[Closed] does lily allen have any talent?

Yes - decent pop music with no pretensions to be anything more

does [b]terrahawk[/b] have any talent ?

OF COURSE HE DOES

yes, song writing

singing however is not one of her talents

does lily allen have any talent?

Not a great deal, from what I've seen.

She does have a daddy who's in showbiz and who has influential chums, mind...

and what talents does [b]RudeBoy[/b] have beyond being very annoying ? (an attribute I also share 🙂 ?

Personally, I think as far as pop goes, she's up there with the the best in the talent realms.

Many, Simon, many.

But it would really annoy some people on here, to learn just how talented I truly am. Indeed, some might even mess themselves, such would be their anger.

I bet she could fart a mean National Anthem with enough baked beans...

that reminds me - did anyone see the return of Mr Methane the other night?

vile.

Oi! Naughty Mods! I saw that! 😉

what?

Many, Simon, many.

sadly [b]not[/b] including modesty...

No point in hiding one's light under a bushel, SFB.

Such gifts are surely there to be shared with others.

Such gifts are surely there to be shared with others.

not when #1 is eating your own bogies:-(

No, and you should stop doing that immediately, as it's unhygienic and may make you very ill.

Returning, briefly, to topic. As far as I can see, Ms Allen's talents lie in self-publicity and pop-tastic-ness. She does not have any talents that I value particularly, certainly no discernable talent for singing or writing anything but doggerel. However she clearly has talent of a sort as she is earning millions, and I'm not. 🙂

and she's cute :o)

She's got lovely eyes

RudeBoy - Member
No point in hiding one's light under a bushel, SFB

Or any electrical appliance under an archaic measure of dry grain!

She has a talented team of songwriters, producers and PR people.

Could we have an account of Rudeboys's talents, so that we will know when to call upon them in future?

I am sure I speak for many here when I say that discovering what Rudeboy's talents were would be less annoying than would realising that we had missed an opportunity to benefit from his talents through ignorance of them.

🙂

I think she's got bags of songwriting talent and I'm not a fan of most chart music. Her songs are witty, a little bit naughty and catchy as hell.
Her singing is kind of cutesy sweet, but I'll admit she hasn't got a very strong voice and it looks like singing live is hard work and sometimes a bit shaky.

She's also looking well-fit at the moment!

Don't believe anyone has changed the focus of this thread yet with a pic !?

Her music's OK, certainly no worse than an awful lot of other stuff. It's reasonably witty, they're catchy.

Dummy; if you mere mortals were to have knowledge of even a fraction of my immeasurable talents, your puny little inferior minds would simply implode, with the incredible magnitude of it all.

I've got a nicer bottom than Lily Allen. She is several years my junior, yet mine is perter and firmer. When she is my age, without a lot of effort, hers will be nowt more than a sagging protuberance, akin to that possessed by a Rhinoceros.

Don't believe anyone has changed the focus of this thread yet with a pic !?

Allow me:

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From an engraving by the immensely talented Mr Albrecht Dürer.

Who used to live in Hornchurch.

😯 That's good to know, thanks. I think.

I do beg to differ on the 'rear' statement !?

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I used to live in hornchurch but sadly i'm neither amazingly talented nor an engraver.

Talentless, vacuous, self absorbed London scenester.
Has the limited ability to read a rhyming dictionary and a thesaurus.

Daddy's big in the meeja.

I'd rather be molested by wombats (or nibbled to death by an okapi) than listen to her me, me, me coke induced delusions of adequacy.

She's 5' 2" though RB - damn those tall people eh?

🙂

Mine is still superior. Several ladies have testified to this fact.

I have been likened to a male 'J-Lo'.

Talentless, vacuous, self absorbed London scenester.
Has the limited ability to read a rhyming dictionary and a thesaurus.

Oi! That's not fair! I'm not vacuous! A bit constipated, perhaps, but not vacuous.

Eh? What?

Oh...

Yeah she's got plenty when compared to the vast majority of poptart outh pieces.

Also cute looking as a cute thing on a cute day

Oooh, thanks for the pic. I like her more now :o)

and didn't you admit to a "Winter belly" RB ?? If the front is sagging who cares about the rear ?

Erm, well, that's only a temporary situation, which will undoubtedly be rectified very shortly.

It's mostly wind, anyway. 😐

Erm, well, that's only a temporary situation, which will undoubtedly be rectified very shortly.

except you said that 2 months ago...

