[Closed] Diet challenge

gaining or losing?

85kg on the 23rd

120kg on the 27th

87.4Kgs

I'm going out until Christmas. 90.7kg this morning, where do you reckon I'll be by the 23rd?

The pub at end of the road?

In the shed with a empty box of pies

Late night shopping at M&S

difficult time of year to do this... mince pies galore, chese at every turn, salads aren't quite as nice when it's dark and wet and miserable... nipping out for a few "chirstmas drinks" this year with the lads?... hmmm... i respect your apparent determination, but consign you to failure...

do a before picture in your pants tonight, then then same pants/pose/room of the house on the 23rd... i just want to a picture of you in your pants, clearly.

good luck, we're all counting on you.

nipping out for a few "chirstmas drinks" this year with the lads?

What lads?

You can all refer to the old picture of me in my pants if you really want a fix. Might post another in the summer, we'll see 🙂

It'll be a piece of piss to lose weight if your cookers still buggered 🙂

We're currently frying a lot of things...

Hi fat, low carb - you'll be reet.

Today I have had scrambled eggs with cheese, coffee, some nuts, bowl of chicken and veg soup (had some potatoes in it), tea with no sugar, then a couple of poppadoms. Planned dhal for dinner, no rice. Did you know poppadoms are made with gram flour and are hence low GI?

Are you doing Keto?

Nah. I'll just iDiet.

I've been weaning myself off the carbs around the riding though - I now only have them on longer rides, and only after longer rides too - short ones I have nothing.

I'll just iDiet

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Yeah, I know - I'm an asshole.

Me, a week ago: 11 stones - today: 10.10 BOOOM!

Nudging 100kg if your December is anything like mine is going. Bike riding/running in abeyance while the bronchitis and the UTI clears. Plus there is Christmas cheese and port to be consumed, Christmas cake, mince pies...... Before we even get to pigs in blankets and stuffing.
Doomed I tell you, doomed.

How tall are you OP?

(Not interested in guessing your post Christmas weight..it's just i love a man on a diet..makes my legs go all wobby)

My legs are already wobbly 🙂

5'11

He was after your height, not your circumference!

They're about the same 😉

90.2 this morning.

This morning I was 3kg heavier than Chris Froome's TdF weight 🙂

Just dipped below 70kg here for the first time in years. Mrs Blobby will start complaining soon. Chances of it staying under 70 over Xmas... slim 😉

molgrips - good luck, its easy enough to loose weight, keeping it off is where its hard.

I lost stone and half in last year, slow and steady. used a fitbit to help see what I was notionally burning/eating and that helped. The Mrs has told me to stop and eat more pies, huzzah.

mrBlobby - poor name choice fella! I'm 72kilo and 5 foot 11, so unless youre vertically challenged it should be mrSkinny 🙂

Good luck everyone else too 🙂

Why don't you just have a go at DIY gastric band surgery?

Can't be any trickier than a Passat ECU or cooker clock 😀

We've been doing salad or roasted veg, with fish every other day and copious handfuls of toasted seeds for the last few weeks, purely for health reasonable ns rather than weight loss..

I had a microwave curry last night which made me feel pretty nauseous

I'll join you on this, too many Christmas treats started in November have caused me to bloat. I was 89.8kg this morning and will go until Christmas morning. As long as I can resist the box of mince pies and peanut fudge in the fridge!

Good luck trying to loose it, its even better if you manage to keep it off. My advice would be to just cut out the junk, but don't feel bad if you do indulge. Its all a balance after all.
FWIW I recon you'll be about 86kg by the 23rd, but don't be shocked if you go back up to 89 after xmas day. Aspects such as water retention (booze incl) will have a big impact on fluctuations on short term weight gain and loss. Keep training / riding / being active and make your metabolism do the work. Better to loose 1kg of fat rather than .5kg of fat, .5kg of muscle and 1kg of water...

At approx the same height
I have gone from 86 to 82kg in the past 30 days by being more regular with commuting cycling and trying not to finish everything on the plate.

SO as you are likely to have more will power than me I guess 86kg - same loss in a bit less time.

(assuming no coke and hookers involved)

90.2 this morning.

That'll be the Dhal effect, works for me too 😉

I rarely put on much over Christmas, usually. My weight is very stable, it's hard to lose it but it's hard to put it on. Problem is it's stabilised at too heavy!

Four years ago I was at 82 but that's when we had our second child, and things got a bit crazy. Went up to 87 after four bad months, since then it crept up to around 92 at one point. This summer I gained bags of power doing loads of riding at Swinley but didn't lose any weight.

Best way to do it is go by "feel" - I reckon there's a 10kg window between feeling to thin and over weight.

