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[Closed] Do I need a Dog Crate for a new-ish Puppy?

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So we got a 5-month old puppy from the RSPCA this week, everyone seems to recommend a dog crate but I'm not exactly sure what for, he's happy as anything on his bed in the corner. Read a few articles about keeping them in it at night to discourage wee/poo in the house but that seems a bit mean to me. Obviously I bought a crate without a proper plan so wondering whether to keep it..


 
Posted : 30/01/2015 4:24 pm
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is the dog toilet trained?
how is he in the car?
will the crate still fit when its full grown?
whats your doggy holiday plan?


 
Posted : 30/01/2015 4:36 pm
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is the dog toilet trained?

No, so going through that now.
how is he in the car?

Happy enough in the boot if he can't get through the headrests.
will the crate still fit when its full grown?

Not really sure how big he's going to get! Probably.
whats your doggy holiday plan?

Take him when we can, otherwise most likely fiends.


 
Posted : 30/01/2015 4:40 pm
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Do you have children or visiting children? Crates are good for training young humans to leave a dog/puppy alone when it wants a rest. Avoiding all biting or other unpleasantness when the dog gets upset with being pulled around.


 
Posted : 30/01/2015 4:49 pm
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keep it then
encourage use during the day as resting space (door open) close it last thing at night, then straight out for a wee first thing. pup wont soil its bed area unless it really has to. else you may find it likes the habit of leaving a mess by the back door.

extra safety for the pup when travelling in the car, especially when stopping as it prevents pup jumping out when you dont want it to

holidays will likely be much easier if you have a contained dog space, some hotels and b&b will insist. "friends" at least have the safety of knowing your dog isnt destroying their house overnight.

clearly im not the Oracle, all my opinion. if pup out grows the crate, then sell and get another (if its used/useful)

oh and no dog threads without pics - dems da roolz


 
Posted : 30/01/2015 4:49 pm
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Depends if you like the dog shitting in your house. Use a crate and he won't. A month later get rid of the crate.


 
Posted : 30/01/2015 5:30 pm
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I've got a couple for sale if you need one 😉


 
Posted : 30/01/2015 5:37 pm
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we had a crate for our lurcher she hated it


 
Posted : 30/01/2015 5:42 pm
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Depends if you like the dog shitting in your house. Use a crate and he won't. A month later get rid of the crate.

I've read some tripe on here before, but this is pretty spectacular


 
Posted : 30/01/2015 5:43 pm
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I've read some tripe on here before, but this is pretty specacular

😆 what do you think they're for?


 
Posted : 30/01/2015 5:44 pm
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I never used the crate as a toilet training aid. Mine are both 2 years old now and they love there crate. As soon as I turn the lights off at night they run into it.


 
Posted : 30/01/2015 5:46 pm
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Should have said my one dog hated it to begin with. Shehowled and howled but I just ignored it.


 
Posted : 30/01/2015 5:47 pm
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I don't use or like crates. Neither of my dogs had them and I didn't have any mess to speak of. I found a couple of the absorbent pads on the conservatory floor were fine for them to use when they were caught short but pups are usually OK if you take them out last thing at night and first thing in the morning. Dogs naturally won't soil their living space. A baby gate to keep them in the area with hard floor was all I used.

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All you need.


 
Posted : 30/01/2015 5:48 pm
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crates are for putting dogs in, they dont somehow magically stop them from pooing the house or biting kids as mentioned above or jumping out of cars at the wrong time. All these things come from socialisation and training.


 
Posted : 30/01/2015 5:49 pm
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I don't think crates are used for toilet training. Surely only you can do that by taking dog out. I used a crate as a place too put the dog. They also feel safe in it.


 
Posted : 30/01/2015 5:52 pm
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People use crates because a dog wont poo or wee where it sleeps, lock it in a crate and it has to wait, AFAIC that's just a crap/lazy way to train a pup.


 
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We got a puppy about 10 months ago, been in a crate from day 1, it's his place to go when he' wants, he sleeps in it, doesn't & never has messed it so I'd say yes, they are a good thing.


 
Posted : 30/01/2015 6:34 pm
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Thanks for the comments, sounds like it might be useful to keep it and get him used to it for staying away from home etc. Really don't like the idea of locking him in at night - I'm wouldn't fancy being desperate for the loo and having to wait for someone to unlock me..Could be quite stressful for the dog I'd think.

