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The interviewer was wearing shorts and a Star Wars t-shirt.
I wear pretty much the same at our place when interviewing and wouldn't care if they wore a suit or not.
Last role I interviewed for was in lockdown so all over Teams. We chose the one chap who never switched his webcam on in any of the videos. When we finally met, I was expecting a facial scar or something, but no, very normal looking. He got the job as he was the best fit / technical knowledge to the role.
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Well made, properly fitted suits in a range of fabrics are the epitome of style; light colours in lightweight fabrics for warm weather, darker colours inc stripes or checks for cooler weather.
Meanwhile, whilst you're togged up like Professor Elemental because "style" the rest of us are in shorts and laughing our tits off at you.
Raggy shorts and band t-shirts are for working in
gardentechnology.
I think Frank is Frank the tailor and that’s why he’s taking like a paragraph from GQ.
No need for GQ.
Cougar, you really are thin skinned aren't you.
Middle aged blokes wandering around in raggy shorts and band t-shirts are providing all the laughs.
No doubt you'll be back soon with another attempted sneer.
Carry on as I can't be arsed with someone who always wants the last word.
Middle aged blokes wandering around in raggy shorts and band t-shirts are providing all the
laughsmicroservices
FTFY (again) 😛
This has been fun to read but the simple answer is ask the recruiter what the dress code is.
I work in Advisory for a tier one bank and if you turned up in a suit you would be remembered as ‘the suit guy’. The world has moved on but love the perceived stereotypes being displayed.
Cougar, you really are thin skinned aren’t you.
Quite the opposite. You're the one sneering, I couldn't care less. I stopped worrying what other people thought about what I was wearing somewhere around the time I had the wrong brand of trainers in high school.
Frank. Remember who cougar is. I suspect a type 2
"Van was a type-two sysadmin, over six feet tall, long pony-tail, bobbing Adam’s apple. Over his toast-rack chest, his tee said CHOOSE YOUR WEAPON and featured a row of polyhedral RPG dice.
Felix was a type-one admin, with an extra seventy or eighty pounds all around the middle, and a neat but full beard that he wore over his extra chins. His tee said HELLO CTHULHU and featured a cute, mouthless, Hello-Kitty-style Cthulhu. "
From when sysadmins ruled the earth by Cory Docterow
Bullshit.
I'm only 5'10".
TBH, wearing anything that looks like you're putting the effort in, whether it's an interview or just going out, says something about you.
Sneering and blabbing on about establishment & how it's cool to wear a t-shirt or whatever - that also says something about you .. and whilst neither is right, just accept they both have consequences 😊
Never get the hatred of short sleeve shirts. It’s a pain finding them and I once had to get some altered at one of the high street short shops to get ones I liked. The slightly snooty sales assistant clearly thought I was mad. The answer of long sleeved shirts don’t work too well when you have to shove your hand up a cows arse to PD it mate cleared that up however.
Doctors etc are also bare below the elbow too.
Anyway. Wear what make you feel comfortable both physically and psychologically and smash the interview
Weird how even I’m these globally warmed days i
But if you ignore the hysteria you'll actually realise that it's not really any hotter than any other randomly hot summer day we've had in the last century 🤷
Never get the hatred of short sleeve shirts. [etc]
Sartorial elegance aside, I really can't wear long sleeves for any length of time.
*deep breath* I'm probably going to regret sharing this because it's a source of lifelong paranoia for me but, well, I suppose it pales into insignificance compared to Poopscoop's penis-related candour. I have a condition called hyperhidrosis, or in layman's terms "sweaty hands." As a kid it was not just embarrassing, it was debilitating. Saying the Lord's Prayer in assembly, by the time I'd finished putting my hands together it'd be (no word of exaggeration) dripping off my elbows. Doing classwork I used to use my school tie as a hand-rest to protect my books or, into college, carry a bar towel. I was really good at Technical Drawing but was consistently marked down because the papers I turned in were yellow and disfigured like old damp books. Then that's before you get into practical challenges like catching a ball, throwing a dart, rock-climbing, opening jars, anything that requires a secure grip. That's before you get into the mental damage like "how am I ever going to get a girlfriend, who on earth is going to want to hold my hand?"
Fast-forward to today and it's mostly under control. Back in the day it was severe enough that my parents took me to the doctor who said "he'll grow out of it" and as it turned out he was right, what he neglected to add was "... in about 40 years' time." Useless prick.
But, it's not gone away completely, I have triggers. Excessive caffeine sets it off big time; stress; intense concentration; worrying about it is self-fulfilling in itself, I guess in much the same way as impotence (me writing this right now has set it off); and of course the reason why we all actually sweat, heat. So wrapping up my forearms or wearing tight clothing around my wrists is Not Good.
The first thing I want to do with a long-sleeved shirt or a jumper is roll up the sleeves. I can't be doing with it either psychologically or physically. Put me in a suit for an interview, it'd be like shaking hands with Spongebob. That's not really a great first impression, is it.
