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Next base from Halfords, £150 and hard wired into car. Fit and forget and it stores memory that can't be overwritten in the event of a high G loading (i.e. if there's an accident).
Wife got hit head on (on her side of the road) and the guy put his hands up for driving not he wrong side of the road. Police, ambulance were both in attendance and her back is still iffy 6 months later. My Discovery was written off.
Pictures were taken of my Discovery alloy being pressed into the wooden bank on the near side, where my wife had taken avoiding action and the guy made a statement admitting he was on the wrong side of the road to the Police. There were no white lines in the middle of the road and no CCTV. His insurers tried to claim 50/50!!!
Cameras fitted to all our cars now.
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There are many updates to that camer, wolfenstein, up to the 80806 now?what do you mean updated? I assume you got one... can the GPS logger be deactivated?...I'm GPS data shy
Mother of God! I apologise for the terrible spelling etc. in my post.
I don't have one of these cameras but kept an eye on them for a while, as I generally move towards getting one. I seem to remember that the GPS capability was in the mount rather than the camera itself? So you can therefore choose what capabilities you want in your system.
Assume it could always be used against you though too!
THIS is where they come into their own. There's SO many accidents whereby it [i]might[/i] have been either drivers fault, when looking at the incident after the event, without the benefit of footage. Pretty much any lane discipline incident, anywhere where markings on road aren't clear, any bump where parties dispute what the traffic lights said, etc, etc. In these circumstances, it's absolutely no skin of the nose of insurance companies to go 'knock for knock'. They share the cost, and BOTH get to sting their drivers for excesses, lost no claims and increased premiums. It's a no brainer for them. Footage just clears this all up. If you're a half decent human being, you could also volunteer your footage as a witness to anything too. I reckon in a few years they will be almost compulsory, by means of insurance premiums being silly without one.His insurers tried to claim 50/50!!!
My dash cam and rear cam set up arrived t'day (see the flying Ox's link on first page), looks good, simple to use and the picture quality is decent - I'll get it hardwired in to my van t'morn.
@somafunk.. im looking at that as well dude.. can you comment on pictures at low light...and can it be fitted with tape and not suction cup thingy?
im also interested in how unobtrusive it can be, and how easy to wire up.....
Shit!……in my pinot noir addled confusion i seem to have refreshed the page instead of posting the carefully thought out few paragraphs of review i had typed - bugger……….. 😉
Never mind, Yes it's worth it,
Yes the the picture quality is fine
The rear camera is decent enough for it's purpose, and it's handy as an aid to reversing my van.
Camera quality is surprisingly decent and very solid in use, the functions are easy to access.
I imagine if you have on ounce of mechanical aptitude you will be able to use/bodge the many aftermarket mounts to get it to fit as you wish.
review over, got wine to finish and tea to get.
Some useful info there Somafunk, cheers. Think I'm going to order one of those in the near future. Plan is to plug it into the power socket in the boot and run wire along the top of the doors inside to the rear view mirror. Do you reckon the wires supplied are long enough for this or do they assume you'll plug it into the front ciggy lighter?
thats what I've done with mine, so some manufacturers supply a long enough lead. Every dashcam I've had anything to do with has had a generous lead.plug it into the power socket in the boot and run wire along the top of the doors inside to the rear view mirror
The usb supply power lead/cig lighter fitting is approx 3.4m long, I'm going to cut it and connect to a switched live feed on my fusebox so it starts filming when my ignition is switched on.
Don't forget about the whole 12v down to 5v thing (I'm sure you haven't, but I wouldn't want you to fry your cam)going to cut it and connect to a switched live feed on my fusebox so it starts filming when my ignition is switched on.
I have a 5v feed out of a separate 12v - 5v feed into fuse box as I've previously wired in two usb sockets for my iPhone & stuff and a socket in the rear of the van for recharging stuff, I'll take my live feed from that as the supply is rated at 8000 mAh or thereabouts.
I think the majority of drivers should have dash cams..and volcano insurance.
Not for me, unless I was doing silly miles professionally or had a habit of close misses.
S.Manchester drivers? Don't drive in Trafford park, full of commuters in a rush to get out of Manchester!
Easy to tuck wires behind trim panels. Airbags WILL NOT go off unless you apply a voltage to the connectors. The risk is (in theory) that this could be a static charge from your clothes. But only if you unplug and handle it. There is zero risk tucking wires behind panels that may also have airbags somewhere nearby.
