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but I have a Ph.D and a very well paying job so does that help?
Keep talking you filthy beast!
Men teach you very young that you have little to interest them unless you are good looking, a really pretty woman walks in the room and everything changes in a guys behavior even though they think its not noticeable, it is. I recently worked with some models and it was fascinating as they took their looks and attractiveness utterly for granted in a very casual non egotistical way, they were really nice friendly women. Chatting with them was amazing as their experience of daily life and interaction with both men and women was so alien from mine that it was like looking into a different universe.
Interesting....I remember a female columnist laughing at another woman's view that she'd rather be clever than beautiful. Not that the columnist thought she was beautiful, she had just seen first hand, the effect a beautiful woman had on a room full of men. I've seen it myself where blokes just go weak at the knees and can't talk without stuttering.
As for me, I stopped getting 'looks' a few years ago which was quite disappointing, but I try and live with it now! 🙁
At 43 and with a beard that makes me look like a tramp that's been carelessly drinking TippEx to keep warm, I don't think that I can ever call myself anything other than tall.
For some reason though, my girlfriend seems to think I'm worth spending time with, so I can live with it.
Depends how you define attractive ..
Good looking? ..at 60 Ive seen better days but still have my own hair no longer jet black now (silver) & teeth not as dazzling as they used to be I'm 6'0" & 14.5 st ..but have had 3 long term relationships with women that were 'lookers' so must have been ok for a while ..my current partner is 16 years my junior who I met when she was 25 we have a 14 year old boy 6'1"..who is a bit of hit with the girlies and I have a daughter (from my previous) aged 26 who came 2nd in the Miss Sunderland contest a year or so back ..I like to think I passed on some of my genes but I'm probably deluding myself ..!
I'm very confident and straight talking which doesn't always go down too well ..but at my age I don't really care ..I guess on forums like this things can easily be taken the wrong way ..but I get on really well with most folks in person and like a laugh ..
Once I know you as a friend ..I would go out of my way to help in any way ..but equally drop you like a stone if you did me wrong.
Don't know how attractive any of that is ..but there you go .
My ugly mug shot is in my profile ..taken this year ..have a look if you want a laugh ..
I’m packing massive heat...at least 8/10 maybe 9....as hot as chips! 😀
Nope, for some reason i was a lot more attractive to the ladies as a 21 year old army officer with a 30" waist than i am now as a battered, metal pinned scarred tubby middle age man!
I always had that look that girls mothers would like me, not the girls, now it is the same as a middle aged man the only compliments i get are from the over 60's and that seems based on the size of my rugby lad thighs!
provocatively runs hand through hair
That can't be easy wot with your huge head and your short arms 🙂
Oh my goodness, no, I’ve never thought that. Luckily, the human race contains a small number of people who disagree.
Rachel
I remember Mark Radcliffe saying that If you're a bloke over the age of 40, then as far as society is concerned, you're effectively invisible
Suits me just fine, that 😀
I remember Mark Radcliffe saying that If you're a bloke over the age of 40, then as far as society is concerned, you're effectively invisible
Turns out not to be true.
The ladies in the changing rooms of the local sports centre quickly disavowed me of that notion.
Does the restraining order mention your handsomeness?
Apparently I tick all the boxes. looks, voice, girth, length etc.
Doesn't count for much as I'm happily married and she still wont let me get a new bike.
At 41 I am not good looking and tbh never have been. On the plus side think I am ageing well compared to some of my old school chums.
My best mate is a good looking bloke. When we were in our early twenties he pulled most nights much to the dismay of the rest of us
The ladies in the changing rooms of the local sports centre quickly disavowed me of that notion.
Them = cougar or you = [s]pervert[/s] lost?
Them = cougar or you = pervert lost?
Me = Not quite as invisible as Radcliffe would have me believe
Is Disappoint.
I'm alright from the shoulders down
I'm alright from the ankles down.
[quote="Jamie"]Also prone to deep rumblings.Oil starvation and his big end on the way out?
On the plus side think I am ageing well compared to some of my old school chums.
Yep, as a 50 year old I would say I would rank very highly - look around 40 and in very good shape (healthy vegetarian diet since 16 and cycling since 5)
However, once you bring in younger people then I am out.
