[Closed] Do you keep a weapon handy at home

Glock 21

This thread is enlightening and a bit concerning

Anyway, I've got noisy dogs, they would never bite anyone, but make enough noise for them to go next door.

This thread is enlightening and a bit concerning

Hopefully, you realised that my ‘assaults with a deadly sex toy’ posts were meant to be taken as a joke.

Not an issue. I live in a secure psychiatric unit.

I have a gimp mask and the fist master 5000 with upgraded jackhammer setting. Everyone runs, very fast

To your house? I’m on me way, I’ll bring the butter!

Did you mean you're coming?

I am

I have a couple of bokken behind a load of clutter in the spare room. I sometimes wonder if I would ever think to use one and under what circumstances.

I have actually been attacked by intruders in my home on two separate occasions.
The first time there was a baseball bat in the house which a friend attempted to use to defend himself, but it was taken from him and used against him.

I still manage to sleep with the house unlocked most nights although we have a very noisy dog now.

...neither me or any neighbours ever being attacked on the doorstep I'll take the chance of not being tooled up

There's also the distinct possibility of having your own weapons used against you, if you were ever to find yourself in a sketchy situation.

Especially if you're swinging a bit bat around, as it wouldn't be all that difficult for someone quite handy to disarm you.

edit: Snap. As Yunki said...

Watch you don't peg out jamj.

Sandwich - Member
Watch you don't peg out jamj.

Ouch! No thanks!

I've got an unbelievably argumentative 9 year old I can deploy at a moment's notice.

tell them they are stealing the wif fi for maximum rage attack points.

Meat cleaver in the top of wardrobe, only need to hit them once or twice, but that’s only if they come into the bedroom.

I got beat up in a pub when I was a teenager. There were rumours that the blokes were after me so that I couldn't act as a witness (as they were getting thrown out of the pub they seriously injured the DJ). I used to wake up from drunken nights out with a lump of wood with nails sticking out under my bed. Turns out I was quite a paranoid drunk!

Nowadays the front and back hallways resemble the shoe department at TK Maxx on a Saturday afternoon. An intruder will unwittingly break their neck before they get to the non existent family riches.

All this talk of front door protection.....
What if the scoundrel is hell bent on smashing your back doors in ?

Have a number of bows around the place upstairs. Could be pretty devastating, but not at close range, and assembling and/or stringing them might be an issue if the instruder can move quicker than a snail.

Probably have to grab an arrow and stab instead...

What if the scoundrel is hell bent on smashing your back doors in ?

I'd recommend relaxing.

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I would never chase some wee d1cks out of our close for setting fireworks off with a piece of 2x2 with a nail hanging out of it whilst being upstaged my my neighbour who rocked up with a Samaria sword. Nope, that never happened. Gotta love Glasgow.

The one time someone tried to force their way into my house I punched him in the face and slammed the door on his arm. I felt like a badass. Was then anxious four the next 6 months that he'd come back tooled up to deal with my bad assery with a suitable selection of guns/knives/siege weapons. He never did, but I still worry. Though I possibly broke his arm.

I suppose I could 'have at' a would-be assailant with an ill-tuned ukulele?

Just play it, he'll leave

My wave around deterrent was the timing chain from a jawa 350 when I lived where such things were needed.

This is such a funny thread - loving all the posts. I think most of you need one of these:

Nothing at home but I do have a lot of stuff at the shop which was easily to hand when the riots were on.
Not that anything happened but the first herbert through the door was getting a shovel in the face.
The cops came around and gave us all a rules of engagement leaflet and buggered off!
I didn’t need to be attacked , just to feel threatened before I could splat someone.
Something definitely stirred in me and was slightly disappointed when the arseholes couldn’t be bothered to leave Sutton.

I've asked about the paperweights, it's because we agreed they look nice there.

There's also half a dozen chilli plants, two and a half pairs of walking poles, four random wooden walking sticks, two large purple windmill lawn ornaments and 18 pairs of footwear.

Just the usual throwing stars, nunchucks, you know for dealing with overzealous Jovos and charity collectors.

It's not Surrey round hear. Everyone's got a muppet tenderiser next to the door for dealing with cartoon Rambo's like this.

Spud gun.

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Burglars will probably head to the kitchen and pick up one of your Wushtof (sp) chef tools or stab you in the eye with a pointed stick.

Weapons in your house ffs who are you and what are you expecting?

Everyone's got a muppet tenderiser next to the door for dealing with cartoon Rambo's like this.

I think the rumour was this guy was an ex-SAS guy. Probs shit all truth in that but fair play to him.