Whilst I do agree with you, I would caution that manufacturers often advise against this, presumably because they perceive a risk of wires getting tangled up in airbags as they deploy. My handsfree kit is mounted with the wires tucked into the A pillar, though. I suspect it's fine unless you go shoving a few yards of excess wire in there.
Just wondering, could you not take a feed from the courtesy lights? Would save removing A pillar trim in many cars.
Its ok fitting wires in the side pillars, just dont run the wire over the top of the air curtains or it will inhibit there operation when needed.
My cam turned up today and it seems ok (better than nothing). I don't think I will use the rear cam. I need to purchase one of those piggy back cables to hard wire it in.
There's a roundabout near my work that the cash for crash artists hang out at, this is why I've got one.
flying ox, you linked to [url= http://www.ebay.com/itm/171869526148?rmvSB=true ]this camera[/url] on page one as it has a reverse camera too. cant work out whether it will record both forward and reverse pics at same time, or you have to pick which one. sods law if you have an accident itd be the opposite end if so 🙂
v8ninety, also interested in [url= http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171979713004 ]your link[/url] ta.
im guessing the video quality would be similar, theyd both need an SD card buying too, but can anyone confirm how easy it is to get footage from it? dont want to be trying to take it down or getting to fiddly little slots to remove the card.....
do either (or any other similar priced jobbies for that matter) 'talk' to a smartphone? or even allow a phone to connect to it wired and d/load the footage?
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It records both images at the same time, the rear display is overlaid in the upper corner of the dashcam screen and you can toggle between front view only or front view + rear view in corner of screen or rear view + front view in corner of screen, to get the images from it you remove the card and slot it into a usb card reader thingy.
My dad has a Transcend dash cam (£90ish on amazon) and that can play images to his iPad with the Transcend app if needs be.
Cashcam? FFS why? Next we'll all be walking round town with GoPros on our heads, just incase someone else does something we don't like. Worlds gone mad!!!
It's not a great situation but I can absolutely see why people want video evidence when insurers are keen to treat every knock as 50:50 plus issues with uninsured drivers leaving the scene or folk doing crash-for-cash scams.
what is your solution agent007?
mine arrived as well today from ebay.. cheapo piece of SHTT 👿 going back straight tomorrow to the seller... I will fight tooth and nails to get this back to the seller, thats how bad mine is when I tested it earlier.. cannot even read plate number a meter away 😡 VGA, 720p 1080p .. all same quality and not a single pixel difference.
back to square one, I will have a look in currys tomorrow and get a proper one.. maybe that Transcend thingy
what is your solution agent007
How about we all learn to drive a bit better and be more considerate towards each other instead if trying to pin the blame onto someone else every time something goes wrong?
Personally I object to people filming me without my permission when I'm out and about. CCTV everywhere is bad enough but now every Tom, Dick and Harry has a dashcam, seemingly ready to 'dob in' or post the mistakes of others online for all to see. Get a life FFS !!!
@wolfenstein The same one as this? [url= http://www.ebay.com/itm/171869526148?rmvSB=true ]cam[/url]
I tested mine and I played it back on my Chromebook saves as .mp4 (handy) and it was fine. The way I see it is that it's better than nowt!
@agent007 unfortunately the standard of driving + the cash for crash gits are making them a necessity to keep your no claims!
@monkeychild .. its [url= http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390649643022?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT ]this[/url] one.horrible!
I got the one in my link and it's ok IMHO.
@agent007 unfortunately the standard of driving + the cash for crash gits are making them a necessity to keep your no claims!
Absolute bobbins - if you're properly observant and leave sufficient space between you and the car in-front then why would you ever fall victim to this sort of thing? Perhaps that Cashcam money would be better spent on some extra driver training which might stop you having an accident in the first place?
Yep extra training will help when the car goes from parked at the side of the road with the door open and left hand indicator on into the side of your passengers door, then claims you were overtaking them while they waited to pass the vehicle in front.
Their word against ours and the insurance went with them. A dash cam would have shown them to be lying out their arse.
I fitted a dash cam after that and a few near misses with people pulling out of junctions and round abouts at stupid times. People must be too busy surfing facebook or something to actually drive.
Okay great so it seems we're all more than happy to use dashcam footage to 'sue the arse' out of anyone else who makes a mistake, yet none of us is prepared to take extra training themselves to make the roads a safer place?
if you're properly observant and leave sufficient space between you and the car in-front then why would you ever fall victim to this sort of thing?