On the plus side think I am ageing well compared to some of my old school chums
+1.
took my parents to their local a few years back, they point blank refused to believe that a guy at the bar was in my class. he looked early 50s.
I think he'd been at that bar a lot in the 10 years since we left school. 😯
Rockape63 -
Lots of different types of good looking blokes to be fair. Ive had very few man crushes, but this was my biggest!
Er, did I miss the question that this is answering?? 😯
Crikey - I have a close resemblance to BoardinBob - with more hair.
I do have a bodyshape that unfortunately retains my sporting history. I'm of average height and build, but have retained my "toned muscular" upper body & thighs from Rugby, yet do have skinny calves and drawn face from cycling/training. However, I'm let down by a slight stoop from a former broken vertebrae, odd mannerisms, a monotone voice, and one of those sense of humour's which some people "just don't get". I also apparently have a naivety toward women which has been termed "endearing" by more than one. Before I was married I literally fell into relationships I didn't realise I was having 😀
I feel much better for finally getting that out after 45 years.
Edit:. A rare pic
*Adds Kryton57 to Favourites*
Edit:. A rare pic
....duuude *shakes head*
....duuude *shakes head*
I know, sorry. That comes from me mistakenly leaving my web cam on after a conference call, then jumping on the turbo. I used that pic/clip for my FB pic, as I don't have anything more impressive and I don't rate myself to stick just my face up in public.
Er, did I miss the question that this is answering??
Just wanted everyone to know what they were up against when they were posting pics of themselves possibly hoping for admiring comments! 🙂
I'm short, with a tendency to gain weight, have a stupid round face and a horrible nose - when I was little, it used to upset me and I really wanted plastic surgery from the age of 9. My first boyfriend once said that he "tried to see past the way [I] look and focus on [my] personality".
Still, as my mom said, I'm lucky to be plain, as "you won't regret losing your looks as you get older as much". (She was Miss Pelsall 1960).
Mr Toast fancies me, but he's weird. Gorgeous, funny, but weird.
🙄 That is a very poignant post Mrs Toast! 😐
In reality Mrs Toast, the only thing that matters is the last bit.
And we all love you, obvs!
I'll freely admit that I'm punching way above my weight with Mrs Binners - she's gorgeous - and I don't know how the hell I've managed it. Not that I'm complaining 😀
i never thought so before however one of my collagues likened me to "eustace" from mountain men.
i had to google that .
how ever once i did i reckoned that put me firmly in the no catagory
Anyone else look in the mirror and think, ai, not bad, but then has a photo taken immediately after where you look like shreks warty nose? I really have no idea how that happens
Honestly? No. Stupid bags under my eyes make me look permanently knackered, crap ton of stress, heartache, depression and anxiety has aged me over the last 6 years, but still don’t quite look my age - I’m 40 in 2 months, today I got told I look early 30’s.
I’ve always ‘batted’ well out of my league, no idea how I do it..... No, not a humble brag! Genuine astonishment.... Mind, I’m nearly 40, single, so doesn’t say much about me
Sadly over the last 19 months I’ve had all self esteem and self confidence taken from me thanks to the ex, so i’ll rate myself 1.5/10 on a good day.
A few years back my female boss was told by one of the girls in the office that she reminded her of someone. Oh she said, smiling and preening....who?
After some thought, she said...I know, Jo Brand!!
The temperature in the office dropped a few degrees right there! 😀
Reminds of the time Mrs Trailwagger asked what I rated her out of ten. She went ballistic when I said 7.5! I thought that was a good score, how wrong was I.
Not rating myself- not for me to.
The OH flutters her eyelids on a regular basis, goes “phwoar” a lot and grabs my arse in public.
Seeing as she’s a genuine hottie (as in blokes walking into things and other women looking too) I’m doing something right 8)
That is very funny trailwagger.......how quickly we learn eh? 😀
That's exactly the image I had of you in my head Saxon rider.
Overall I'm pretty average but I have some good bits - tall, blonde (ahem), decent rack, nice skin. All offset by a big bum, big nose and some solid thighs 😆
I am definitely punching, though - husband is a solid 9 and could probably be a model.