I reckon a high lumen bike light and a tin of sand are as good a defence as anything. Your enemy can't see you, he can't fight. YES SENSAI

Nothing at home but I do have a lot of stuff at the shop which was easily to hand when the riots were on.

Ha, that reminds me of a time in my old shop - I was busy brazing, oxyacetylene torch in hand, when a dodgy-looking lad ran in with a kitchen knife. He took one look at the 2' blue-hot flame and ran out again 😀

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I've a Tesco security guard in the loft 😆

I am a weapon.......of mass consumption thou, they wouldn’t get far in our hose without tripping over the amazon/CRC packing strewn around the passage.

I don’t begrudge anyone having a maglite about is as it’s actually useful anything else seems a tad overkill and likely to end up either over your head or stuck in you.

Having a dog which goes barkshit mental if he hears a mouse fart seems to be more useful , although I do seem to spend a lot of time in my pants in the garden in the early morning keeping the thing happy.

me personally, no. I find the house alarm is defence enough but Danny, the captain of my old Croydon Sunday league football team keeps a 'commemorative Celtic FC baseball bat' that he [url= http://www.itv.com/news/london/2014-10-24/croydon-pub-landlord-fights-off-would-be-burglars-with-a-baseball-bat/ ]occasionally gets to use[/url] as the landlord of a pub in Croydon (ff the you tube vid to 1:40).

I was right back and he was centre back for about 4 seasons. His defending was a bit heavy handed too, just like this video.

Just a pencil.

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no weapons but i do keep my windmill arms at the ready

Naked is your best weapon against thugs and burglars ..... if your naked they don’t know what your going to do next

I keep a rounders stick in the landing cupboard with the other sports stuff. The last time I used it was when somebody was snooping in my Garden and the dogs went off, turned out to be a Policeman trying to catch a burglar. I think it's sensible to have a cudgel around the place.

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I'm sure it's already been said, if you got a weapon you need to be willing to us it and know how to us it. Most people who choose a crime lifestyle are often comfortable with a degree of violence that normal people are not. Don't expect someone who has chosen burglary as a career to immediately back down if you wave a weapon about.

OP, how about fitting a spy hole or camera intercom, then you can decide if you even want to open the door.

I would have said no, but since we got broken into twice in a fortnight I've gone [i]slightly[/i] paranoid and without fail, whenever I go to investigate a suspicious noise or one of my cheap alarms going off for no reason, I always end up with the same 3 foot breaker bar, and an old LED torch I have with a ludicriously powerful strobe mode, in my hands.

spursn17 - Member

I know someone who once went downstairs to confront a burglar with a Nerf gun!

Hah, to be fair I could do worse than to take out my ludicrously powerful modded one- load it with those really dodgy cheap bullets I got from china and you don't want to get shot in the eye with it 😆 If it was an air one it'd be illegal but because it's electric it's fine

Have an assegai in my bedroom wardrobe, just in case any lions are roaming the great rift valley of Stockport.

After visits from prospectors followed by one break-in whilst I was at work, I kept a two-foot length (small lobby space) of broomstick handle, rounded off at both ends, by the door.

One jab to the diaphragm would do it.

Since leaving South-East Ruritania for hazy, lazy Andalucia, I've doubted that i need it anymore.

Still keep it in the cupboard though. You never know.

In my current house, I have not once (touch wood) felt any need for any protection. In my last one, however, I was flipping paranoid.

We lived through one attempted break in, and while we had always felt vulnerable before this, afterward I think I never slept easy again.

The thing is, I have always been afraid of the idea that any weapon I might wield could be easily taken from me and used against me.

Of the flight, fight, freeze possibilities, I'm definitely a freezer. 🙁

Do you keep a weapon handy at home

Yes, but the missus keeps telling me to put it away.

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me personally, no. I find the house alarm is defence enough but Danny, the captain of my old Croydon Sunday league football team keeps a 'commemorative Celtic FC baseball bat' that he occasionally gets to use as the landlord of a pub in Croydon (ff the you tube vid to 1:40).

I was right back and he was centre back for about 4 seasons. His defending was a bit heavy handed too, just like this video.

Best bit of that is the article stating that he 'chased the burglars away' 😆 I saw it more as 'beat the living shite out of!' He looked knackered from the effort of repeatedly smacking the second bloke!

Jeez where do you lot live???

I've never felt the need for a weapon by the door or in the car. Though I do have Marmite at the foot of the bed.

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After visits from prospectors followed by one break-in whilst I was at work, I kept a two-foot length (small lobby space) of broomstick handle

You must work [b]very [/b]close to home if a two-foot stick is enough.