The artist
Oh dear. A climate change denier.
Go read some climate science. Climate change is real and happening
Shows how thoroughly you've all been brainwashed doesn't it.
Deliberately making yourself uncomfortable to show that you have respect for the company (doesn't respect have to be earned?). Then spending even more on having custom made clothes just to regain some small vestiges of comfort...
Then following the advertisers dream of selling you overpriced shirt, tie, suit, brogues, just to be stylish?
Weird.
I wore a shirt and jeans for an interview in 2000 (for which i got the job) then since then it's been t-sirts (some vulgar, some not) and either jeans or walking trousers. That's been senior tech roles, customer facing roles, supplier facing roles, tech management, senior architectural roles.
Worst was the job dealing with academics. They're all wearing expensive suits that don't fit, and haven't been cleaned since the last Thatcher government.
I am interviewing a couple of people on Wednesday. I wonder if they are from this forum?
I would expect smart trousers, not jeans, and a clean and pressed shit, not some wrinkled floral effort, but not necessarily full suit and tie given the current weather. If I was turning up to an interview and spotted a dramatic difference in dress code from what i was wearing I might make a comment about the weather, social expectations etc making it hard to know exactly what to wear but how nice it is that now people are intelligent enough to look beyond the dress code. At least that way, if they do want to comment on your dress code they have to first accept your premise that they are not intelligent.
@kimbers. Working in the same industry as you (although commercial for many years not research but still with plenty of research interactions) I’d say suit and tie unfortunately. You may be able to wear shorts and t-shirts for the rest of your career but it’s suit and tie for managerial interviews in these sorts of places. Just give yourself plenty of time before the interviews so you aren’t a fast walking sweaty mess (aircon cafe round the corner beforehand?) and good luck!
If you wait in a nice airconditioned place before the interview, leave it a few minutes to acclimatise before going to the interview otherwise you risk turning up cool looking and then your body starts sweating profusely because of the sudden temperature change.
Well wore the suit
(Cycled over with it in a suit bag, got changed in the disabled loo)
Sweated lots, even tho office was nicely airconned
Helped that I knew one of the interviews quite well, I think
Got offered the job about an hour after
Just waiting to see what happens on wednesday now.
Just waiting to see what happens on wednesday now.
They'll tell you that as you've turned up in a suit, you'll be expected to wear one for the rest of your working days...
Last two jobs I had an interview for and got offered the job I was wearing cycling kit. They were bike industry jobs though. For pathology I wore a polo shirt and black jeans, got that job too
So I'd say it 100% depends on the job, I'd wear what you think you'd be wearing in the job role.... unless it's a high Viz suit wearing job obviously
By being employed on merit rather than how expensive your clothing is?
has nothing to do with expense. Casual shirt (untucked) and formal suit don't go together well, plus, in a short sleeved shirt, you'll look like a Mormon missionary or photocopier salesman, and no-one wants that.
Plus it is odd, how all the jeans/tee shirt guys are claiming that they abhor the uniformness and conformity of a suit, whilst at the same time wearing literally "the" apotheosis of the 21st male uniform themselves.
Plus it is odd, how all the jeans/tee shirt guys are claiming that they abhor the uniformness and conformity of a suit, whilst at the same time wearing literally “the” apotheosis of the 21st male uniform themselves.
Plus .. no reason why a suit has to be uncomfortable, if you actually bother to get the right size.
You either have style or you dont
TJ - have I got you mixed up with someone else, or are/were you a nurse? - a profession that lives in Crocs in my experience.
I had an interview in London on a boiling hot summer day about 4 years ago. Flew down from Glasgow in full suit and tie.
Arrived in the office for the interview. The interviewer met me at reception, looked me up and down and said "Take the jacket and tie off, we're going for lunch"
Plus .. no reason why a suit has to be uncomfortable, if you actually bother to get the right size.
In my "i must wear a suit" days, i never, ever, ever found a suit or formal shirt that fitted properly. Or comfortably.
They're built for golfists, not cyclists.
Plus it is odd, how all the jeans/tee shirt guys are claiming that they abhor the uniformness and conformity of a suit, whilst at the same time wearing literally “the” apotheosis of the 21st male uniform themselves.
I wear what makes me happy. Couldn't give a damn what anyone else is wearing. I'm likely a walking (sitting) fashion disaster but I'm 20+ years beyond giving a **** about that.
Plus .. no reason why a suit has to be uncomfortable, if you actually bother to get the right size.
It's thirty degrees outside and you've got a coat on.
(doesn’t respect have to be earned?)
Moreover, shouldn't respect be a two-way process?
I tire of job adverts and interviews being all about them with little thought for the candidate.
More or less uniformly miserable experiences IMHO.
Fresh out of University I had an interview with this firm in Chesire. In fact, I had two interviews with them. Unfortunately, they rejected me and wouldn't even pay for my train fare when I asked them to citing a policy about only paying travel costs for those in full-time education. Absolute ****ers!