I love a good group photo when I’m it. I’m that pale that it looks like a haunting is taking place. I might start dressing in olde time clothing to add to the effect
Show yourselves 🙂
Go on, go on, go on........
That's exactly the image I had of you in my head Saxon rider.
me too! 🙂
That's exactly the image I had of you in my head Saxon rider.
In my more accurate image, he's wearing a funny hat.
I used to think I was ugly, but looking back at old photos, face wasn't that bad.
Now I'm grey and the wrong side of 55, I would say 3/10 ( for my age). You might as well be a piece of dog poo on a bridle way after hitting 45 as a female.
Got some great male and female friends though, who aren't into looks and accept me for who I am.
Houns - I've seen a photo of you, you're a 9/10
I'm a 2 at 10 and a 10 at 2
I think I am a solid #2.
My mates call me Dowie , As I resemble Ian Dowie the footballer / manager.
I avoid mirrors where possible.
Plus points .- flat stomach
Negatives.- Ginger , balding , bad posture , big ears , wonky nose.
might explain the 20 years of singledom
I've never had a particularly high opinion of the way I look. Looking back over old photos I wasn't a bad looking kid, wish I'd known that at the time.
Now mid 40s and a skinny Northern wretch. Full head of hair though and most of my own teeth (and no-one else's) so that's a win I suppose.
Someone mentioned earlier about there being a difference between being beautiful and being attractive, and I think that's bang on the money. I've known ladies who are stunningly beautiful but as attractive as a hole in the head, and ones who were pretty plain looking but sexy as all hell. I don't doubt the same is true of us guys.
Them = cougar or you = [s]pervert [/s]lost?
I can attest that I wasn't there letching at PP.
Anyone else look in the mirror and think, ai, not bad, but then has a photo taken immediately after where you look like shreks warty nose? I really have no idea how that happens
Aye, sounds familiar.
You might as well be a piece of dog poo on a bridle way after hitting 45 as a female.
Nooooooo - I thought 45 was prime time!
Looking back over old photos I wasn't a bad looking kid
Is how I feel -although I am also vertically challenged which I am sure went against me when I was eager, but it was my painful shyness in front of anyone remotely attractive that did for me.
Confidence isn't it? It's all about confidence..
We may think we look like the back end of a Sheep on heat but in reality we/you could carry that off if you had the confidence too..
What is the term? Inadequate Self Image or some such..
Ghah! I went through the sodding early 90's with this God awful book strapped to my left eyebrow, we all did it was the "thing to do" in business, we were told we needed it and that it would "make us happy" FFD to today and it's all about "Mindfulness" so each decade brings forth a new "buzz word" and "mantra" and "plan or format" to which we MUST live our lives.... like we've nothing better to do with them than [i]follow the righteous path[/i]
I bring you NLP and Self Image.. Read this if you have 10mins of your life to spare.. doesn't really say anymore than you know already but fail to recognise..
Self-image
To put it simply, our self-image is how we see ourselves, not how we think others see us, in terms of our own abilities, physical appearance, and personality. We act, feel and behave according to our self-image. But our self-image does not accurately reflect who we are but rather who we think we are. In order to control our actions, feelings and behaviour so that they express precisely who we actually are, we need to understand who we are and how our self-image was formed.
Our past conditioning and experiences together make up our self-image as it is today. Unfortunately, most of us have an inadequate self-image due largely to our subconscious mind not being discriminatory or selective and just accepts all the input regardless of whether it is of value or not for acceptance. To maintain our positive self-image and personality today, we have to be watchful for any entry of negative input, whether from within or without, into our mind.Our self-image determines the outcome of what we do. It all depends on whether we have a positive or negative self-image. If ours is positive, we tend to be confident and optimistic. If we feel we are going to succeed or interact very well with other people, the possibilities are greatly increased that we will succeed or will interact well. If, on the other hand, our self-image is negative, negative thoughts fill our mind. If we think we are going to fail or are not sociable, chances are we will fail or are likely to be unwilling to engage readily with other people.
Our self-image either causes us to lead a happy and successful life or a miserable life, in which we believe we are inadequate, lacking in intelligence, incompetent, etc. Other people may hold us in high regard and disagree with our belief but we continue to live our lives in accordance with our negative self-image. One way to enjoy a better self-image, and thus a better life, is to change our self-image by changing our thinking. Unless we do that, our negative self-image remains unaltered, and we continue to lack confidence in our own worth and abilities.
