Let’s not have this turn into an another pro/anti dog thread, I think we know by know where everyone stands on that.
I have a specific query…
One of my neighbours lets their dog out onto the street every day, unaccompanied, for it to do its business wherever it likes, including my drive. They don’t clean it up, and when they need to retrieve the dog there is always a big song and dance about “how you naughty little thing escaped again”.
I already know that said neighbour is going to be totally unresponsive to a polite request to stop their dog doing this, and the council aren’t taking any action after reporting it a few times. Or if they have, the neighbour has ignored it.
So does anyone have any suggestions on how to get it to stop? It appears to actually be causing other dog owners to not clear up, because since they’ve started doing this, the amount of shit on the street has markedly increased, and you can tell by the size and locations it’s not all from one dog. Classic case of people seeing one person doing something, and determining it to be acceptable because of that.
Bag it up yourself and leave it on their doorstep with a note saying the next lot goes through the letterbox - best warn the postie though.
Frozen sausages. Rubber Mallet. Virgin Turf.
Encourage the hound to stick to it’s own garden.
1 Passive aggressive sign work.
2 Tip the offerings onto their driveway.
3 <insert bombers/sausage/sudocreme/weeing-in-shoes related solution here>
Sorry, got nothing useful, we also have neighbours with low dog ownership skills and funnily enough they're fairly antisocial in other ways too.
Give it back to them. And tell them up front what you're doing, why you're doing it, and that it will continue until they change their behaviour. Sometimes, only direct action is the way forward.
Council might take more notice with doorbell camera footage as evidence? Or used said footage to name & shame on local FB group!!
otherwise, yes as above post back to owner 😂
Bag it, tie it to their gate/fence with double knots, as above, if it persists, letterbox posting (in bag) and frozen sausages finally.
Who at the council did you report it to?
The dog warden or general?
The former might be more effective if you contact them when its out and say there is a loose dog about.
"Give it back to them. And tell them up front what you’re doing, why you’re doing it, and that it will continue until they change their behaviour. Sometimes, only direct action is the way forward."
This.
Literally a sh1tshow. I suspect the kind of person who does this is a ****, so conversation won't work. I'd play along but say look I'm gonna start returning it to your drive because I don't want it in my bin. Get a shovel and just lift amd dump.
Bag it up yourself and leave it on their doorstep with a note saying the next lot goes through the letterbox – best warn the postie though.
Give it back to them. And tell them up front what you’re doing, why you’re doing it, and that it will continue until they change their behaviour. Sometimes, only direct action is the way forward.
Tempting but knowing the guy, that’ll just start a feud. And he’d be guaranteed to retaliate in some way despite being in the wrong.
Council might take more notice with doorbell camera footage as evidence? Or used said footage to name & shame on local FB group!!
The former has been done. That latter would cause the same problem as above, as it’ll be obvious which house the footage has come from.
Shove it on their doorstep (without a bag). We had a massive issue on the field behind our house. The entrance to the field was full of dog poo bags - owners were picking up the poo, but just dumping it at the entrance - it's not a council maintained field. Dog walkers were all local.
Up went a sign asking people to take the poo home, and it stopped.
Most councils have by-laws for dog control, these include keeping your dog on a lead in public spaces and clearing up after your dog. There are some methods of enforcing these including orders that can be given to people without resorting to Courts but are legally binding and that can result in further legal action if not complied with. Contact your local dog warden (if you still have them), I found them better than the police after other dogs attacked mine. I always clear up after mine including in remote places, it does result in the source of bad smells having to be located in my rucksack or hiking trousers sometimes though! As an edit, some of the suggestions above, whilst a good knee jerk reaction, will only escalate the problem and could end up in violent behaviour. Use the legal methods or your life may be even more affected.
If you see the dog running loose, stick it in your car, remove it’s collar and take it to the police station and tell them you found it running in traffic.
If it’s chipped then it’ll get returned by Plod with a stern rebuke
If not, it might get rehomed with people who actually give a shite.
Who at the council did you report it to?
The dog warden or general?
The former might be more effective if you contact them when its out and say there is a loose dog about.
There’s a specific contact on our council for reporting dog mess, but appears to be ineffectual. Our council relies on the neighbouring city’s dog warden, who has to travel a considerable distance and the dog would be long gone by the time they get here. I’ll look into it though.
If you see the dog running loose, stick it in your car, remove it’s collar and take it to the police station and tell them you found it running in traffic.
If it’s chipped then it’ll get returned by Plod with a stern rebuke
If not, it might get rehomed with people who actually give a shite.
Yesterday it actually got caught by next door’s dog walker and returned to them, after I’d told the dog walker what they do. She didn’t seem impressed so I’d have liked to have been a fly on the wall when it was returned.
But as the dog was out again this morning, and retrieved with the usual song and dance 15 minutes later, I guess it didn’t have an effect.
Try speaking to your local MP and get them to ask the council why they are not taking action when such behaviour is reported?
Get a FoI request put in to the council asking them how many complaints have been submitted and how many led to charges being brought to owners?
Shame the council with your local newspaper if you have one (some are on social media only but still have a voice)?