When the charts are full of cookie-cutter pop-soul acts who have swallowed the Maria Carey/J Lo style of warbling whole, and rely on either little more than fancy American Urban producer/writers or little more than kareoki machine backing, she at least has individuality and an instantly recognisable style. She's certainly pretty, has a nifty way with veiled invective, and to say she got where she is 'cos of her daddy is just lazy Daily Mail type comments. And no, I'm not actually a huge fan, I prefer the likes of Laura Marling, Gemma Hayes, Little Boots, VV Brown, Ladyhawke, Bjork, among many.

Shes got much more talent than all them Spice Slappers put together - and she always looks lovely and femenine on TV - a nice change

except you said that 2 months ago...

There has been a reduction. Normal bellytude will be resumed shortly.

and to say she got where she is 'cos of her daddy is just lazy Daily Mail type comments.

Because of course, Keith Allen badgering all his meeja mates had nothing to do with getting her stuff played, oh no... 🙄

I like her, and more so after that pic 🙂 Cute.

she looks talented enough to me

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No, she's crap.

There are [i]other[/i] photos of her, but you might get banned for posting them on here 😉

Her voice is so weak - it must get turned right up for recording.

munter.

Muggomagic, she's only in her late twenties yet look at her potential 'bingo-wings' in that shot ...

shes rubbish - from what I've seen of her I'd agree with RustySpanner, thought he put it very well

I have to agree with harry the spider - not only is she somewhat of a hound, she looks like a mouth breather. Talentless self absorbed coke hoover.

[i]she's only in her late twenties yet look at her potential 'bingo-wings' in that shot ... [/i]

[i]not only is she somewhat of a hound, she looks like a mouth breather. Talentless self absorbed coke hoover. [/i]

Sometimes, some of the posts on this site make me wonder about folk...Talk about bitter and resentful.

I've never liked her.

Her "singing" is not a patch on other women of her ilk (someone mentioned Bjork earlier who is, quite frankly, a legend) and her chat show was dire. It reminded me of The Word, but without the style.

Sorry, but even the "Cutesy" thing is not enough to make me like her.

[i]Her "singing" is not a patch on other women of her ilk [/i]

Bob Dylan can't sing for shit...

In these celebrity driven times, she has all she needs to be famous.
Her music is irritating cack. Not a patch on Girls Aloud in the [b]Pop[/b] stakes.
Cover of the NME...how times have changed...

yes, especially considering she wrote her 1st album herself (on the others she co-wrote) and you heard any of her live lounge stuff?

not my taste really, but its its decent pop and she isn't pretending to be someone else which is nice, as half the shit in the charts are just clones of US bands/groups.

more tolerable than some... but she's not Robyn

I think probably if dear Lily is still (?) a defining cultural figure in 45 years time we will forgive her hopeless singing voice, as we forgive Dylan his. But if we accept that every arrogant 20-something who can't really sing is effectively as great a musical talent as Dylan is then hell, I'm one as well. Where do I sign? 😉

oh I forgot, she does whine like only a Londoner can, which is annoying, but then again she doesn't whine nearly as much as RB which is a small mercy

amen to that

Her new single is utterly beyond parody: "It's not fair and I think you're really mean."

If you made that up to take the p*** people would think you weren't trying hard enough.

Agree with Big Dummy - She's an utter genius at self-publicity, punches well above her weight in terms of celeb rankings. The mouth of the south.

She's fun, her songs are sweet little ditties with hidden nasty barbs, she's an OK singer, and I'm surprised she's not even more popular.

ZOkes, what photos?

Seems fairly harmless, and she's not got a whiny northern accent, thank god.

isn't it rather ironic that a bunch of talentless nonentities criticise someone who isn't for being one ?

isn't it rather ironic that a bunch of talentless nonentities criticise someone who isn't for being one ?

I'm sure you'll have noticed I haven't criticised her 🙂

She does look like Jade Goody's little sister, though.

[i]But if we accept that every arrogant 20-something who can't really sing is effectively as great a musical talent as Dylan[/i]

I didn't say she was, I was merely making the point that singing ability and song-writing talent aren't necessarily the same thing, and Dylan's obvious lack of singing ability hasn't hampered his career. It just annoys me that apparently "because" her Dad is a minor Celeb it automatically means that she's had everything handed to her on a plate. Her Album sales alone would suggest that she's pretty popular. I'm just surprised at the level of misogynistic abuse aimed at her on this thread

No I would say, but she is individual and not afraid to speak her mind, which is refreshing in the world of pop!

Simon, I suspect if you take that argument to its logical conclusion then you will find that criticism of Paris Hilton, Jodie Marsh and other leading cultural icons of our age is impermissible. Despite being a person of no account myself, I am not really willing to accept that I have no right to say, of Paris for example, "I really do not see why you're interesting".

