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My wife and I are having both our immediate families over for xmas day - all good done it the last 5 years and all works quite well. We've been asked to invite one of my Wife's aunties as she will be otherwise alone. She's lovey and we all get on well so no problem delighted to have her over. As she lives in a different city so will be staying with my in-laws - again great.

Only my inlaws on Boxing Day host a doo for extended family - all the aunties, uncles cousins etc. For some unknown reason, the aunty who is with us on xmas day (and again we were explicitly told to invite her) has NOT been invited to her Boxing Day bash - The only person on that entire side of the family not invited. To compound this my inlaws have told her some elaborate, clearly bullshit excuse as to why she needs to leave early doors on boxing day morning so they can get the house ready for the party.

We've been requested to back up their excuse and if asked we're to lie to the woman's face.

So my & I wife are now in a position to either lie to a lovely guests' face at my dinner table (which is clearly a blatant lie) or to drop the bombshell fact that we're all having a jolly knees up the following day but she's clearly not good enough to be invited.

I thought this year was going too bloody smoothly ffs!

 
Posted : 05/12/2021 1:39 pm
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**** that.

Tell them to get her invited or she can come on Christmas and they can't.

 
Posted : 05/12/2021 1:42 pm
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Take lovely aunty out for lunch on Boxing Day and give the party a swerve.

 
Posted : 05/12/2021 1:44 pm
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NO way do you lie to protect others.  Tell whoever organized the party to tell her she is not invited to that you will not.  Let them sort it out.  As above dis-invite them if they will not play ball

 
Posted : 05/12/2021 1:45 pm
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Tell the Aunt about the party, only have her Christmas and Boxing Day. She’ll have her will changed before the new year.

 
Posted : 05/12/2021 1:48 pm
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the "some unknown reason" would need both explaining to me and gaining my support if i were to keep my mouth shut
it'd have to be something really big for me to lie for someone else.

 
Posted : 05/12/2021 1:50 pm
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Cancel your Christmas day bash. If anyone asks why, just tell them life is too short for Christmas family bollox.

 
Posted : 05/12/2021 1:54 pm
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Cancel your Christmas day bash. If anyone asks why, just tell them life is too short for [s]Christmas[/s] family bollox.

Very, very much this.

 
Posted : 05/12/2021 1:59 pm
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Take lovely aunty out for lunch on Boxing Day and give the party a swerve

This, definitely this.

 
Posted : 05/12/2021 2:08 pm
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Can you not just have the auntie stay with you and sack off the Boxing Day party. Sounds like my idea of hell anyway tbh.

 
Posted : 05/12/2021 2:08 pm
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Take lovely aunty out for lunch on Boxing Day and give the party a swerve.

100% this.

 
Posted : 05/12/2021 2:14 pm
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Cancel your Christmas day bash. If anyone asks why, just tell them life is too short for Christmas family bollox.

Except for auntie, she can come over for Christmas

 
Posted : 05/12/2021 2:15 pm
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Don't start me.

In-laws of the in-laws seem to be making the decisions about everyones Christmas at the moment, all so that they get the Christmas that have decided on, and everyone else has to fall in line/wait on thier decision.

 
Posted : 05/12/2021 2:43 pm
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Arrange a duel in the back garden for those that don’t get on - always used to work back in the day…

 
Posted : 05/12/2021 2:48 pm
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After a couple of years where SIL+BIL completely ruined festivities by bringing up Brexit and being generally obnoxious, we moved 500 miles north, problem solved!

 
Posted : 05/12/2021 3:56 pm
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Take lovely aunty out for lunch on Boxing Day and give the party a swerve.

This has class and may still result in

She’ll have her will changed before the new year.

 
Posted : 05/12/2021 3:57 pm
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We always have quiet Christmases, generally with friends rather than family. But I love the annual STW family ructions thread. Not sure if the dog-weeing-in-garden-dirty-look-from-MiL-so-we-got-straight-back-into-car-and-left-before-a-word-was-even-spoken incident has ever been bettered. 😀

 
Posted : 05/12/2021 5:05 pm
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I wouldn't lie. Simple as that. Let them who are being dishonest deal with their own mess, if you conspire with them you're part of the problem and will greatly offend wife's lovely auntie when she finds out (as she surely will).

 
Posted : 05/12/2021 5:22 pm
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Get the starters out of the way and until everyone has had a few glasses and then "so aunty ...why aren't you coming to the massive big rave up at the in laws everyone else is tomorrow, we'd love to see you there?"

Call taxi's, pour large VSOP and enjoy 5+ yrs of bullshit free Christmases.

Not really as above do something nice for your aunty or tell the fibbers to **** off

 
Posted : 05/12/2021 5:32 pm
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Ask for an explanation … if there isn’t a good one (she once slept with the husband of someone else in the family, or something else that would make the day hell for someone else) then make your own Boxing Day plans.

