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Does your car know about your sex life?

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Bit of a click bait title,  but considering the level of access cars have to phones and personal data,  this is a concern

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/sep/06/cars-collect-extensive-personal-data-on-drivers-study-warns

And who knew,  tesla are one of the worst


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 8:57 am
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I'll be honest, I expect everything collects extensive personal data these days, it's not much more surprising than people using water.


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 8:59 am
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The car isn't collecting anything, the company simply copy-pasted a standard information disclaimer blurb onto their privacy policy. At no point has a car company ever asked me for data on sexuality so they simply don't have it


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 9:02 am
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Renault were pretty open about the amount of data my car would be sending back, I can't work out how it would find out about my sex life though: no interior cams, rarely connect the phone, don't make much noise during sex... .


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 9:03 am
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Sex Life? 🤔


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 9:03 am
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It won't know much and that's assuming its processor is really quick


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 9:10 am
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no interior cams, rarely connect the phone, don’t make much noise during sex… .

If they recorded suspension movement?

There was a murder in Anglesey where the telematics from a landrover was pretty essential in proving their case.


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 9:10 am
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The seats have weight sensors to trigger the seatbelt warnings. They can tell if there are two of you getting bouncy on them.

The anti-drowsy sensors monitor your facial expressions so can probably tell if you are bouncy with the wife or girlfriend by how much you smile.

There are audio monitors to increase the volume of the radio as the interior noise gets louder so they can here your grunts/her squeals.

There are many timing devices so they can measure your duration,

Yeah, I reckon they could not only monitor your sex life but give you a performance score as well.


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 9:11 am
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[i]There was a murder in Anglesey where the telematics from a landrover was pretty essential in proving their case.[/i]

I remember from my youth that a young lady complained that it was murder having sex in the back of a Series II Landie. I had no idea that she was being literal.


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 9:13 am
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At no point has a car company ever asked me for data on sexuality so they simply don’t have it

This might interest you - can't say I've watched it but I read a synopsis a few weeks ago.

Bbc documentary


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 9:16 am
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I guess most data comes from when you connect your phone to the infotainment system and it harvests all your data...


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 9:22 am
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I agree that the connection of the phone to the car is likely an important source of all this data.
It is the 'can we peek at your app and browser data please' clause that achieves this - rather than a interior cam positioned to film you getting down to brass tacks.


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 9:31 am
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They can tell if there are two of you getting bouncy on them.

No they can't, most of them can't even distinguish between a bag of shopping and a person.

The anti-drowsy sensors monitor your facial expressions so can probably tell if you are bouncy with the wife or girlfriend by how much you smile.

Smiling with the GF at a guess. And also, no. They only work when you're driving.

Interior radar is a thing though.


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 9:37 am
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No they can’t, most of them can’t even distinguish between a bag of shopping and a person.

They can, they just choose not to.
It's why the seat belt alarm only ever goes off for shopping when there's nothing you can do about it.


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 9:38 am
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This one did once when I was much younger 😎


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 9:39 am
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Ha! My 2011 car can't even display the title of the track playing on my iPod, let alone collect data. Unless there's a little man in the glovebox stenographing my phone conversations.


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 9:41 am
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My car knows everything there is to know about my sex life. 2015 Polo.


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 9:46 am
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Polo? Pants off, legs open?


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 10:14 am
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I wondered why the sat nav kept trying to re-route me down Sunbridge Road every time I go into Bradford.


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 10:22 am
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It’s not my car I’m worried about, I think my memory foam mattress is trying to blackmail me…..


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 10:31 am
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Years ago, like student days, I had a mate with an old Honda Accord. The back seat was mouldy from being laid up in a damp garage, the upholstery was all mottled. It was pretty grim.

It was -years- later he confessed, it wasn't mouldy at all, rather it was the only place he and his girlfriend of the time had to go...


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 11:16 am
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My 19year old Berlingo knows I have no sex life. It doesn't need any sensors or AI - just being a Berlingo guarantee's it.


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 11:34 am
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I suspect my car has its suspicions, certainly Android Auto knows I've started seeing someone 😀

I'd like to think both are happy for me.


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 11:43 am
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I’d like to think both are happy for me.

😂


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 11:45 am
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I suspect my car has its suspicions, certainly Android Auto knows I’ve started seeing someone 😀

But it's OK, it's nothing Sirious.