Understand that our self-image accepts whatever is put into it. It does not differentiate good stuff from bad stuff that goes into it. Neither does it differentiate the sources of the input whether external or internal. If internally, we fill it with bad stuff, we get a negative self-image, and it is a positive self-image if we fill it with good stuff. The majority of us unwittingly create a poor self-image by placing wrong materials in it.
External sources play a part in the creation of our poor self-image. This comes from an accumulation of bad experiences or nasty remarks from other people. When we have a poor self-image, we tend to think other people are better than we are in many ways. But because we believe what we think, it makes us feel inadequate, anxious, nervous, small, etc. in the presence of other people. We may even start labeling ourselves such as, “I am a dumbbell”, “I am a nobody”, etc. If this is the way we see ourselves, we tend to act and behave accordingly. Our actions and behaviour reflect what our self-image is.
Much can be done to adversely affect our self-image by other people's attitudes towards us. Sometimes, how unfairly people treat us is beyond our control. We can only wonder why. We mean to be sincerely friendly to someone, but we get shunned by them. We kindly volunteer our help but our offer gets rudely rejected. Some people unjustly blame us when we can see it’s not our fault. But they can’t. Whatever their behaviour or reactions, we must never allow them to weaken our self-image. We can prevent this by not interpreting their behaviour or reactions in any way. Promptly forget them and move on.
People who are handicapped suffer from lasting poor self-image. They feel hopeless and helpless and experience low levels of self-worth, self-confidence and self-esteem. They feel restricted in ambitions and mobility. Their lack of motivations limits their roles in many areas. Their low self-image is a direct result of endless limited thinking. To rectify this, they must introduce new conditioning to change their belief about what is possible for them in life.
As long as we maintain the same self-image, there is no possibility of us acting differently. Since childhood, our experiences, assumptions, perceptions, ideas, opinions, thoughts and beliefs have been shaping our self-image. Many, if not most, of these factors have been false, exaggerated or biased. But to us, they are all true because we accept them as true even though they may not be true, and we live our lives as though they were true.
It does our self-image no good to go around appeasing and pleasing other people. In the process, we transform ourselves into yes-men. We are likely to be mercilessly exploited. People take us for granted. The more we appease them, the more they demand. The only times they get in touch or communicate with us is when they need us to do them some favours. We usually try to appease others for some reasons, either we fear rejection if we incur their displeasure or she is pretty attractive and we fall for her. Being subservient to others can only harm our self-image.
It is very important that what we say to ourselves has to be done carefully. What unfavourable comments we pass about ourselves are treated as true by our subconscious mind even if they are untrue, so are insulting remarks from other people, which we must reject lest they are accepted by the subconscious. We must make use of self-talk to strengthen or support our self-image.
Self-talk is the way we talk to ourselves, maybe regularly or, from time to time. We use positive affirmations in our self-talk to program our subconscious mind. By using self-talk, we exercise control over how we act, feel and think.
Fortunately, our self-image is amenable to input not only in the forms of self-talk but visualization as well. We can transform our own image into visual image which we can see with our mind’s eye. This makes it easier to use visualization to change our self-image. We do it by consciously creating and seeing the desired mental images of what we want ourselves to be. For example, we can mentally picture ourselves as a sociable participant in a social gathering or a good, confident speaker on stage before the event takes place. We have to do it continuously in order for it to be effective. Make a habit of constantly visualizing the outcomes that you truly want.
There are other things that can make a positive contribution to our self-image. Practise good personal hygiene of keeping our body clean. Pay particular attention to our external appearance like always keeping ourselves perfectly groomed, and exercise wise choice of clothes. Get involved in some physical activities in order to stay healthy. Try to do, say, fifteen minutes of gentle exercise every day. Act as if we had the desired feeling and let the action make the feeling our reality.
We must keep on changing and improving our self-image. After all we are not perfect. We can only strive to be as near to perfection as we possibly can. Most people hold on to their self-image, thinking or believing that it’s a perfect one, needing no further changes, so they act and behave in the same old way. If they have the right perception of themselves, they can see the changes that are needed to correct their faults and weaknesses.