I remember my Grandad used to keep a truncheon hidden in the fake flowers by his front door. He led quite a colourful life so I suspect this was destined more for people he knew, than a random stranger.

My 92 year old Nan keeps my Grandads old truncheon beside her bed.

Bianchi-Boy - Member

Jeez where do you lot live???

What does it matter. The concern is the same whether you live in an inner city shit hole or a 6 bedroom country home with an acre of land around it, you may be the unlucky victim of a burglary.

But really as above there's no point carrying anything unless you can be certain you won't hesitate to use it. God knows what it's like to face someone down with a lethal weapon that could potentially kill or disable with one blow. Chances are you'll choke and end up getting beaten with it.

Edit: Also, there are a million fights on youtube and particularly Worldstarhiphop, many involving weapons. They are often random and unpredictable and when people do get hit in the head with bats and weapons it can be horrific.

I happen to have 2 x kukhris in the house but not explicitly as self defence weapons. I've always thought a paintball gun would be a good deterrent - decent range, non lethal but hurts like hell especially in the face.

What does it matter. The concern is the same whether you live in an inner city shit hole or a 6 bedroom country home with an acre of land around it, you may be the unlucky victim of a burglary.

Of course you are right. My point was that anywhere in the UK is relatively safe.

Bianchi-Boy - Member

Of course you are right. My point was that anywhere in the UK is relatively safe.

Well, the risk of a mobile phone charger exploding and burning the house down is relatively low, but I still unplug all (of my wife's many) chargers before going to bed. The risk of flooding is pretty low but I check the drains are clear. The risk of burglary is statistically pretty low too but any sensible person should lock their doors, add security lights...perhaps an alarm.

The "weapon under the bed scenario" is only relevant if a burglar isn't content to just take your tv and laptop. They decide to get some mobile phones, your wife's jewelry, perhaps those nice watches you have. Are you willing to let someone put you and your family in a ransom situation and hope they'll just leave when they've taken all your stuff? It's even less likely but it's much more serious.

The bat under the bed might never get used, it might be an utterly pointless addition to your home security but a simple stick might also allow you to match the man coming up the stairs and convince him to leave before he subjects your wife and children to a terrifying ordeal.

It's not Surrey round hear. Everyone's got a muppet tenderiser next to the door for dealing with cartoon Rambo's like this.

All that because his wheelie bin was too close to his motorbike.

I've got a 1968 BSA Airsporter (paid about£30 for it new & brought it home on the bus) in the cupboard under the stairs. I could always cock it & pull the trigger but nothing would come out except air.
The pellets are in the garage somewhere.

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My wife used to suggest I keep my cricket bat handy near the bed after we moved to oz. I did point out that if I had cause to use it in the hallway, I'd have to ask the intruder to step back outside so I'd have room to swing the thing. Not exactly practical! 😆

Only needed one once. Lived in a student house in Reading. Had a break in, was sure he had gone but my housemate thought she heard a noise and sent me to investigate. Only 'weapon: to hand was my chain whip, 8" steel bar with12" if chain on the end. Looked scarier than it was,likely to have done more damage to my knuckles than to him. Fortunately I was right and he had gone.
Have climbing gear in the bedroom so an ice axe is readily at hand but has never been called upon for this and I don't expect it to be.

The risk of burglary is statistically pretty low too but any sensible person should lock their doors, add security lights...perhaps an alarm.

Yes of course, all very sensible and advisable actions but that is a world apart from what some are suggesting on this thread.

And how far do you take it? Do you have a weapon in the car too? Or just under the bed? What about when you are walking home from the pub? What about if a mugger jumps out and threatens you and yours?

And finally, I've never been much of a fighter, I doubt that a baseball bat in my hands would change that.

What about when you are walking home from the pub? What about if a mugger jumps out and threatens you and yours?

In the old days you could carry cane that concealed a handy sword for dispatching said blaggard in such a situation.

I have only suffered attempted mugging twice, once by two men with a knife who after my continued insistence I had nothing worth stealing on me which I did not gave up, this was pre mobile phone.

Another time a teenager approached me with a Rottweiler and said if I did not give him my money he would set his dog on me, I responded by petting his dog which was as soppy as shite. To which he started shouting don't stroke my dog Before walking off swearing under his breath.

Though I do have Marmite at the foot of the bed.

Pretty sure he is the antithesis of the food product. Who could hate him? Looks ace.

