital.
Bingo!!!!
What do I win?
But my boys are very scared of dogs as it is due to them having both been bitten in similar circumstances to today.
is it just that or is that in addition to another reason? eg a parents attitude to dogs?
When your kid falls off a bike do you destroy the bike and never let them ride again? Or if they struggle in the pool and swallow loads of water do you never let them near water again?
Your reaction to an event has a huge effect on the way a kid responds to that situation. Assess it properly and react accordingly and you prevent irrational fear and repeats.
You'd be kicking the wrong thing. Try kicking the owner of the dog or child, that should elicit a better response.
is it time for this one again, already ?
Leopards.
Spots.
Changes.
If my dog is out of control, feel free to kick it.
SB
andyl - I grew up around lots of dogs, family bred rottweilers and ran kennels, and have no problem with well controlled dogs. We've tried to get the boys happy around dogs again and they are reasonably happy with well controlled dogs, but any sign of agression from a dog and they are terrified, which is probably a good thing. Kicks given to dogs are of various degrees of force and speed depending on the situation.
Would you kick a kid because it's parent isn't controlling it?
If he was growling at me and trying to bite me, I propably would. 😉
More interaction with animals is perhaps what is needed ?
Trip to the zoo might help?
You are right though more dog owners need to be responsible for their dogs and read peoples reactions better.
Plus if anyone hurt my dog they would end up in hospital.
Surely it would depend on what your dog did and what they did?
Can anyone remember how this thread ended last time?
Was it the same as the previous time and the time before that?
Should the winner be common sense, only for it to be pipped at the post by selfishness?
#repeat.
Of all the various groupings of people I encounter in public, of all the ways of labelling and sorting people into socio-economic or sporting or whatever groupings, dog owners seem to be one of the most unaware or wilfully obtuse.
It's a stereotype, it's a tarring with the same brush, it's a generalisation, but it proves to be correct more times than not.
It's got to the stage that I will stop and thank people who have well behaved dogs, because they are the exception rather than the rule.
I now ride near groups of people or single people who have dogs off leads with the clear and certain expectation that their dog will not respond to commands and will get in my way. I don't blame the dogs.
I thought Smee wasn't allowed to troll anymore...
Nice to see attitudes from either side are as hardened as ever though.
Whooooh, am I having a flashback or have i got dust in my eyes?
And now the nonsense starts when the usual suspects cry troll.....
Mods: probably a good idea to close the thread now before their nonsense gets out of hand.
Ok, I'm going to go with George, in the zoo and the weapon was fists.
/cluedo
And now the nonsense starts when the usual suspects cry troll.....
I dunno TZF, why don't you report it? You read the story about the boy who cried wolf when you were a youngster, yeah?
Then all of us dog owners who have well trained dogs who respect that they need to be kept out of peoples way
I would hazard a guess that these people do not apply to the OP.
Dogs out of control. Kck it in the B0ll0CKS.
Kids out of control annoying a dog, hmmmm!!!
Most dog owners are idiots I agree. However we are not all the same.
Would you kick a kid because it's parent isn't controlling it?
If the kid was attacking one of my own then I would likely grab the kid and return it to the particular parent, probably not kick it though no.
Why would dog owners disagree with the OP?
glupton1976 - Member
And now the nonsense starts when the usual suspects cry troll.....Mods: probably a good idea to close the thread now before their nonsense gets out of hand.
Thing is they know full well what type of thread it is yet still come on and whinge. They are the curtain-twitchers of STW! 🙄
Guess you can't teach an old dog new tricks eh?
....because there is so much reactionary nonsense from parents these days its laughable.
Driving past a school the other day several parents all (in an exaggerated manner naturally) herded/scooped their children into their arms away from the road....firstly the children were nowhere near the kerb let alone in the road and secondly i was driving at the speed limit and funnily enough was not out to mount the kerb and mow down children on my way home....same thing happened when i was a passenger and my other half was driving....
....we have a small dog, runt of the litter sort, smaller than a cat....if it runs at somebody, which she will do when off the lead and in the woods, most people react well...she is a comically small thing and likes a fuss....but some adults will scoop their sprogs up and physically shield them as the tiny dog approaches, its no wonder some kids have no idea how to respond in certain situations or develop irrational fears.
I took my daughter to a local park yesterday - probably 5 acres of open space yet a dog owner had let their mutt crap 18 inches away from the bottom of a slide in the kids area. Lots more "surprises" in the near vicinity as well.