 
Posted : 05/12/2021 5:43 pm
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Which one has the better inheritance chances?

 
Posted : 05/12/2021 5:45 pm
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This is why when offered a shift I jump at the chance!

 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:15 pm
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Had a meal like this once many years ago. It was like The Last Supper sitting knowing that one of the people at the table was being lied to. A week later when the person asked me if I'd known about it, I had a choice of coming clean or compounding the lie. I just told the truth. It wasn't my house or my direct family and I had no desire to be involved.

 
Posted : 05/12/2021 8:05 pm
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Repeat after me

we will not lie for you

 
Posted : 05/12/2021 8:20 pm
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I called out my medic student neice yesterday at the family Christmas pub meal. We usually meet half way between our respective homes for a nice time. I can thoroughly recommend that you visit the Methuen Arms in Corsham. It's between Bath and Chippenham.

Anyway, she's 19 now, an adult. She was telling us of Covid patients she had worked with and then blew her runny nose onto a bit of tissue. Then put the obviously moist tissue in the middle of the table. I asked her to put it away properly and she blanked me. I asked louder, essentially telling and reminding her why she was in the wrong. Table went quiet. Pub went quiet. She gave the yukky tissue to her mum, who took it unquestionally and put it in an empty wine glass. Neither of them seemed even slightly aware that they were doing the wrong thing. Niece's response was that it's sorted, with no apparent realisation that there was a (hopefully minimal ) chance of infection transmission. She's a trainee theatre assistant FFS!

Stony silence ensued.

You can choose your friends but you can't choose your family.

 
Posted : 05/12/2021 8:25 pm
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Emigrate.
Anything else is posturing.
Worked for me.

 
Posted : 06/12/2021 7:24 am
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Weird situation. They've expressly asked you to invite her to your gathering and expressly not invited her to yours?

Why?

You can choose your friends but you can’t choose your family.

Sure you can. Tell them to **** off. As presented by the OP I'd be swerving the inlaws' party and spending the evening with lovely auntie. Duplicitous cockbags.

 
Posted : 06/12/2021 7:32 am
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What he said ^

 
Posted : 06/12/2021 8:33 am
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OP - please update us how this turns out.

 
Posted : 06/12/2021 8:38 am
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Cheers all - good to have a temp check in that I'm not off in thinking its an unreasonable situation.

Yesterday my wife and her brother hove both, independently, told their parents they are bang out of order and to rectify it, but they are digging their heels in.

I've made it quite clear I'm not prepared to lie to cover for them.

I think this makes it odds on in favour for fireworks at Christmas.

I'll make sure I've got a charged hip flask and will head out for a long dog walk with my parents if it all kicks off.

 
Posted : 06/12/2021 9:19 am
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Can't wait for the Festive liveblog. 🙂

 
Posted : 06/12/2021 9:44 am
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At least your wife's on side!

Sounds bizarre from the inlaws though. Why ask her to stay over, and you to sort her xmas day over, only to kick her out before boxing day?

 
Posted : 06/12/2021 10:01 am
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Would your wife accept disinviting your inlaws?

 
Posted : 06/12/2021 10:03 am
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Would your wife accept disinviting your inlaws?

HaHahaHaHahaHaHahaHaHahaHaHahaHaHaha - no. Could you imagine?

My wife's family have 5? set events over the festive period. These run like clockwork and NEVER change (Us taking over xmas day was 'A Thing').

The first year we were together, my wife missed one of these events so we could spend a day with my family. Her mum never spoke to her for about 8 weeks as a result.

 
Posted : 06/12/2021 10:09 am
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I am so glad I have worked most christmasses my adult life!  Its set the precedent that I do not join my family on xmas day.  works for me

 
Posted : 06/12/2021 10:12 am
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Ok - I have the answer - cocaine and whiskey - turn yourself into such an obnoxious arse that no one will ever want to come to your house again.  Anesthetise your wife with a few vallium slipped into her morning coffee so she does not notice

Or - move house and do not tell anyone!

Or - catch something dreadful so yo have an excuse not to particiapate

 
Posted : 06/12/2021 10:15 am
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Ok – I have the answer – cocaine and whiskey – turn yourself into such an obnoxious arse that no one will ever want to come to your house again. Anesthetise your wife with a few vallium slipped into her morning coffee so she does not notice

I like your thinking! Sadly my parents will be there so I will behave. Also red wine gives me bad enough hangovers these days, I can't imagine a wine & whisky & cocaine hangover.

I do think the fall out from this year, which will of course be my fault entirely 🙄 shall relieve me of my invitation to subsequent family events.

So that could count as a win

 
Posted : 06/12/2021 10:23 am
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Good on OP's wife and brother. I suspect there is some silly reason. MIL doesn't particularly like her sister much, and used to be quite rude to her, when her sister used to visit MIL weekly as she couldn't get out.

Relatively simple here this year. All my side are together for the first time in years at my folks house - we've usually been at MIL's as it's her "Last Christmas" - it's been like that for over 10 years and she's still here but in a Nursing home. Christmas morning is me and MrsF going to see MIL in the home - just 30 minutes and the first time I've seen her since the start of the pandemic given restrictions. Then after lunch to my parents. All us siblings are doing the cooking/washing up - mum and dad just hosting as they have the space.

Boxing day, just at home, but inviting SIL as she is on her own.

 
Posted : 06/12/2021 11:29 am
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The first year we were together, my wife missed one of these events so we could spend a day with my family. Her mum never spoke to her for about 8 weeks as a result.

All the more reason to tell them to **** off. That's emotional blackmail that most people grow out of when they clear puberty. Also, control freaks much?

And again - why are they ostracising Auntie?

 
Posted : 06/12/2021 11:48 am
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Your inlaws sound like absolute c*nts tbh.

Edit - They must have given a reason surely? The first question i'd ask is, why...

 
Posted : 06/12/2021 11:49 am
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Control freaks - sounds like it. MIL still tries to control her 3 daughters from the Nursing home !

 
Posted : 06/12/2021 12:27 pm
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Come on OP, you can't leave us hanging like this.

Get sleuthing and bring us the goss. If only for the sake of Cougar's blood pressure.

 
Posted : 06/12/2021 12:30 pm
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> scratch that <

 
Posted : 06/12/2021 12:41 pm
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lol love it.

Dont lie, just say your going and its not your doo so you cant invite auntie. If she wants to go ask the people that are sorting it out. Done this meany times.

 
Posted : 06/12/2021 12:50 pm
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Or – catch something dreadful so yo have an excuse not to particiapate

Ah, a Covid benefit at last! You don't even actually need to be positive, just put some Lucozade on a LFT! 😁

 
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Errr, I hate to break it to you, but they are not urine tests. The swab is supposed to go up your nose, not up your... errrr....

 
Posted : 06/12/2021 1:00 pm
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Not that kind of Lucozade willard! The fizzy kind. (er, fizzy drink kind, MY Lucozade will probably have a head on it anytime between boxing day and new year) if you substitute your snot sample for it, you get a +ve test. Don't you remember school kids doing it to get them and their class a day or two off? 🤣

 
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Cougar’s blood pressure.

A great name for a >10% beer.

 
Posted : 06/12/2021 1:21 pm
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has NOT been invited to her Boxing Day bash – The only person on that entire side of the family not invited

Has it simply been assumed she has an invite without her prescence being formally requested? lol, it's a possibility.

Either way don't touch the situation with a barge pole.. or casually mention the boxing day do to said person and guage the reaction.

You won't be in the wrong if there's some weird reason she's uninvited, that you've not been made aware of.

 
Posted : 06/12/2021 6:48 pm
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Just let sweet ol' auntie know over dinner, the resulting arguments will beat watching old Liz on the telly box and will be fondly laughed over every Christmas for years to come.

We have our own issues balancing 3 families and 3 days of Christmas dinner

 
Posted : 06/12/2021 7:07 pm
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I can thoroughly recommend that you visit the Methuen Arms in Corsham. It’s between Bath and Chippenham.

I know it well, I’ve eaten and had drinks there, but I prefer the Flemish Weaver at the other end of the High Street, the old bit that’s featured in a variety of telly shows.

 
Posted : 06/12/2021 9:41 pm
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Wait, I know.

Play it cool, then arrive at theirs having kindly given auntie a lift also.

 
Posted : 06/12/2021 10:42 pm
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Emigrate.
Anything else is posturing.
Worked for me.

+1
Sadly, my wife's family are here. Hopefully we can **** off further away in the coming years!

 
Posted : 06/12/2021 10:59 pm
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You lot are all presuming that Auntie is a clean, polite and friendly older lady who'd offer you a werthers from her bag. The truth might be she's a disgusting old bag who talks endlessly about innane crap, as elder ladies are want to do. Bet she talks at you when you're eating, I hate that.
😋😆🙈

 
Posted : 06/12/2021 11:47 pm
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She’s lovey and we all get on well so no problem delighted to have her over.

Doesn't seem so! Why would the in laws let her stay over one night, then not invite her to the party.

Does it turn into a singers do once all the family have left, and she's not the type?

 
Posted : 07/12/2021 7:26 am
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It sounds like the sort of vile bullying I wouldn't tolerate in my ten year old's social circle.

best of luck OP.

