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Do I have to pay for Apple iCloud?

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So I've run out of free iCloud space, about which my phone and iPad are constantly reminding me.

Do I need to pay Apple for more iCloud space of is there an alternative, and how do I prevent the constant nagging from iCloud?


 
Posted : 08/08/2022 5:07 pm
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79p per month for 50GB, just found that a whole lot easier than managing across non-native apps...


 
Posted : 08/08/2022 5:09 pm
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Yes you have to pay for more but it’s a couple of quid a month for 200Gb or 79p for 50Gb or something.  You can share that with your family if you have other Apple users in your household…

1Tb is £6.99 IIRC but I doubt you’ll need that much.. for now anyway!


 
Posted : 08/08/2022 5:10 pm
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79p per month for 50GB, just found that a whole lot easier than managing across non-native app
exactly, cannot understand how people can splash out on iPhones, iPads etc then balk at less than 20p/week for a service which is actually very useful & convenient 🤣

(I actually pay £30/month for the mega Apple subscription which includes 2TB iCloud, music, telly, games, newspapers, fitness vids for the whole family which I think is pretty reasonable for the use we get out of it!)


 
Posted : 08/08/2022 5:11 pm
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If space just pictures etc?

I just set my phone to back up photos to my work one drive. Not had an issue since


 
Posted : 08/08/2022 6:35 pm
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It used to be really expensive, but seems to be dirt cheap now - I pay something daft like £1.79 a month for 200 GB of cloud space for photos.


 
Posted : 08/08/2022 6:37 pm
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Non iCloud options from cheapest onwards

1. Back up and then delete some stuff.
2. Use Google Photos or Dropbox or something. At some point they’ll ask you to start paying as well, and the integration won’t be as good as with iCloud but they might have a more generous free tier.
3. My Synology NAS has a way of syncing my photos with it, but it’s quite a big up front cost, and then I still pay cloud fees to back it up offsite. And I have an iCloud subscription 🤷🏻‍♂️


 
Posted : 08/08/2022 11:51 pm
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exactly, cannot understand how people can splash out on iPhones, iPads etc then balk at less than 20p/week for a service which is actually very useful & convenient 🤣

well, er quite. And done now, 22GB instantly used up reduced to 18.7GB after a couple of hours spent removing all the WhatsApp memes my mates had sent round during lockdowns that were stored on my Android phone and migrated. Should be good for a while. As you say, kinda done and then forget about it. It had the effect of compressing the photos on my phone as well. Although that’s got 256GB capacity it’s now only using 14GB, so my aim of keeping it for a long haul survives the test.


 
Posted : 09/08/2022 7:52 am
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all the WhatsApp memes my mates had sent round during lockdowns that were stored on my Android phone and migrated.

Bloody hell, id you get the whatsapp migration tool to work? I recently moved from Android to Apple and it turned out they'd released the WhatsApp migration tool that very week. Maybe too early as it didn't work for me at all and I lost all my whatsapp chat history 🙁


 
Posted : 09/08/2022 8:15 am
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Also interested in the WhatsApp migration tool

But I think it’s too late for me. If I do it now I’ll loose my current chat?


 
Posted : 09/08/2022 8:55 am
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Bloody hell, id you get the whatsapp migration tool to work? I recently moved from Android to Apple and it turned out they’d released the WhatsApp migration tool that very week. Maybe too early as it didn’t work for me at all and I lost all my whatsapp chat history 🙁

Same here

Also interested in the WhatsApp migration tool

But I think it’s too late for me. If I do it now I’ll loose my current chat?

To use the official Apple/WhatsApp tool you have to factory reset the iPhone, so yes you’ll lose the new chats (no way of merging it from a backup)

There are paid for tools which claim to merge WhatsApp databases, but I’ve no experience with them


 
Posted : 09/08/2022 9:04 am
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Bloody hell, id you get the whatsapp migration tool to work?

No. My Android had saved received whatsapps photos as "photos" on my phone. I used the Android/Apple migration app and mostly things went straight to the iPhone fine, including all of those photos into iCloud photos.

I wasnt bothered about the WhatsApp chat history so lost most of it although all of the contacts / groups successfully went across.


 
Posted : 09/08/2022 9:13 am
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You can share that with your family if you have other Apple users in your household…

Thanks never knew that ! That makes 200gb a bargain for the family to all save our pictures without getting bombarded with irritating messages every week


 
Posted : 09/08/2022 9:30 am
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i have the family sub.

backups for two iphones and an ipad
apple music for three of us.
free, decent games so my son is spending half his time on his ipad watching adverts.
any apps you buy on one device can be used on another.
shared albums/calendars etc.
apple tv has some ok stuff on for a bit of a change from netflix now and then.

all round it's probably worth it.