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 11:56 am
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I found my car with all four windows down this morning… and I swear they were up last night. So I want to know about ITS sex life!


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 12:03 pm
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the track playing on my iPod

Your what?


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 12:04 pm
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My car is pregnant.


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 12:13 pm
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You sick pervert.


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 12:47 pm
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I've often wondered whether wrist based movement sensors kinda know whether you're having a hand shandy as well.


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 1:02 pm
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@cougar - it loves me and I love it 🙂

mos - you tend to wear your activity monitor on the opposite wrist to your "good" hand, so unless you're lucky enough to need both or it's a special treat with the wrong 'un, I wouldn't worry.


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 1:09 pm
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I’ve often wondered whether wrist based movement sensors kinda know whether you’re having a hand shandy as well.

Why do you think Garmin connect has a data field for "strokes"?


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 1:18 pm
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Would be great if something knew about my sex life...I definitely don't...
Every time I get those emails telling me they have filmed me watching stuff and doing things, I email them back asking to include me in the list so I can see what I've been missing...


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 5:57 pm
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Surely no one has sex with someone who drives a Tesla? Have you seen how awful those vehicles look?


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 7:16 pm
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@5lab

The car isn’t collecting anything, the company simply copy-pasted a standard information disclaimer blurb onto their privacy policy. At no point has a car company ever asked me for data on sexuality so they simply don’t have it

Yup, totally standard...

Nissan earned its second-to-last spot for collecting some of the creepiest categories of data we have ever seen. It’s worth reading the review in full, but you should know it includes your “sexual activity.” Not to be out done, Kia also mentions they can collect information about your “sex life” in their privacy policy. Oh, and six car companies say they can collect your “genetic information” or “genetic characteristics.” Yes, reading car privacy policies is a scary endeavor.

The original article goes into a bit more depth than that Graun copypasta

https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/privacynotincluded/articles/its-official-cars-are-the-worst-product-category-we-have-ever-reviewed-for-privacy/

And yes, it's mostly harvested from your phone either when you connect to the car or install the app. Interior cameras are fair game though.


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 7:21 pm
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<span style="color: #000000; font-family: Roboto, 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, 'Noto Sans', sans-serif, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, 'Segoe UI', 'Apple Color Emoji', 'Segoe UI Emoji', 'Segoe UI Symbol', 'Noto Color Emoji';">Why do you think Garmin connect has a data field for “strokes”?</span>

Some people Strava everything...


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 8:18 pm
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so unless you’re lucky enough to need both

Eh?


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 8:40 pm
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It’s why the seat belt alarm only ever goes off for shopping when there’s nothing you can do about it.

I had a habit of sticking my bag (often kayak gear or a weekend away stuff) on my passenger seat in my old knackered car.
When that hit the going to cost more to keep repairing than replace brought a shiny newish one.
First couple of weeks was fine but then went to visit family and had an alarm beep with a icon illuminating on the dashboard momentarily and too quick for me to see what was happening.
Took a few repeats before I figured it was the seat belt alarm when I was cornering over a certain speed.


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 9:24 pm
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My car knows everything there is to know about my sex life. 2015 Polo.

Mine doesn’t. 2019 EcoSport.


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 11:59 pm
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Some know more than others…

https://flic.kr/p/2p1xyW3


 
Posted : 08/09/2023 12:28 am
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Some people Strava everything…

Strav-aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

<Cue Hamlet Cigar theme>


 
Posted : 08/09/2023 10:45 am
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Strav-aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Sorry, this segment is to short to be created but we found these overlapping threads:


 
Posted : 08/09/2023 10:50 am
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At no point has a car company ever asked me for data on sexuality so they simply don’t have it

I read an article recently where a woman essentially claimed that Netflix knew she was bisexual before she did. It suggested that with enough data (millions and millions of users) you can collect info on things as simple as when people are watching movies/programmes, who the actors are, how long you watch the credits, or even just music included in the programme and not just the sorts of programmes that are explicitly aimed at LGBT+ folks.

With enough data points that can be measured against known indicators for folks that you do have accurate data, you can infer pretty accurately about your users for whom you don't


 
Posted : 08/09/2023 10:59 am
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With enough data points that can be measured against known indicators for folks that you do have accurate data, you can infer pretty accurately about your users for whom you don’t

Indicators? I thought that etiquette demanded headlamps off and flashing the interior lights. Or so I've been told...


 
Posted : 08/09/2023 11:05 am
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