 
Posted : 07/12/2021 7:32 am
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My wife’s family have 5? set events over the festive period. These run like clockwork and NEVER change (Us taking over xmas day was ‘A Thing’).

The first year we were together, my wife missed one of these events so we could spend a day with my family. Her mum never spoke to her for about 8 weeks as a result.

It’s weird these family ‘Things’…

 
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Does it turn into a singers do once all the family have left, and she’s not the type?

TBH the FIL loves a bit of karaoke, can’t stand it myself 🙂

 
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Maybe she's off-key.

 
Posted : 07/12/2021 7:58 am
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Damn you, stupid thumbs!

 
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My family are of the sort that "Share a surname, but little else" We all live as far apart as we can (far enough away that a day visit is inconvenient) We all do our own thing and all seem to have no intention of ever spending any time with each other at Xmas. My brother for instance lives in the North east, he's coming down to me in Manchester the week before, but is leaving to go back on Xmas Eve...He lives alone. It seems to work well enough though.  My partner is Jewish, and Canadian, so that's that covered.

My Xmas's are pretty relaxed it has to be said.

 
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" . . .  who talks endlessly about innane crap, as elder ladies are want to do."
Quick, sign her up to STW - she'll fit in well here!

 
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Talking endlessly about inane crap is what families do Jekkyl.

 
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Talking endlessly about inane crap is what families do Jekkyl.

Not mine - mine play games very competitively!  This year its a quiz league - each member will do a 20 - 30 question quiz and at the end of the week a winner will be declared!  Probably monopoly as well

the whole family ( mum, dad, sis , brother in law nephews and their partners) have hired a house for a week over christmas.  Fortunately having established the precedent of not joining them because I have been working over the decades I can avoid this and because of my circumstances this year no one is pressing me to join them.  Now love my family dearly but the idea of a whole week of over eating, over drinking ( by my standards) and playing games competitively is pure hell.

I will join them on boxing day for 36 hours  I may well take a tent and sleeping bag so I can escape into the garden!

 
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As suggested OP, I’d mention the party to the aunt then stand well back and observe the fall out. You’ve got some way to go to beat the STW record of turning up on the drive before having enough and turning round. So perhaps your partner can have an argument on the phone on the way to the Boxing Day party, so you don’t even reach the destination?

 
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We see my folks/my in-laws alternate years Christmas day/Boxing day.

My family are pretty easy - my Brother died 8 years ago so my Mum and Dad are my only close family - they live 15 mins drive away and are not too demanding - This year They'll come to ours Christmas day for Lunch then we'll pack them off home as we go to a friends on Christmas day night.

The In-laws are a total nightmare - my wife has 2 sisters - both single Mums, early 40s who are basically adult Children - they cannot look after their own feral Children properly let alone themselves.
As neither are capable of cooking a roast dinner or a boxing day buffet they both expect their elderly parents to cater for them on one day, we end up with them all round here every year for the other day.
Which also annoys me as they'll turn up with a bottle of £3 Co-op wine, and proceed to eat/drink all of our posh food/booze.
And don't get me started on their feral kids - poor behaviour, no manners, etc.

...and breathe.

 
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Which also annoys me as they’ll turn up with a bottle of £3 Co-op wine, and proceed to eat/drink all of our posh food/booze.

Don’t buy posh food for their meal and hide your nice booze then. If they are happy buying a £3 bottle then I assume they will be ok drinking something similar.

 
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My wife’s family have 5? set events over the festive period. These run like clockwork and NEVER change (Us taking over xmas day was ‘A Thing’).

The first year we were together, my wife missed one of these events so we could spend a day with my family. Her mum never spoke to her for about 8 weeks as a result.

Can I add to the WTF??? about that one?

 
Posted : 07/12/2021 9:37 am
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KFC Bargain Bucket and a 2ltr bottle of FF Coke . Be right up their strasse. Turn the heating down or off , just say its broken.

 
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For the last 4 years I've been bidding for Christmas trips and then telling my family that I've been forced to work on Christmas Day. No fights, arguments, cooking, or traffic, and everyone at work is cheerful.

Only wish I'd thought of doing it earlier.

 
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I bet if you called Lovely Auntie and told her there was a party that she wasn't allowed to be at she'd say "Yes of course I know about it. Tony will be there, with his wife..." and chuckle.

 
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You can get wine for £3 in the co-op ? Don't believe you !

Gin has been banned after how smashed my 2 BIL's got on it a couple of years ago. Started on it after wine and beers - absolute mess they both worse. I wasn't even there to take the pish !

We're all together this year. Thinking of taking "Exploding Kittens" and "Throw Throw Burrito" for some competitive fun.

 
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You can get wine for £3 in the co-op ?

Probably a 125ml tin, knowing Co-Op prices.

 
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