Im quite self depreciating about my looks and have never considered myself overly handsome. However, given the high volume of quality snatch I get to smash.. I reckon I must be at least a 9..
My body shape can only be described 16 stone of mince badly stuffed into a condom.
My looks - think bastard child of Robbie Williams and Shrek.
@ rockape63 & Kryton57:
Oi! I said that’s what I thought of myself when I am at my worst.
This is actually me:
(Forgive the Rapha; it was secondhand. And yes, as perchy will attest, I have other hats stranger to this group than the yellow one above.)
I’m a 5. My wife is a 7.
It’s a fact that you can’t marry anyone more than +/-2 from your position. Impossible. Anyone who claims otherwise is misguided.
So how does a 5 bag a 7 you ask? Well it’s about height. My wife is tall, so she immediately ruling out 95% of the male population, as it’s another fact that women prefer taller men. I’m luckily 6’3” tall, so just used it to my advantage to hunt down a tall 7. And in my younger years I could probably have passed as a 6 (I had hair when we met). My wife has maintained her 7, even after three kids.
You were doing so well SaxonRider - going for the rugged outdoorsman look, until the second picture with the trimmed beard and Rapha selfie.
You disgust me, sir.
*Saxon looks a lot like my Romanian photography mate... 😆
You're real name ain't Inacul is it??? 😯
SaxonRider.This is actually me:
Fake news. No one on STW looks like that. 😉
as perchy will attest, I have other hats stranger to this group than the yellow one above.)
Ssssshhhhh! First rule of Hat Club.....
Pics or it didn't happen!
It's almost impossible to tell your own attractiveness as you are so numbed to your own face, but maybe a 5? Maybe less? - I've got a broken nose and thinning hair. Mrs Tarka is much higher - I punch WELL above my weight for which I am endlessly thankful!
Think Uncle Festers evil twin...
I paid for Tinder for a month and it was quite funny seeing that I got quite a few right swipes from some very attractive ladies.
On the actual dating sites though I mostly got older women 🙁 Or women saying they were hopelessly romantic even though I had plainly put that I was hopeless in that area 🙁
With someone now so that's all stopped.
Good job too as the cat nearly took my eye out the other month so now I have a scar from it!
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If we pull our finger out, we could have a STW Hot Studs calendar in shops before Xmas.
Too hot for you lot.
Don't think you can tell whether someone of the same sex (ual persusion) is attractive or not.
I've met ladies that think Nicola Sturgeon is attractive !!!
Hmm,I look fairly young for my age (49) but I feel I’m looking a bit battered round the edges. My best point is good thighs from 40-odd years of cycling and other exercise though that’s given me broad shoulders and huge hands too!
In a word... No
I was alright when I was younger and slim at 18 and then was in a relationship until I was 26.
So now Im single, fat with 2 kids and no experience of dating as an adult.
I find that women around my age either; Dont want kids so that scares them off, already have kids so no time/too complicated or want kids but their own and get put off by me already having some.
But thats from a very small sample as there arent many that get past looking at me
My ex earlier....
Around my local galloway town i'd say i was a very solid 8, possibly 9 if i shave, get a haircut and dress in something other than what i can find cheap on sport pursuit, however if i venture to the nearest city such as glasgow/edinburgh i am a very average 5, possibly verging on 3 after a night at the sub-club.
I think all potential partners of a 'cyclist' need to be carefully vetted for suitability, attractive or not. The pain and heartache we put our families through by riding with our injuries (mine have been bloody car v bike) not me being stupid and doing a 2cm jump... 😆
In addition to the above comparison I put in earlier I've also this month been compared to
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So I concur with my earlier conclusion of no ahha.
And another mate who I hadn't seen for a few weeks said " you look more and more Canadian every time I see you "..... Now sure if he's calling me fat haha
Regardless of which Southern/Eastern European country I'm holidaying in, the locals all speak to me in their native tongue, so I guess I must look a bit exotic. More kebab-shop-owner-exotic than male-Mata-Hari-exotic, but it works for Mrs Flying Ox.
Wearing shirts is problematic, I can't drive.
I'm not allowed in Milan, New York or Japan.