So, for example, you stop behind someone at the traffic lights. They reverse into you and then claim you hit them. Your word against theirs and default position of insurers is to pay out as your fault.
Okay great so it seems we're all more than happy to use dashcam footage to 'sue the arse' out of anyone else who makes a mistake,
I don't think anyone on this thread has suggested anything of the sort?
As dash cams become more popular the general standard of driving goes down, and more aggressive drivers become. I find that odd.
Is it just a perceived benefit as plod don't take the footage seriously?
Correlation != Causation
That clearly explains why people are [s]spending[/s] wasting money on these cameras, thanks.
I obviously think that they're a total waste of money.
Is it just a perceived benefit as plod don't take the footage seriously?
Haven't there been numerous cases of the polis investigating various incidents as a result of dashcam/helmet cam footage?
Oh and as GrahamS said, correlation =/= causation. More likely that plummeting driving standards (if they are plummeting) and people like eg trail-rat above feeling let down by insurance companies who can't be bothered to fight their corner as knock-for-knock is easier have caused the increased use of dashcams.
Or was your dashcams = plummeting standards a troll? 😕
Or was your dashcams = plummeting standards a troll?
Not a troll, I see some appalling driving on a day to day basis and yet the perpetators don't seem to be put off by the possibility of being caught on camera. In a few cases there might be some merit. But in general, no.
So you're maintaining that dashcams cause plummeting standards and that polis don't act on footage of (serious) incidents? Sorry...just trying to work out the point you were making.
So you're maintaining that dashcams cause plummeting standards
Now who's trolling? That's nowhere near what I said.
The question is why bother spending money on a dashcam if they serve no purpose?
Steady on fella - I'm only trying to work out what you meant when you said:
As dash cams become more popular the general standard of driving goes down, and more aggressive drivers become. I find that odd.
The question is why bother spending money on a dashcam if they serve no purpose?
Oh right, have we established that they serve no purpose?
Going to wade in again.
My dad was hit head on by an vw lt35 van in france last year.
He was riding his motorbike. Blind luck he is still here with us even if he is still suffering
Mr french man got out his van and said to the gendarmerie. English man was on the wrong side of the road- and they were prepared to accept this when they started questioning my dads mates accusing them of lying.
They then cracked out the helmet cam (wit gps speed data showing they were cruising at 30)footage from their bikes and showed a van careering across the road onto the wrong side of the road and wiping out my dad head on and sideswiping the following bike. - the police took the van driver off in cuffs
The french insurance company then started pushing back saying the same thing as mr van driver despite charges. Again - camera foootage was deployed.
How does extra training prevent that and he subsequent lying.
Basically too many self serving ****s in this world you gotta look out for number 1
That clearly explains why people are spending wasting money on these cameras, thanks.
Oooh snarky. Okay let me be clearer then. You said "As dash cams become more popular the general standard of driving goes down" - that's suggesting causation, but all we actually have is correlation.
It is just as likely that the causation works the other way and dashcam popularity is increasing in response to a perceived drop in driving standards. Or that there is no real link and they just happen to correlate.
why bother spending money on a dashcam if they serve no purpose?
What makes you think they serve no purpose? Several people on this thread have reported success stories.
Well I want one in my Van and I dont care what the Paper shop drivers think.
Several people on this thread have reported success stories.
We see a few instances where culpits have been caught, which is good. But in my experience, and I have plenty, I have never needed a dashcam and in answer to the OP I don't have one and will not as long as I have a choice in the matter.
If you feel that you have to try and convince me otherwise, knock yourself out. My advice is that you save your time.
Perhaps that Cashcam money would be better spent on some extra driver training which might stop you having an accident in the first place?
Does driver training give you ESP???? Not sure if obvious troll is obvious.
I always leave a 2 second gap when driving and plan ahead. This doesn't stop other twunts doing stupid overtaking manouvres, pulling out of junctions when it's not safe or my favourite today driving down the middle of an A road.
This shows their worth IMHO [url= http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/232185-firby-in-traffic-collision/ ]Ouch[/url]
If you feel that you have to try and convince me otherwise, knock yourself out. My advice is that you save your time.
Says the man who joined a thread about buying dashcams specifically to try and convince everyone that they are a waste of money. 😆
🙄Says the man who joined a thread about buying dashcams specifically to [s]try and convince everyone that they are a waste of money[/s] introduce their own opinion in the chat forum.