There are are two strands to this. Does the Allen person have any enduring talent [i]for music[/i]? And does she have a talent for something else? Clearly she is not a non-entity. But it seems unfair to outlaw the holding of the opinion that the reason she is not a non-entity is in fact that she is a well-connected self-publicist rather than a musical genius. 🙂

She does look like Jade Goody's little sister, though.

She looks like her father. Which isn't a nice thing to wake up next to.

I googled her lyrics after someone on here said about how good they were. ARE YOU HAVING A LAUGH?? These are good lyrics in the sense that Father Ted's eurovision song had good lyrics.

I am not really willing to accept that I have no right to say, of Paris for example, "I really do not see why you're interesting".

you may say it but it's kinda "So what?". I'm not outlawing anything, just drawing attention to the irony.

I don't care if folk don't like her music (what she's famous for on the face of it), and you can happily argue all day about her talent or lack of it, what grates is that it's apparently OK to make pretty stinging comments about [i]because[/i] she's 1) the daughter of Keith Allen, (not that she can help who her Dad is) 2) A [u]woman[/u] singer 3) reasonably, but not stunningly attractive.

I thought we'd left all that shit behind us...

She looks like her father. Which isn't a nice thing to wake up next to.

You speak from experience?!

It's light hearted, easy listening pop. She can sing reasonably well, she presents it in a nice way, she's reasonably attractive. She's no world-shattering musical genius or lyrical god, but certanly has more singing/musical talent than the vast majority of the population must, so I suspect that makes her talented.

Personally dont think the media has a lot to answer for on the whole promoting thin people thing, but people who suggest she has bingo-wings on the way or a fat arse really do have a distorted view of reality.

She looks nothing like Jade Goody.
She looks a little like her father - really, you dont say?!
She can't sing - in comparison with Pavarotti no, in comparison with most acts in teh charts - yes. In comparison with Bjork, hell yes.
She cant write lyrics - again, in comparison with most artists out there she's up in the top end. In comparison with simon and garfunkel - no.
Does she have connections in the business - of course. Is that the only reason she is successful, of course not - it was a helping hand though I'm sure!

She looks nothing like Jade Goody.

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well apart from both being female, that proves the point nicely.

I think she's got bags of songwriting talent and I'm not a fan of most chart music. Her songs are witty, a little bit naughty and catchy as hell.
Her singing is kind of cutesy sweet, but I'll admit she hasn't got a very strong voice and it looks like singing live is hard work and sometimes a bit shaky.

She's also looking well-fit at the moment!

I agree, except that I really like the music too. Her first album is a favourite of mine (No heard the second yet) A different sound that made me stop and listen, unlike all these modern pop guitar bands that I really can't tell one from the other - Keane, Snow Patrol and the like.

nickc - Member
I don't care if folk don't like her music (what she's famous for on the face of it), and you can happily argue all day about her talent or lack of it, what grates is that it's apparently OK to make pretty stinging comments about because she's 1) the daughter of Keith Allen, (not that she can help who her Dad is) 2) A woman singer 3) reasonably, but not stunningly attractive.

I thought we'd left all that shit behind us...

She didn't become famous because of her musical talent though did she? She became famous as Keith Allen's singing daughter.

Who has attacked her for being a 'woman singer'?

And if she is going to appear in ridiculous photos like the ones above which have no relevance to her music at all then she can expect to be ridiculed. [i]She[/i] is the one who is using her body to make money, so what do you expect? For us all to say, phwoarrrr, I'd do 'er/look at the face on that? Or to be sensitive, pc, 21st century metrosexuals and be ever so polite?

FWIW, I don't really mind her at all. Just puzzles me that people feel they have to defend things that aren't worth defending. She's only an average singer guys, find something else worth getting worked up about.

Sorry, don't see the visual link between Lily and St. Jade.

She's a *pop* singer and not a bad one at that. Who knows how she will develop in the future? But for now I quite enjoy her product for what it is, catchy pop music.

and I though she was made famous through facebook or myspace and got her recording contract through that. It was only afterwards she let everyone know who her dad was.

regardless, if you are a better musician than her, link to some of your stuff so people can judge for themselves if you are better than her, or STFU

An average singer/talent at best, but "The Fear" (her best track, imo) was an above average pop song which I quite liked.

[i]regardless, if you are a better musician than her, link to some of your stuff so people can judge for themselves if you are better than her, or STFU[/i]

Is this a special rule applying to Lily Allen, or does it also apply to, say, the Chancellor of the Exchequer or the Prime Minister? 🙂

Really cannot see the resemblance to Jade either, BTW...