A significant proportion of dog owners are obtuse morons.
I seem to have a bastard of a dog, he is absolutely lovely for the most part but put him in the park & let him see another dog then he just runs at them & will jump at them yapping appearing to bite their face ( he's a BT so quite small), but really all he is doing is playing, always wagging his tail & never has his heckles up & certainly never actually bites anything. Other dog owners see this as aggression although it isn't & people who don't do dogs get really defensive, I think the OP doesnt do dogs.
[i]A significant proportion of [s]dog owners[/s] people are obtuse morons. [/i]
Fixed that for you.
2unfit2ride - Member
I seem to have a bastard of a dog, he is absolutely lovely for the most part but put him in the park & let him see another dog then he just runs at them & will jump at them yapping appearing to bite their face ( he's a BT so quite small), but really all he is doing is playing, always wagging his tail & never has his heckles up & certainly never actually bites anything. Other dog owners see this as aggression although it isn't & people who don't do dogs get really defensive, I think the OP doesnt do dogs.
You know this as it's your dog - a stranger wouldn't know this.
A BT ran at my daughter a few months ago, my OH saw it coming and scooped her up, it went for her shoe and tore the toe end of the shoe off, yeh right off.
My OH is now reluctant to take my girls down to that park again - Good work eh.
I took my daughter to a local park yesterday - probably 5 acres of open space yet a dog owner had let their mutt crap 18 inches away from the bottom of a slide in the kids area. Lots more "surprises" in the near vicinity as well.
Public parks are dog toilets, any parent stupid enough to take their kids to a place with a concentrated biohazard to play and run around should be reported to social services for neglect.
big_n_daft - Member
Public parks are dog toilets, any parent stupid enough to take their kids to a place with a concentrated biohazard to play and run around should be reported to social services for neglect.
Troll-tastic
Dog shit should be cleared up by the owner, no excuse. Different [laces different rules. Local woods no need, Forestry reccognise this however not on the path. Fair enough.Local park, please kids play there.
BT behaving like that looks like an attack. Dogs practice this and play to hone their attacking skills. Sort that out FFS. Oh he is only playing. Dogs unfortunately greet each other by sniffing arses not pretending to bite each others faces. That is a fighting practice behaviour. Learn about your animal and dogs before posting shite.
Dog shit should be cleared up by the owner...
...and then bagged, and hung from a tree.
Local woods no need, Forestry reccognise this however not on the path.
Don't stray from the path!
FFS is it "weirwolf rules" for going for a ride or stroll in the woods?
On my ride home tonight I rode up behind a couple with two labs..they were just running about as they do, but there was a women coming down the other way who quickly put her dog on a lead (also a lab) and tried to signal to the other walkers that the dog wasn't overly friendly...inevitably the other two went bounding up to it and got snapped at by it I felt like saying to the first two what a pair of tossers they were...as they refused to call there dogs in and put them on the leads felt really bad for the women who was obviously struggling a bit as the other two were running around her and the dog that was spinning around on the lead trying to grab them..the other two just walked on and didn't even speak to the women..never mind getting them out of my way w@@@ers should have given them the boot on the way past
Pingu, you sound as if your after a fight, I'm sure you will find one with your attitude. But I do indeed take on board you very valid points, the BT in question is from working stock & not like our other bitch that is from show stock (inbred), how do you suggest I "sort it out"?
oooo handbags 😆
2unfit2ride
Not after a fight I will leave that to your dog. If its a working dog you should be able to control it, it doesn't matter what "stock" its from its called "training".
Ok, but as good as the mut is on home turf it just doesn't respond the same in the field. It knows it has done wrong as it will return after it has played & roll over at my feet, should I just kick it?
Nope you should learn how to control it or keep it on a lead, its not difficult.
put him in the park & let him see another dog then he just runs at them & will jump at them yapping appearing to bite their face
Really!
but really all he is doing is playing, always wagging his tail & never has his heckles up & certainly never actually bites anything
Like yeah I would know that as its my dog? So your dog attacks(sorry I meant comes to play with) my dog!
Other dog owners see this as aggression although it isn't
Suprising really!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Get some owner training classes and keep your bloody dog on a lead.
Did you say anything to the dog owner, or did you figure it would be better to let them read about it on here?
TJ would love this thread .. 😥