Spade and toss it onto their front path.
When his dog curls one out on your property, go out and curl your own out on his...
Tempting but knowing the guy, that’ll just start a feud
Ah, that could be an issue I get that, but at some point you've either got to take a stand or stand in some shit.
Buy some of these and fix them to the lamp-posts?
Dognap the dog, give it to some better owners, if they don't care to properly walk and clean-up after the dog, they don't deserve it.
Shovel and then flung at their front door/door step, every morning.
Shame the council with your local newspaper if you have one (some are on social media only but still have a voice)?
Between picking up dog shit and keeping social services running for kids/elderly/disabled, I can see why priorities are where they are!
I can see why priorities are where they are!
But the council has a direct contact for reporting dog mess so that department's responsibility is dealing with complaints about dog mess and not running social services (which I know, from direct experience, are a mess of their own too).
Well, reported it yet again through two channels to the council. One for reporting dog fouling, and the other for reporting out of control dogs.
Thanks for all the suggestions folks, but it looks like that’s all I can do unless I confront them directly, and that will end in tears.
If you're worried about starting feuds if they know who's giving it back to them, all you need to do is collect the stuff and then deliver it to their house/garden via catapult, from hiding.
(Slightly) more seriously, I wonder if there's anything you can do that will make their own garden more desirable as a dog toilet. Is there a way to surreptitiously train their dog to 💩 on its own doorstep?
Is there a way to surreptitiously train their dog to 💩 on its own doorstep?
it already does! The pavement outside their house is the worst for it!
And that’s kinda the most annoying thing. None of the houses have much in t(e way of frontages, but we all have large private back gardens. They could easily exercise the dog in their garden.
according to this link, it is a criminal offence although the LA should handle it, but if they repeatedly fail to do so maybe you can contact your local PCSO? (although misspelt on that link as PSCO which is not encouraging 😂) It is ASB at the very least so perhaps they could have a word?
https://www.westyorkshire.police.uk/ask-the-police/question/Q37
Train your cats to do their business in their back garden?
Smear it on the underside of their car door handle?
stick inside a paper bag, place on their doorstep, set fire to bag, knock on door & then scarper
Just re-read the
including my drive
pesky. How about a fence?
otherwise shovel and return ‘your dog left this behind’?
maybe some fox 💩 in their garden would keep things closer to home?
we have a similar 💩 problem with cats now and again. If I were that kind of person a spade and a pit of lye 😈. But usually a spade and into the garden waste bin.
Buy a bigger, more agressive dog that is fiercely territorial
Smear it on the underside of their car door handle?
🤣🤣🤣 so mean.
You have a choice over and above reporting to the ineffectual council.
1. Cause a shit storm by confronting yourneighbour about it, ranging from politely mentioning it through to various forms of returning the shit to them
2. Keep quietly fuming about it and do nothing.
Each to their own but I'd be speaking to the neighbour politely and pointing out that if it keeps happening they'll be receiving the shit back in various forms.
Smear it on the underside of their car door handle?
And glue a drawing pin under there as well...
In seriousness,
As annoying as it is, I don't think it's fair to lay blame for others' behaviour on the doorstep of one neighbour. That's on them.
It is a problem though and I can empathise. There's one round here, I've yet to catch the perpetrator in the act but it must be a monster because the girth of its eggs is astonishing. No word of exaggeration, they're easily an inch and a half thick at least. Always dead in the centre of the pavement too, as if it's going "there, I did that."
If you have any solutions, I'm all ears. It never occurred to me that you could report it to the council; if you take that route, I'd report every single incidence. If they're not taking action, you want to get to a point where they're going "bloody hell, it's him again."
Actually,
The MP is a good shout. I had a broken manhole cover outside the house. Every time it was driven over it went crash-crash. It was driven over a lot, crash-crash was the soundtrack to my life, day and night. It was, genuinely, starting to affect my mental health. I went out to see if I could fettle it somehow. Three separate sets of neighbours saw me and came out to tell me that they'd reported it to the council multiple times but nothing had been done.
I had a bit of a rant on Facebook about it and it was picked by a councillor (I don't even think he was our MP). He came out to observe it, spent 20 minutes at the roadside listening before losing the plot. He must have read them the riot act, it was fixed inside of a week.
Amateur. Smear it on the underside of their car door handle to affix a drawing pin. What’s the first thing you instinctively do when you prick your finger?
Some of you are right bastards aren’t you!
One of my dads colleagues had a similar dog s**te problem, so he collected it up every day for a few weeks, put in a rubble sack. He then took the full sack round to the neighbour and when they answered the door, he tipped the lot inside their front door onto their feet. They didn’t let their dog cra* on his front garden again! :))
One of my neighbours was a secret drinker. They would sneak out in the evening and drink 4 or 5 bottles of cheap wine and leave them in he bushes next to my garden. I knew who it was so I collected them up over a couple of weeks and then, with the help of another neighbour, we delivered them back by dumping them over their driveway and garden.
I doubt they stopped drinking but they did stop dumping the bottles. The only solution here is to return the dog poo back to you neighbour, starting with bags and building up to pathway, cars roof, letter box...