 
Posted : 09/08/2022 9:32 am
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i have the family sub.

Is that Apple One ?

£2.49 for 200gb or

£5 for 200gb , apple TV and arcade

I had a free trial of apple TV once and didnt find anything to watch, or has it improved recently ?

We currently pay £15 per month for apple music for the family


 
Posted : 09/08/2022 9:39 am
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Apple one family. £19.95 for 200Gb, music, arcade and tv.


 
Posted : 09/08/2022 9:42 am
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Is that Apple One ?
yes, but the everything option 😃 I wouldn't pay separately for the telly, there's occasionally some good stuff to watch, it's all bundled in though so 🤷‍♂️ Everything else we use loads.


 
Posted : 09/08/2022 9:44 am
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I have the 2Tb sub for 6.99 a month. For backing up three iPhones, and four iPads, as well as being able to access all their data in t’cloud, it’s a complete no-brainer.

Yes, there are cheaper ways, but I can’t be arsed.


 
Posted : 09/08/2022 10:00 pm
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I have an Iphone, but use Google photos and also Amazon photos, free with prime.

My iCloud is just used for storing my settings.

<span style="font-size: 0.8rem;">In WhatsApp you can turn off save to camera roll for specific chats, good if you have friends who send stuff you don’t want to keep in your photo storage </span>


 
Posted : 09/08/2022 10:15 pm
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This thread has reminded me I need to sort where I store and back up my phone too, I used to do it to an aged MacBook but that has died now so looking at the cloud.

I had an issue years ago when I first subscribed to Apple Music that it moved all my music files to the cloud, some places I visit have little to no signal and my music wouldnt play, to get around this I had to turn off sync library and maybe download all the music to be listened to offline which was annoying as I just wanted to listen to some songs and instead spent hours fixing the issue.

If I was to take up the Apple One for Family, I'd then look to add my photos and notes from my phone to it, I assume these files will all be removed from my device to the cloud and if I was offline I wouldn't be able to access them? or can I tell it that is a back up and it'll just take a copy of these files and leave the originals on my phone?

I am not doing this to free up space on my phone, more so I have a place I can restore my phone from if I break it or its stolen etc


 
Posted : 15/08/2022 10:55 am
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If I was to take up the Apple One for Family, I’d then look to add my photos and notes from my phone to it, I assume these files will all be removed from my device to the cloud and if I was offline I wouldn’t be able to access them? or can I tell it that is a back up and it’ll just take a copy of these files and leave the originals on my phone?
AFAIK then Notes works like the iCloud folder on your Mac... assuming there's enough storage space, the files are synced and stored locally on all your devices... I've just turned on Airplane mode & I can access all the iCloud notes on my phone.
(There's also a separate Notes folder for local storage)

Photos works the same by default I believe, but there's an option on each device to save local storage space by storing the original files in the cloud, and a lower-res version on your device. So you'll always be able to see a version of the photos even if offline.


 
Posted : 15/08/2022 11:08 am
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or can I tell it that is a back up and it’ll just take a copy of these files and leave the originals on my phone?

Yep, I just use it as a backup and have 200 Gb of photos on my phone!


 
Posted : 15/08/2022 2:49 pm
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I had an issue years ago when I first subscribed to Apple Music that it moved all my music files to the cloud, some places I visit have little to no signal and my music wouldnt play, to get around this I had to turn off sync library and maybe download all the music to be listened to offline which was annoying as I just wanted to listen to some songs and instead spent hours fixing the issue.

I looked into that, but gave it a miss because it would have downgraded my 320kb ripped files to 256, but then Apple went over to Lossless, so I decided to subscribe and download stuff to my phone.
It proved so appealing that my iPhone 11 Pro Max with 512Gb of storage has maxxed out! I’ve had to remove a bunch of downloads and just leave the streaming files, but I’ve still got 55,000+ tracks! I’ll be upgrading to a 14 Pro Max soon, which will have a terabyte of storage, which should keep me ticking over for a while.

The only problem I found was that some albums/tracks didn’t sync to the phone properly and are greyed-out, but my Mac Mini developed an issue and won’t start up, and as it’s twelve years old, is difficult to find a fix for.

It’s not a big deal, I’ll see if someone local can poke around in its innards, it had had a new HDD not that long before, but the Apple Reseller went tits-up not long after. 😕


 
Posted : 15/08/2022 11:07 pm

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