Before lock down we stayed at claridges. It was similar weather to this . I was in Chino shorts and a long sleeved collared shirt.
On arrival we went to the bar for a drink. Snotty lady came over and kicked me out.
I said ok ,I'll go upstairs and get changed.
When I came back down with my offending legs covered I ordered our drinks and when she took our room number and found out it was rather grand, that slimey bitch couldn't bring me enough plates of nibbles.
FFS if I'm (well ,someone else,thank you very much) spending a couple of grand to sleep for one night I do expect to be comfortable while I'm doing it.
Later in the restaurant in the evening , suited and booted we were sat next to a table of people who wore their anoraks and beanie hats for the whole evening. One of their party had his laptop on the table and was eating his dinner around it.
All more acceptable than me wearing shorts at lunch in a bar.
I can't see how discriminating against my legs due to my gender can be legal.
DrJ
No thats me. Black lace up shoes well polished at work.
The day they changed the uniform to drawstring elastic waisted trousers with no fly i nearly had a canary.🙄🤣
Moreover, shouldn’t respect be a two-way process?
Sure, but if a worker comes to the work place dressed as a child, we're going to have a different relationship than to all the adults
Seeking clothing advice on a forum where folk get all anti about short sleeve shirts, but the only thing said after the mention of a Star Wars t-shirt is 'thats what I wear'
Yeah, def where I'd go, every time. 🤣
I would expect smart trousers, not jeans, and a clean and pressed shit
Blimey @WorldClassAccident, that's some pretty exacting standards you have.
Got offered the job about an hour after
Yeah! Good work Kimbers 🙂
I always made sure I wore the suit a good hour before the interview, just to get used to it. Didn't get sweaty in interviews at all. And I am a sweaty sod
Congrats Kimbers
Nice one Kimbers.
Sure, but if a worker comes to the work place dressed as a child, we’re going to have a different relationship than to all the adults
Good.
I like being underestimated, if someone's acting on prejudices it's much easier to outsmart them.
Congrats Kimbers. Now was it you or the suit that swung it? 😉
well done Kimbers - where?
Update
Wore the suit for the second one too
Just cycled over in my shorts & t-shirt with suit carrier strapped on back , got changed in the disabled loos
Offered this job too, and they even upped the salary
So I'm definitely in the pro suit camp
Now it's my brother in law's wedding in 2 weeks, what is the hivemind thoughts on that.....
@theotherjohnv this is the Crick Institute (which was described at my interview as the DeathStar by John Lewis)
Two offers? Awesome work!
Can you now get them to do a leadership race-style run off for who gets your skills, or is one more obviously where you want to work?
Congrats Kimbers, looks like it’s going well for you.
I now have a similar problem - I’m representing the company at a conference on Tuesday in London. It’s currently predicted to be 38 degrees…. 🥵
Two offers?
Get both parties to decide with...
A Dance off a la umbrella academy
Kryton
Pale linen suit. Black t shirt. Panama hat. Loafers. You know it makes sense🙄🤣
Are you getting the train in Kryton? I could see there beingplenty of issues!
Woo who! Go kimbers! Well done!
Personally I'd suit up for the wedding too, unless groom told me not to.
Congratulations kimbers!
Suit for the wedding - you know it makes sense!
Some right judgemental folk in here, there's dressed smart and then there's dressed stupid.
Khaki* chinos, so beloved of Silicon Valley and the Alt-right…
*pronounced to rhyme with tacky, the idiots.
I'm not Indian so I don't necessarily pronounce things the same. See also chorizo and paella for Spanish, Munchen and Koln in German etc.
Suit for the wedding – you know it makes sense!
I'm wedding suit shopping tomorrow, apparently. Hooray, it's only tropical out there and I'm spending £100s for a day that I don't even want to go to. (No, it's not my own wedding! 😀 )
But, no, you're wrong, a suit doesn't make sense because the bride is apparently wearing Converse, and my wife - a bridesmaid - has been told not to wear heels. So, if I wear a formal suit and everyone else is wearing Star Wars T-shirts, I'll look like an old, sweaty businessman at a 70s cocktail party. I'm going to grow a huge moustache and wear just a waistcoat and boardshorts. Maybe a mohawk as well..
That sounds very much like a non-suited wedding. Or at least not a stiff business suit.
Pale linen suit. Black t shirt. Panama hat. Loafers. You know it makes sense🙄🤣
Ah Clarece… tft tft tft tft tft 🥓🫘🥩🥩
Are you getting the train in Kryton? I could see there beingplenty of issues!
Yep, 20 mins on a mainline to London Liv St, knowing Greater Anglia this is one of many excuses for them not to run on Tuesday.
Ah, I wondered. Have they fixed their open plan problems - when we were designing layouts for the open plan offices in our 'new' building the designers were keen to say 'but it won't be like the Crick!!!'
Have they fixed their open plan problems
Sort of. They gave everyone noise cancelling headphones :facepalm: