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I got home this evening after spending two hours standing on a street corner with an elderly man who had fallen off his bike and broken his hip. The passers-by that offered help were amazing, but I was the first one there and the one to call the ambulance, so it was me that stayed with him.
I mention this because the man was incredibly active for his age, yet he was undergoing chemo for oesophageal cancer, and three years earlier had broken his ankle in a fall on a beach. Hearing this renewed my own sense of vulnerability, and reminded me of the fall I had this past Thursday, and that - as a consequence of it - I haven't felt entirely pain-free and good in myself since my accident.
Then, of course, the resurrected Froome thread reminded me of his thumb injury, incurred while he is recovering from his own massively traumatic crash.
Freud said that there is no such a thing as a pure accident - on the basis that we inflict on ourselves injury for one reason or another. Do we? Or is it all just coincidence? Or is it just that healing often takes far, far longer than we consider, and fail to account for the weaknesses we continue to bear?
Sh1t happens, just more happens to some than others. Just Luck. (I seem to get the sh1t)
His medical history, age and fraililty might.
Does one accident lead to another? Possibly.
All my major windsurfing and kitesurfing incidents have been when I've tried to play safe after a recent bad experience, whereas if I'd just done ridden normally I'd probably have been fine.
I think fear of consequence of failure can lead to that very situation.
Or is it all just coincidence?
Some are. Some you invite though, by fear sapping your confidence. And healing does take a long time for all sorts of reasons.
In fact, we could simply consider it change and growth rather than returning to some perceived healthy norm.
Definitely have noticed the phenonmenon of a near miss on the commute is followed by another one on the same ride. It's like the first one changes the way you ride.
Readily admit this could be bollox but it's something I think I've encountered several times - I don't rage my way in, either (like some of my fellow Manc commuters yelling at cars) so a near miss is rare for me, sticks in the mind.
IME yes, one accident/near miss/random event, does lead to another.
I couldn’t put my finger on a direct cause, but have noticed if i get one of the above, then another is on the way soon.
Hence the phrase ‘bad luck comes in threes’
If you have a near miss for example, regardless of who’s fault it is, it’s bound to affect you for the rest of the journey at the very least, whether you’re aware of it or not. Adrenaline etc.
Often wondered about, if I have hurt something I tend to hurt it again, for example fractured kneecap means bumping my leg on things more often. Not sure if a) reduced mobility making me clumsy and more prone to bumping into things or b) my knee really hurts and I notice the very minor which normally I would.
Could be more accidents, could be noticing things more
When we injure our bodies they weaken(even fully healed)..and then will keep injuring it..came off a curb and smashed my left side..my left knee still acts up sometimes..
And correct you try to be more careful..but it usually back fires and makes it worse..how I deal with that is near miss ='oh well let's just carry on normally'...and don't really get too many more(but have a habit of breaking to hard too early on semi hydraulic discs-spyre to rd/hd that flex under heavy braking.. ) so answer
Life happens just chill and carry on...its the safest way..
I don’t think so tbh. Just circumstances not working out for you. I spent years riding off road like a lunatic. Some big offs and never more than bruising, minor bleeding and cuts. Decided to start commuting to work about five years ago and on the third day fell off and broke my arm. Shit happens.
Now always - but sometimes yes. Somebody who used to ride in the same club as me some years ago took a big knock to the head in Morzine - air ambulance evac stuff.
He underwent a long recovery was never the same, and eventually a couple of years later was found unconscious under a bridge on his road bike, with no idea how he got there.
I am no medic - but those sound like linked events to me?
His medical history, age and fraililty might.
100% but especially now, broken hips are often a trigger for serious decline in the elderly. It was what finnished my father off.
2 hrs on the floor for an old man FFS 🙁🙁
Human's have a tendancy to assign agency ("things happen for a reason") to things that have none, and recognise patterns where none exists.
I've been pretty heavily involved with incident investigation for the last 4 years and quite often when two incidents happen quite close together, folk are very quick to spot a pattern and common causes where there none. Sadly senior executives don't really understand that 2 datapoints does not make a statistically valid trend.
How many times in your life has something gone wrong or you've hurt yourself but nothing else went wrong shortly after? You probably can't remember. You will remember the time someothing bad happened, then something else then another happened ("bad things happen in 3s". Thus confirming that your cursed and bad stuff happends to you.
When we injure our bodies they weaken(even fully healed)..
That's cobblers. Bone breaks heal stronger than the original due to extra bone mass where it fuses. As for soft tissue injuries if you rehab properly you can easily get back to full strength and go on to be stronger if you so desire.
What you possibly mean is people who haven't properly healed / done no rehab are still injured.....
Human’s have a tendancy to assign agency (“things happen for a reason”) to things that have none, and recognise patterns where none exists.
This. The odds of everything being evenly spaced out throughout life are astronomical. It's a mathematical probability that some things will group together. Doesn't mean they are interconnected.
A friend of mine is an oncology consultant. Her Dad (not that old) had a fall before the summer where he cracked is skull amongst other things.
A few weeks later he had another fall and bashed his head again. She's now put him in for a fall assessment and told me that the NHS try to find out why people are falling and to apply corrective action (physio, etc) as this will potentially extend the persons life.
So it seems that one accident can lead to another.
I was reading the other day that your balance deteriorates with age quite a bit, which is partly why old people have more falls. Combine that with osteoporosis and atrophied muscles and you have a recipe for unnecessary bone breaks. This all compounds itself as the extra time old people spend immobile in hospital with bone breaks causes yet more muscle loss and osteoporosis, thus making another severe fall more likely...
Stay active and lift weights is the best prevention (and yes octogenarians can squat and deadlift).
I am no medic – but those sound like linked events to me?
Why would they be?
I am no medic – but those sound like linked events to me?
I am medical trained and with the info you gave us it could be absolutely anything.
So why then, if you repair stronger is my right hand grip significantly weaker than my left hand grip.
Nothing to do with being right handed and snapping my u c l twice.... Ummm
So why then, if you repair stronger is my right hand grip significantly weaker than my left hand grip.
How many months rehab did you do?
Rehabbing your damaged hand to be as strong as your non damaged hand is part of the recovery process. E.g. after an ACL repair, you are not recommended to return to sport until you achieve equal strength in both limbs. NB You won't achieve that sitting on your arse waiting for it to miraculously appear.
I've had plenty of injuries and always got back to better strength and range of motion in that limb than I had before the injury. Takes months of rehab though.....
The biggest risk to re-injuring the same thing is returning to sport before you've fully recovered. You see it loads in things like professional football where the commercial pressure to get an asset back in play is very high. You also see it in Joe Blogss who thinks sitting on their arse waiting for the cast to come off is the entire recovery process; whereas that's when it really starts...
There are obviously exceptions where the damage is so great, it exceeds the bodies ability to heal, but that's the minority eg truck rolls over your leg and crushes the knee to powder, you might struggle to get full use back if they can save the leg at all....