We haven't got any scales at home; but I got weighed at the doctors once a couple of years back and I was 82/83kg. The doctor said that was perfectly healthy for someone who's 6'3". I disagree; just felt "heavy" and slow on the bike. Plus small t shirts no longer fit me so I was having to resort to wearing loose fitting blouses 😀

Likewise; I jumped on some scales at the start of september this year. They read 72kg (that was with shoes/clothes on). No wonder I felt a bit gaunt, although that was after plenty of miles over summer so it wasn't really surprising.

My weight has gone up since then, to what I don't know, but I feel fine on the bike and t shirts fit properly, so I guess it's about right.

Hope that is of some use. Good luck!

Coffee for breakfast, salad for lunch. Feeling fine energy wise, if a little strange in the head.. this always happens when I go low carb.. maybe it's ketogenesis or something. Let's see if I can manage a run later.

I'm thiking that, at least for now, I'll reduce the riding to fit in with the food, not the other way round - see if I can shift the weight, then ramp up the riding Feb or March.

I may target BB200 in October or Ben Nevis Tri in Sept.

Don't forget your Tour Divide plans. You might want to keep a bit of timber in reserve for that... 🙂

Nah, I'll need rid of it.

My plan is to do it South to North. That way I'll slim down before the mountains 🙂

10km run yesterday fasted which was pretty good at first but the last 2km were gruelling.. This morning 89.0kg.

I'll join in if I may - fed up with being a fatty sweating and blowing like a beached whale for the last erm... 10 yrs 😆

110.2 Kg this morning, 5'11", 44 yr old man thing.

Let the grammes fall off ..

Although fat will obviously weigh something, it seems foolish to focus on losing weight as opposed to losing fat.

If you really want to lose the fat try eating your normal diet but simply less of it*. I know a few don't subscribe to calories in/calories out etc but I reckon that's mostly claimed by those that lack will power or self control when it comes to food.

*Try this - it's aggressive but works...

[b]Eat 8-10 calories per pound of your GOAL body weight, per day.[/b]

In most cases it really is in vs out so reduce and you'll lose. There's a case of a doctor that lost weight by eating only Twinkies or something so you don't really have to lose out on the stuff you like, as above, just eat less.

Beware alcohol and fruit juice/sugary drinks - non filling and lots of extra calories without anything substantial hitting the gut.

And good luck to anyone having a go at it!

I was wrong. The guy ate more than just Twinkies...

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/

Blooming European's

15 stones of pure trifle. Did a Thursday healthy food shop and whatever change I has left, I chucked in the charity bucket. Posted my bank cards by third class to myself, so I am penniless 🙂

My one millionth attempt to stop smoking and get fit, so no money to cheat ( yes I am weak) vaping like a maniac ( and farting like one) and bouncing off the walls.

I do have more energy and not coughing. Still thinking about smoking though. Did go out and run two miles this morning (I nearly died) weights when I got in.

Don't have hot pants like the OP but I will try to buy some.

It is calories in versus calories out. The problem is the calories out part is very variable and complex, lots of ways for calories to leave the body. Calories in is quite complex too 🙂

Not [i]that[/i] complex. If you're overweight or carrying too much fat, eat less and move more. Barring medical conditions most folk will lose fat.

How many calories do you eat on an average day, Molgrips? Also, what type of macro ratio are you tucking away...?

Coffee for breakfast, salad for lunch.

That's pretty much my diet* though I also have porridge or bacon for breakfast, and the salad contains half a tin of chickpeas or lentils and a load of olive oil.

*in the "what I eat" sense, rather than "trying to lose weight"

It is complex, teasel. We've done this a hundred times on here, this is meant to be a motivational thread. If you want to argue diet science start another one.

I'm not sure it helps to [i]think[/i] of it as complex though Molgrips. That means you're seeing it as a challenge and perhaps overthinking it. For me it's been similar to stopping smoking, where you recognise your habits and minimise the bad ones.

My wife looks after most of the cooking, so I asked how she deals with it. The answer was to know what your staples are and get those in each week. Am now -15.2kg in 3 months so something is working 🙂

Depends where you start from. If you are fat biffer eating pies and cakes, then yes you can do the simple things.

I've always been fit and active, I've cycled all my life and I've never been really fat no matter how badly I eat. Never bought trousers more than 34". Just heavier than I need to be to win races. Body fat was 17% last time I measured it.

I know exactly what I personally need to do to lose weight, I've done it before. The problem is sticking to the plan, because I like cakes, sweets and bread. That's the simple part of it.

If you want to argue diet science

I was actually trying help so maybe it's you that's spoiling for an argument when it comes to this, though I do tend to get a bit of a frosty reception on this forum for some reason and genuinely can't think why. It's getting ****ing tedious, TBH. Very childish considering the average age of forum user.