Bianchi-Boy - Member

The risk of burglary is statistically pretty low too but any sensible person should lock their doors, add security lights...perhaps an alarm.

And how far do you take it? Do you have a weapon in the car too? Or just under the bed? What about when you are walking home from the pub? What about if a mugger jumps out and threatens you and yours?

The same logic doesn't apply because a mugger (rationally speaking) has no reason to assume that you have all of your worldly possessions on you and that you will be in a position to hand them over if they just leverage enough force/threat of force.

Similarly with a car you can give them the car, no car thief is then (rationally) going to decide to torture you for possessions you might have hidden in the car.

And finally, I've never been much of a fighter, I doubt that a baseball bat in my hands would change that.

It might not for a lot of people, I'm just trying to explain why some people might decide to have some form of weapon around the home for a worst case scenario.

People answer the door when they’re not expecting someone? There’s your problem.

I have a PR 24 under the bed and an old gerber lock blade in the bedside cabinet drawer which I got from a PX. They will never leave the house and I pray that I never have to use either. I never had anything before jnr came along. Couldn't give a stuff about possessions, they can have them. I doubt I'd use either unless someone decided to climb the stairs.

The same logic doesn't apply

Don't be silly, of course it does. The question (managed or perceived risk assessment) is not about the circumstances. It is about the value to you of what is threatened. Child/watch collection/boyfriend/girlfriend)

You are up in the bedroom (your scenario) and you have to decide how to protect you and yours. Or you are in the car and you have to decide how to protect you and yours. Or you are on the street and you have to decide how to protect you and yours. How you react is your decision. Fight or flight. It's pretty basic.

The same logic doesn't apply because a mugger (rationally speaking) has no reason to assume that you have all of your worldly possessions on you

So do you go out tooled up ready for any thieving scumbag/mugger that might cross your path or do you just go out and have a nice night with the lady/bloke that you love?

Anyway, I'm out of this silliness. I do not think I am Rambo, I love my family and look after them, and I have spent 12 years writing risk ass plans for HRO and Indeterminate Sentence for Public Protection Off plans so what do I know?

I think I would play free form jazz very loudly.

If it didn't drive them away it has the effect of making me very, very angry.

Any you wouldn't like me when I'm angry.

Bianchi-Boy - Member

The same logic doesn't apply

Don't be silly, of course it does. The question (managed or perceived risk assessment) is not about the circumstances. It is about the value to you of what is threatened. Child/watch collection/boyfriend/girlfriend)

Only if you break it down into the most grossly basic components.

You are up in the bedroom (your scenario) and you have to decide how to protect you and yours. Or you are in the car and you have to decide how to protect you and yours. Or you are on the street and you have to decide how to protect you and yours. How you react is your decision. Fight or flight. It's pretty basic.

In your house with your family you in a certain sense trapped. Flight is not really a realistic option unless you feel you can some how evade or stun the intruder, collect your family members then flee your house into the night.

In your car or in the street there are obviously a myriad of potential hypothetical situations but flight is probably a more realistic option in most scenarios. Especially in a car. You're trying to dismiss any validity or rationality for having something to hand in the house by making a fallacious comparison with the rest of normal life.

so what do I know?

Well I guess you know that a mugging is different from a burglary at least.

Well, here at home I have a bunch of nice sharp kitchen knives, in my living room I have a couple of wicker baskets, one of which has several axes in it along with other sharp blades which I sometimes use for carving, behind the couch is a walking stick with a carved harpy eagle head on the top which could cause some damage, especially the hooked beak, and upstairs, and more useful, I have a number of very bright flashlights with strobe functions which would prove highly distracting to anyone sneaking up the stairs.
There’s also the Kukhri my dad was given by a Gurkha out in Singapore after he was released from Changi, the blade is a bit corroded, and the sheath has come apart and needs restoration, but it’s bastard sharp, and as it’s designed as a close-quarters combat weapon, highly effective on anyone coming up the stairs who wouldn’t be able to see anyone in any of the upstairs rooms, or standing behind the bannister rail at the top...
I’d be perfectly prepared to use it, from the higher defensive position the advantage is all mine.
There’s also a small block of metal I obtained from somewhere as a paperweight, that’s remarkably heavy for its size, no idea what it is, could be tungsten, but just dropping it on an intruders head would cause him to take stock of the situation.
Once he wakes up, probably in A&E...

I have a keyboard under the bed, aint nobody gonna mess with a keyboard warrior!!!!!!

Have we heard from Muddydwarf yet?
🙂

People answer the door when they’re not expecting someone? There’s your problem

Just shoot them on the lawn before they get to the door...

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