We had a German shepherd next door regularly coming into our garden and crapping. I started by passively aggressively throwing it all back over but that had no effect. Eventually went round and calmly and politely raised it, asked them to make sure it didn't happen again.
It's made things worse. The bastard's started bringing his dog with him now.
Wooobob….PMSL!
The problem with asking for advice on here you will receive lots of advice for ways to proceed that the posters would never have the courage to do themselves, it’s almost the equivalent to”pub talk” but from behind a desk. If some of the actions were carried out that have been advised it may well expose the OP to criminal charges. I know it’s off topic but I do wish the Alpha males could turn it down a notch or two - see also high performance car thread, “brake check” threads and many others. Perhaps we could have a special section for “macho members” to out dick each other?
I strongly suspect not all answers in threads like this are entirely serious...
Bum the neighbour to assert dominance.
Make the dog watch.
Be the alpha.
I'm just enjoying the intense irony of someone who defended their right to let their cat crap anywhere it wanted now having similar pet 💩 problems but because it's from a dog something must be done.
Bum the neighbour to assert dominance.
Make the dog watch.Be the alpha.
Sense at last. See, some people here have a serious, realistic approach to this issue.
We had a German shepherd next door regularly coming into our garden and crapping.
That's nothing. The German that lives next door to us is in his garden at all hours, singing "I want to know what love is!" at the top of his voice.
Bloody Foreigner.
Look at that wheelsonfire1 ! RACISM too!!! 😂
Bum the neighbour to assert dominance.
Make the dog watch.Be the alpha.
Sense at last. See, some people here have a serious, realistic approach to this issue.
Hee heee 🙂
Mither & mutter, but do nothing.
It's the British way.
Or.
Maybe offer to help them fix their back garden fences etc to make the garden secure, when asked why you think it's insecure you can state that you assume that's why they let the dog out to cr@p out the front. As they seem to think it's always because the dog has escaped 'again' it might strike a chord that you're onto them.
Some of you are right bastards aren’t you!
Yes. And?
I’ve noticed an increasing trend for dog owners to just let their dogs shit on footpaths, without even attempting to pick the crap up in a bag, or if they do, they then just drop the bag’o’crap on the pavement and leave it. My front garden is open to the road, because it’s where I park my car. It’s also gravelled, so rainwater can easily drain. Neighbours either side are also the same, but theirs are concrete. Some asshole walks their dog up my road, and I’m certain are deliberately letting their dog crap on my drive, because there’s never any crap on their concrete, where it would be impossible to miss.
I’ve found crap directly below the driver’s door of my car, as well, but I can’t think of anything I can do about it, because it’s unlikely to be anybody nearby, because those few with dogs don’t seem to take them out for walks, because they’re noisy little rats on a string, so just stay in the back garden and yap interminably! 🤷🏼
I’m just enjoying the intense irony of someone who defended their right to let their cat crap anywhere it wanted now having similar pet 💩 problems but because it’s from a dog something must be done.
I get most of the neighbourhood cats in my back garden, crapping indiscriminately all over the lawn I’m trying to wildflower, I’ve even found cat turds in the large square terracotta pot my apple tree is in! That I solved by putting a load of clippings from my Pyrocanthus hedge in the pot.
Not something I can easily do elsewhere in the garden. The cats come from the flats the other side of my fence, they come and go through a window that’s left open for them, and there’s several from houses further down the road.
Quite why they come into my garden, when there’s grass and dirt for them to crap in every where around, I guess it might possibly be my bird feeders on my tree…
My only way of dealing with it is to scoop it up with something and fling it over the fence onto the grass around the flats, when nobody’s around, which is much of the time.
Dog crap is not a problem encountered by the op, alone.
Your councils should have allocated specific areas for dogs to crap.
I actually consider it quite cruel, not to do so.
It’s a bit like waking up after a heavy drinking session and not being able to see, but bursting for a pi**.
You’re just flailing about, trying to find a light switch or any clue to the whereabouts of the loo. Pretty unpleasant!
Dogs rely on their sense of smell when deciding where to crap, and being able to go to the same spot takes a lot of the pressure off of them.
I think that in New York, they have special fenced-off enclosures, just for this purpose.
Some of you are right bastards aren’t you!
You know the (clearly stupid) saying "fight fire with fire?" Well, fight bastard with bastard, I say. 😁 Victory through superior firepoower.
(That was a genuine typo but I'm leaving it.)
I have the same problem, I'm assuming it's the same dog that decides to crap right outside my gate. Even though its access to 3 houses I'm always the 1 having to get rid of it. Have tried signs going up, didn't work. Unfortunately I don't know who the dog belongs to otherwise I'd be playing sh*te-alight on their doorstep and poo posting through their letterbox, if that didn't work I'd be smearing it over their front door or maybe even poo graffiti on the door
One day I'll find them and go total Liam Neeson on them.
Bar stewards
Victory through superior firepoower.
Next time the dog appears use a flamethrower on it?
Post pictures of the dog in action around the neighbourhood as part of a Wanted Irresponsible Owner campaign.