And yeah, maybe it's flippant to claim it's not complex but there is, in general, a basic method to weight loss and those that fail generally can't really tell you what they're eating of a day.

I also don't think cycling on an amateur level is as good for weight loss as, say, a brisk walk. I think it was Lodrick(sp) that started a thread a while back and wrote something along the lines of how inefficient it was when compared to a bike ride. Right there is the reason it's good. Obviously it'll come down to how much effort you put in on your ride but I lost more weight walking than cycling for a similar amount of time.

But, obviously what you want to read is Go, Molgrips - you can do it!!! So...er... whoooh! Go, you!

or something...

😕

I'll also add an opinion I have of cycling. It tends to make you feel more hungry than you actually are. If you yield to that feeling you can throw away any gains (or loss, depending on how you look at it) by eating until sated. There's almost a culture of eating the shit out of anything and everything following a bike ride, probably justifying it all by deluding yourself into believing you've earned it.

Just a theory based on personal experience and observation of other cyclists.

perhaps overthinking it.

Haha this is grips and losing weight we're talking about.

If you are fat biffer eating pies and cakes

And

Because I like cakes sweets and bread

Seems you might be onto something there

Teasel, don't feel like I'm getting at you, I'm not trying to. You are right in most cases, your typical chubby IT working weekender would indeed be served well by simply eating less and doing more riding. But there are many who don't succeed doing or attempting this, and the reasons are complex.

The problem saying calories in vs out stem mainly from the out part. What your body actually does with what goes into your mouth is not at all straightforward, nor is what happens inside your body when you ride... Whatever that means to us.

If we just eat less, and ride more, eventually the need for food may simply overtake willpower, even if you have plenty to begin with. So the thinking starts there.

Nickc - I don't consider 34" trousers to be those of a fat biffer. That starts at 36 😉

It wasn't the fat buffer bit I was alluding to, more the cakes and sweeties.

But we've been here before, and given its the run up to Xmas...oh, and never mind the quality, feel the ironing...

You are right in most cases, your typical chubby IT working weekender would indeed be served well by simply eating less and doing more

Ha ha physician heal thyself

Pretty cool idea to loose weight just before the Gluttony Holidays. I say if you can limit the sheer amount of food available this time of year, you'll be right come Feb for a 75kg bottom limit.

Just fir some high intensity intervals in over the holidays to aid fat burning, drink more water than you think you need and if you feel hungry, have a glass of two of water before you head for the pies. If you still feel hungry after that then at least you've either delayed eating and or replaced a meal.

Get used to feeling hungry, becomes a habit after a while.

because I like cakes, sweets and bread.

Have you considered that rather than liking those things, you have merely developed habitual behaviour around their consumption?

Absolutely, it is habitual. Put the kids to bed, then rather than Netflix and chillnin our house it's Netflix and dessert. That is hard to quit. However I do really really like them. I can retrain myself to not like super sweet things but then I just crave bread...

I won't be doing high intensity intervals for a while yet. They are what ruin me because they drive me to eat more carbs. If I don't eat carbs, I can't do high intensity properly.

Hence me deciding this time to diet and then exercise according to the energy I have.

88.8

Can I join in? 5'11" 74.7kg (loss 0)

Yep. Post your weight daily if you like, hopefully the potential for shame will keep you on track 🙂

To follow the format:

Day 4: 88.8kg -0.2kg today -1.9kg total

Day 5: 89.3kg +0.5kg today -1.4kg total

88.6

It is calories in versus calories out.

Nope its not, it's all about eating well.

Cut down drastically on the beer, bread, biscuits, cakes, pasta, sugar, fruit etc and eat a diet where you get your carbs from vegetables (e.g. sweet potatoes), oats, rice etc and that's half the battle. Eat some healthy snacks mid morning and mid afternoon between your main meals and eat a lot of protein as part of your diet to ensure its fat not muscle mass you're loosing.

You wont have to worry about fat, calorie counting etc and you won't have to worry about feeling hungry either. You won't even think it's a diet - trust me it works!

Haven't weight myself for a couple of days, been in a hotel.

I've eaten very little, exercised and not really been hungry. It's interesting - in previous diet efforts I'd have had a refeed day by now, so it'll be interesting to see what happens when I get back on the scales.

Exercising has also been interesting. Feels quite different to ride and run on a low carb low calorie diet.

Went down to 88.0 the second week before Christmas, then 88.6 the week before, then I had a cold so did little riding. 89.4 this morning though, so not too bad given the bingeing and lack of riding.

90.7, down to 89.4
1.3kg
2.9lbs
1lb/week, keep it up.

I don't want to talk about it 😳

Lol 🙂

Quite pleased with myself for not gaining a significant amount over Christmas. The folks have left so it's back to normal however there is still a shitload of food in the house ...