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Posted : 30/01/2015 6:40 pm
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nice looking pup, any ideas what he is?


 
Posted : 30/01/2015 6:43 pm
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4 dogs here over the years and never used one. only reason i could see the need for one would be if the dog was destructive while you are not around, otherwise pointless


 
Posted : 30/01/2015 6:51 pm
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We struggled like crazy to house train our Irish terrier, particularly at night. We then got a crate and almost straight away she's become excellent. Obviously still have to watch her straight after meals, but it's wirked bloody wonders. I rushed are also buggers for stealing and chewing up anything they can find. The crate stops her while we are out. Simple as that. We're happy, she's happy, and the kids still have some unchewed toys so they're happy as well.
Having said that, I've never used one before and had very good results as well.


 
Posted : 30/01/2015 7:01 pm
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Luckily he's really well behaved - so far - so happy to let him roam downstairs for now.

They say he's a Whippet Labrador cross - can really see the Whippet part when he runs!


 
Posted : 30/01/2015 7:05 pm
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Both ours crate trained. Worked really well for all the above reasons.
One oustanding reason we kept ours after they were house trained was that the crate became their own space.
So dog wants a spot of peace and quiet or is bothered by the hoover ,of they toddle to their den.
Would recommend.


 
Posted : 30/01/2015 7:08 pm
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He's a lurcher then! Best dogs in the world.


 
Posted : 30/01/2015 7:09 pm
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ive got one for my new pup

its not to lock them away in , its his place, he likes going in there.

The main thing they are good for is -

I put it in may car when travelling he feels comfortable in it, loose dogs in cars are not ideal
if we go visit family, we can take it, he feels at home anywhere with it
When we go camping, we can put in in the awning, or if we rent a holiday cottage we take it, it is his piece of home

When hes at work i take it, the familiarity for a pup is good I think


 
Posted : 30/01/2015 7:15 pm
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why would a dog basket not have the same result


 
Posted : 30/01/2015 7:21 pm
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We have a crate for our dog, from day 1 she was great in it. Now it's in the kitchen, with her bed in it. We tried putting it away, leaving her bed in the corner, and she spent the next couple of hours wandering around looking all sad till we got her crate back out!!! Crazy hound!


 
Posted : 30/01/2015 8:14 pm
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We had a crate with our puppy from day one and graduated her out of it when she was 14 months old. Why did we use one?
- To avoid toiletting accidents when she was unattended.
- To avoid her chewing any furniture while unattended.
- So she had somewhere safe when we had visiting kids.
- So she had her own safe den where she could retire to.
- So she knew she didn't have free reign on the house and occasionally had to be patient and wait for us.

Never use it as a place for punishment, they have to love going there. Start by feeding them in there then throwing a few treats in when they go to bed so they have something to look forward to. Then add a cue like "go to bed" and they'll learn really quickly and start to run in expecting a treat.


 
Posted : 31/01/2015 6:02 pm
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why would a dog basket not have the same result

Because it's not a self-contained environment. Think of it like a 'cave' where the dog feels cosy and safe, not exposed. And a basket wouldn't work in a car, for the same reason as a dog loose in the back.
I don't think my brother has ever bothered with a crate for either of his dogs, but as one is a Pyrennean Mountain dog and weighs around the same as me, a crate would be about the size of his wife's Suzuki Alto... 😉


 
Posted : 31/01/2015 6:18 pm
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no, you don't need one although if we had our kitchen floor would not have needed replaced ha ha ha ha ha


 
Posted : 02/02/2015 12:35 pm
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dog crates are excellent things. Keeps them safe and your belongs safe if you need to leave them for short periods of time. They'll feel safe and secure in them and a bit of retreat for them. All our pups have had crates and great for transporting them in the car if need be. Just never use a punishment tool.


 
Posted : 02/02/2015 1:00 pm
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Ours started life in a crate with her mother and other pups. We carried that on and she is very happy as her own little home. She goes to bed on her own at night time and I just close the door. She goes in there, while we are out. Mainly because we know the cat leaves half eaten mice etc when he goes on a killing spree, so to save her eating them. We have gone out for 5 mins before, come home and sh is asleep in her cage, as left her to roam the house. Great for taking her in the car too.
Father in law trains guide dog pups and they always use them as a rest home and safe home for the pups.


 
Posted : 02/02/2015 3:25 pm

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