My apologies for going against the grain.
introduce their own opinion in the chat forum. My apologies for going against the grain.
Well if you feel that you have to try and convince me that they are pointless then knock yourself out. My advice is that you save your time. 😀
Well the OP question was, Do you have a Dashcam? So feel free to join in.
I felt I needed one tonight on a 25 mile drive home. 3 Lemmings tried to be my bonnet mascots.
Poor little darlings must have been tired after looking at there Monitors all day long 😯
Honestly it sounds like half the people on here can't drive! Other cars do unexpected and stupid things - you should expect and plan your driving around it, not rely on a Cashcam to simply apportion blame should the worst happen. With proper observation and anticipation then there's very little out there on the road that should be unexpected. If you find you're getting surprised all the time then you're either not concentrating, perhaps lack driving experience or might simply benefit from some more training.
It's the thin end of the wedge, where does it stop? Should I record myself (and those around me) all of the time doing everything just to prove in every situation that I'm not to blame for whatever happens around me?
There's too many cameras now monitoring what people do - it's getting ridiculous and the last thing we want is for those cameras to be in the hands of incompetents or those self serving militant types who are out to prove a point as seems to be the case with a lot of Cash/bike cam footage posted online.
Gigs are filmed on phones now for watching on a laptop later (rather than watching it live with your eyes in the first place). CCTV is everywhere, monitoring your every move. We had a drone hovering over our back garden around Xmas time. You can't go biking or snowboarding any more without someone recording the whole damn thing on a GoPro to bore their mates with their average riding at the bar afterwards. For god's sake give us a break!!!
^lol
Other cars do unexpected and stupid things
Plenty of examples of stuff that has happened to people where a collision is unavoidable. Hint: that's why "accidents" happen. They're not [i]all[/i] the result of both parties being at fault, sometimes it just takes one person to do something stupid. Added to that, all your ninja skills won't help when somebody is wilfully causing the "accident". I think you actually realise this in actuality and are just doing the usual driving-god-troll shtick you enjoy so much before straw-manning about CCTV and gigs...but hey...knock yourself out.
Interesting thread. Dashcams are for catching out liars and/or insurance co's who are trying it on. FWIW my car was scuffed in residents car park and drievr from next door denied it despite paint from my car on his - fortunately cctv showed the incident and his wife and her friend getting out if their car to look at mine 😯
I'm very tempted especially by sensor ones which could detect parking / vandalism incidents too, being very open one's with gps would need ability to switch that off.
[url= http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/11844317/Aston-Martin-keying-Silly-Hackney-father-admits-damaging-100k-car-outside-Tesco.html ]Here's a nice case of a guy who was caught on dashcam causing £8,000 of damage to an Aston Martin while it was parked outside Tesco. [/url]
Though obviously the owner could have avoided this by driving better. 🙄
personally ive got no problem with cameras all over the town/roads, watching my every move if they so wish. they can only help me if i need to prove something, theyll never catch me causing a fight in the street or burgling a house. and if mine/someone elses dashcam did prove it was me thats done somethings daft, id have no problem with accepting blame.
Holy tin foil hatsbat man. Jivehoneyjive has another login.
I wish i could post my dads video actually ( pending court case) id like to see how ninja skills would avoid the van.
personally ive got no problem with cameras all over the town/roads, watching my every move if they so wish.
Well you and I are different - I really think it's a big invasion of privacy being filmed all the time. Would you accept someone following you down the street, walking 10ft behind you filming you? No I doubt you would? Why should it be any different just because that camera is mounted in a car?
Would you accept someone following you down the street, walking 10ft behind you filming you?
no that may p1ss me off a bit but unobtrusive cameras that you dont even realise are there dont bother me at all.
Well you and I are different -
after reading through the posts on this thread i can confirm that 😀 altho if youre just playing devils advocate for the sake of it to wind people up then we maybe have something in common after all cos i like doing that too 🙂
Would you accept someone following you down the street, walking 10ft behind you filming you?no that may p1ss me off a bit but unobtrusive cameras that you dont even realise are there dont bother me at all.
Okay to change this, would you think it's acceptable for people walking 10ft behind you on the street to be sneakily and secretly filming you without your knowledge?
This is more of a question about what is socially acceptable behavior generally since I appreciate that if you're in this situation being filmed and the person following you has a semi-concealed camera then you might never realise.
would you think it's acceptable for people walking 10ft behind you on the street to be sneakily and secretly filming you [i]without your knowledge?[/i]
er...... but i wouldnt know about it so i couldnt have a problem with it. and i hope he enjoys his film of me walking around the streets innocently doing nothing wrong. if someone then came out of a pub and hit me in the face and when i reported him to the police said id started it, id be appreciative of said sneaky person tapping me on the shoulder tho and saying "here mate, use this, i got it all on film" 😉
er...... but i wouldnt know about it so i couldnt have a problem with it.
Not sure if you get what I said - it's not about you, more in general whether it's socially acceptable for people to follow other people around (whether they know them or not, whether they're going the same direction or not), sneakily filming them with a hidden camera?
id probably think the chap had strange tastes in porn but it wouldnt bother me
Irony intended in your username agent007? Do you tape over your webcam and camera on your phone just in case someone hacks it and looks at you in your pants?
id probably think the chap had strange tastes in porn but it wouldnt bother me
Again it's not about you and whether you personally do or don't like it - it's about whether this sort of thing should be acceptable social behaviour generally - following and filming strangers - oh and then using that footage for whatever reason, for self gratification, to stitch someone else up, to sue someone for damages, to protect yourself because you feel unsafe (how sad), to embarrass or bully someone online, or for whatever other reason.
people generally dont walk around wielding dangerous weapons though.
it does seem that folk drive around wielding their cars as dangerous weapons though.
it seems that in their tin box they feel invincible - and dont acknowledge what they did while in it .... see ronnie pickering and his subsequent interviews about what did and didnt happen.....
it's not about you, more in general whether it's socially acceptable for people to follow other people around (whether they know them or not, whether they're going the same direction or not), sneakily filming them with a hidden camera?
trying to answer this as honestly as possible rather than argue for the sake of it or score points or whatever. i suppose the answer as to whether its 'socially acceptable' would depend on the reasons.
if someone was going round filming everyone to masturbate to later in his bedroom, or for some type of criminal purpose then no, it wouldnt be 'socially acceptable'. if a 'guardian angel' was going round taking exactly the same footage for the purpose of keeping everyone safe and hopefully catching some criminal activity that could be reported then, id say that would be more 'socially acceptable', no problem, thanks for taking the time mate.
dashcams to me are more like the second case.
would you think it's acceptable for people walking 10ft behind you on the street to be sneakily and secretly filming you without your knowledge?
But that's a very different situation.
There are hundreds, if not thousands, of car crashes, bumps, scrapes and shunts every single day in the UK.
194,477 people a year are injured in the road, roughly 532 a day ([url= https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/reported-road-casualties-in-great-britain-main-results-2014 ]2014 figure[/url]).
And the financial cost is absolutely enormous.
If the stats for walking about were the same then I might well be thinking about a headcam!
(FWIW, I don't have a dashcam, yet, but I entirely understand why folk do)
if a 'guardian angel' was going round taking exactly the same footage for the purpose of keeping everyone safe and hopefully catching some criminal activity that could be reported then, id say that would be more 'socially acceptable', no problem, thanks for taking the time mate.dashcams to me are more like the second case.
Hmm, I hope you still see it that way when your 'driving mistake' is plastered over the internet for all to see.
We all make bad decisions occasionally, yes even me 😉 In the past that was dealt with by the authorities who are fallible like everyone else, but whom at least are fair and accountable.
These days it seems that peoples driving mistakes are simply posted online for maximum ridicule and vigilante style justice. That's really not a very nice thing to happen.
Oh and lets not even go down the route of Cashcams being used to record, glorify or brag to your mates later about your deliberate dangerous driving. Look on You-Tube, there's thousands of these videos! I doubt people would be driving like this without the opportunity to film and show off about it.
These days it seems that peoples driving mistakes are simply posted online for maximum ridicule and vigilante style justice. That's really not a very nice thing to happen.
this i agree with.
I to date have not even plugged my camera into the computer to look at any incidents....nothing ive deemed police worthy has happened.
I certainly wont be posting it on the internet then .....what ever happened to the need to keep evidence out of the public domain to get a decent conviction 😉
I doubt people would be driving like this without the opportunity to film and show off about it.
this i dont agree with .... when i was younger i knew several folk who drove like dicks just because they could and to wind others up. Dash cams/phone cams didnt exist in the mass markets back then either....they just did it for kicks. Its a bit like blaming strava for the straightlining of trails....which happened before strava as well.
I doubt people would be driving like this without the opportunity to film and show off about it.this i dont agree with .... when i was younger i knew several folk who drove like dicks just because they could and to wind others up. Dash cams/phone cams didnt exist in the mass markets back then either....they just did it for kicks.
Hmmm, well I've just come back from a snowboard trip. A guy in our group trip was filming us to make a video (with our consent) and you know what we all just pushed ourselves that little bit more than usual because we knew we were being filmed. Bigger jumps, faster speed, taking more risks, that sort of thing. Very tempting. When the camera was turned off people were far happier just to chill.
These days it seems that peoples driving mistakes are simply posted online for maximum ridicule and vigilante style justice. That's really not a very nice thing to happen.
as with trail rat, this i agree with.
as for the rest, i think thats just failings as human beings, maybe the technology shouldnt be blamed for that....
😯 i thought the point getting this dashcam is to catch something unexpected like UFO sightings in the horizon or some plane falling off the sky and sending it to 6 o'clock news for my 15 minutes of fame? Is it not? ..if so. Im out then 😕
I'd love it if they were not needed, but we do not live in a utopian world, and sadly there are a lot fewer police on the streets and roads, than there were even 10 years ago. A driver who was completely at fault at knocking me down by failing to stop at a junction, was let off as the police said that as there were no witnesses, it was her word against mine.
I've not gone for a dashcam as yet, mainly as I do very little town driving, but have just bought a cheap camera for my bike commute, after a particularly bad few weeks of almost daily incidents. For example, one driver was watching a video, plugged into headphones, whilst driving up a line of slow-moving traffic and just drifted across the lane and forced me off the road! I only noticed that she was watching a video on her phone as I ended up almost going through her side window!
I've only used the camera once so far (yesterday) and found that, as someone a few pages back mentioned, it has also had at least a modest effect of making me ensure that my riding is impeccable, as it could perhaps be questioned later. I've got no intention of using it for YouTube or naming/shaming, but hope that if something happens it can be dealt with properly.
Oh, and as for people skiing, snowboarding or riding beyond their limits just because a camera is present, I think that's pretty silly.
agent007
I presume (based on your comments about the utility of cameras) that you must think that theres a lot of pointless stuff in the world.
I can almost see the headlines from the day after you become earth president.
"Euro NCAP crash tests rendered pointless by devastating argument and slightly better driver training"
"Aircraft door escape slides turned into bouncy castles after quick meeting where things got explained clearly."
"It's so obvious now" say airbus designers, "All we had to do was design it not to crash. Even the space taken up by the black box, can be made useful again."
I think (hope?) you might be trolling a little bit, but I'd also love to see the world through your eyes .. just for a minute or two.
well not for me. My £40 dashcam saved me a £250 excess. That's clearly and unequivocally NOT a waste of money. And whilst I am NOT a driving God, I am trained and experienced to a much higher level than the general public, and I didn't manage to predict that the dickhead taxi driver was about to change lanes into the side of my car. As for invasions of privacy; under UK law, you do not have a 'reasonable expectation of privacy' whilst in a public place, as much as you may wish you did. Sorry.dashcams...waste of money
Regarding driving differently because it's being filmed; I forget mines there, TBH. I only remembered with the taxi incident about 15 minutes later, when I'd calmed down. I've never bothered looking at footage before or since, either. Having one is just a little extra insurance, as far as I'm concerned.
I just had a quick look to see who you've quoted there, v8ninety, and I can't find it, but anyhow in answer to your, personal and, unequivocal experience. I have not had to make an insurance claim for something like 25 years or 750,000 miles. So, I can say that for me a dashcam IS an unequivocal waste of money. Funny that. 😀
Obviously I'll total the car tomorrow within 1 mile of home and have no witnesses. 😛
“People with opinions just go around bothering each other.”
Buddha
I just had a quick look to see who you've quoted there, v8ninety, and I can't find it, but anyhow in answer to your, personal and, unequivocal experience. I have not had to make an insurance claim for something like 25 years or 750,000 miles. So, I can say that for me a dashcam IS an unequivocal waste of money. Funny that.
Ain't you the lucky one! A great may people, through no fault of their own, aren't so lucky, and as in the example of v8ninety above, the investment of a really quite small amount of money has saved him around four times as much.
Most [i]reasonable[/i] people would not consider that to be a waste of money.
Still, as a wise man once said, opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one. 😉
I'm glad that you can accept differing opinions so graciously.