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Really looking forward to this - have read in a couple of places that this is going to be good. Fingers crossed!
Channel 4 - 9pm.
Ta for reminder need to set the Sky+
It does look good.
Looking forward to it.
I'm in.
Video set as there's no way Mrs RBIT will watch anything with subtitles (hence whole second series of The Bridge waiting to be watched). She did manage reasonably well with subtitles Serbo-Croat in the Last Panthers mind you.
I've been looking forward to this since I saw the advert for the first time about a month ago.
Been having German lessons since September, they'll not be any use though unless there is a scene in a bar or hotel where the lad is chatting someone up by asking them personal questions (as that's about as far as I've got).
Set to record, just about to start the latest series of homeland too, I can only binge watch series these days
[i]Video set [/i]
UK '83?
Clashes with War & Peace... which one is best?
Trailer for this looks excellent. Is on series record!
Lots of 80's sunth pop too
Lots of 80's sunth pop too
Is that the German equivalent of Synth Pop? 😆
No, New Zealand equivalent...
We're having to watch a Michael McIntyre DVD because my wife doesn't do subtitles, so I'll be watching it on a slight delay.
1983 (year that is) is just too recent to me so I am not watching that but might do later on ...
I prefer BBC1 period drama (think that's what they are called) 'War & Peace'.
I think it might have something to do with the rise of Leon Trotsky ... lefties "godfather" ... 😆 edit: ... or not ...
Grrr its got that bastid from Unser Mutter Unser Vater in!
And another! Son of the General Edal
I keep putting my hands over my eyes!
I'm watching.
Just finished reading team Yankee and a whole load of other "what if" cold war books, so this is well timed!
No, New Zealand equivalent...
That could get lost in STW but, yes, very good missus! 🙂
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That was so, so good. That lunchtime scene was super tense!
Will be going back for more of that!
Oddly, I spent a fair amount of time in West Germany around then, and owing to my Grandfather's job at the time, went to a few BBQs/garden parties at high ranking German officer's houses, and that location looked utterly perfect.
Not very conducive to an early night. I'm full of excitement now!
We're having to watch a Michael McIntyre DVD
WHAT on earth have you done to deserve that ???? 🙄
Just finished reading team Yankee and a whole load of other "what if" cold war books, so this is well timed!
Team Yankee - that takes me back! That along with red storm rising and Chieftains...
Have you tried Andy Farmans 'Armageddons song' series yet? Harvey Black's 'effect' series being very good too.
Anyone identify the tune at the first ad break?
There's a playlist - might be in here:
Needed a double bill! Likewise flash, my Great Uncle was Chairman of Bayer and we used to Summer at their house sometimes. My cousins and I would play 'army' most days and due to them being German we decided on Russians as the common enemy. Anyway, one hot evening my Aunt & Uncle were hosting a party just like the one in the episode. In the heat of stick Tommy gun battle I forgot our compromise and flew round the the corner to a packed terrace of German industrialists screaming 'Kill the German Bastards!' (insert fake machine gun noise), realised my error, kept running to the treehouse and stayed there till they all left.
Anyone identify the tune at the first ad break?
Peter Schilling, major Tom?
Read all the armageddon's. Good books for night shifts but kinda got carried away with some of the story lines. Just ordered a hard back of ww3 1983 that team Yankee is based around looking forward to it!
'Kill all the...'.
Didn't Russia account for 4 out of 5 of all German soldiers killed?
I'm going with the Chinese lady is American and the US Generals insistance that he knows the new first Lieutenant is a plant/test as the General spotted tampering with his briefcase. The 'hello, remember X and X etc' were to confirm western fears.
Abit like the boathouse at the Regiment?
Chinese girl a plant by the East to shore up his cover.
The American arrival is a separate thread.
Possibly.
As last week, what was the music with the intro, something about falling, kamikaze etc. Any clues? It's driving me mad !!
It's getting better..
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As last week, what was the music with the intro, something about falling, kamikaze etc. Any clues? It's driving me mad !!
Its been used in a mountain bike film, I know that much. 3 Minute Gaps?
Peter Schilling, Major Tom. Bought this, back in the day..
Am I the only one finding this show rather silly? I'm happy to suspend disbelief for the sake of a plot line/ setting, but some of the stuff in this (the tree, the phone call, the handing on of the disk) are so far fetched that the show has lost credibility. I'm aware that there's some German 'humour' in it, but even so....
I definitely think his old comrade was a test to confirm he's not legit. Chinese girl mmmmmmmmmmmm not sure where she fits in, too obvious for Red China. British maybe?Brilliant series so far though.
I want to see more 80s Opel cars.
I was going along the same lines as Flashy for the Chinese girl. Although maybe his steak and room number thing gave him away as being from the East.
Vinny - I kind of agree, but from some of the things I've read and watched, some pretty ridiculous things were used/carried out in the name of espionage. Identifying which is and isn't real could be quite tricky.
Thanks. For some reason I was convinced it was something else. But it wasn't 🙂
Am I the only one finding this show rather silly?
No, it's reached my silliness threshold.
I guess they're hoping old cars and a bit of nudity is enough to keep people watching.
a bit of nudity
Yes, but what nudity!
Am I the only one finding this show rather silly?
Isn't it supposed to be a bit silly?
The Computer stuff in the recent episode was hilarious, and well played for comic effect.
Quite a few good lines, including the one about secretaries and Russian spies.
My favourite TV program for a while.
I only started on it this week, so have missed the nudity.
I'm loving the soundtrack, and the cars, and the whole "this Cold War paranoia was so wierd but within my memory" of it. My 12 year old would enjoy it as he likes modern history.
No idea where the series is actually going though!
I borrowed an Amstrad PCW in 1988 to teach myself word-processing and it looked just like those computers!
As I posted elsewhere (oops!) I'm loving this series; great images, colour, style, music, dead-on.
My dad had one of those IBM computers - one of the first 'portables' before laptops, 20Kgs+. Keyboard folds into the case and there is a carry handle on the back. Took out one of the floppies to fit a 10Mb hard disk. I doubt encryption was much used in the 80s, data sharing wasn't really a thing back then, and you'd always have a hard copy as floppy media wasn't exactly reliable.
This is a very good programme. I also enjoyed 'The Americans' when it was on ITV4, looks like it's still going but not on UK telly 🙁 Boo.
There's some great stuff in this series, loving it.
Reminds me of Victor Suvorov's book 'The Aquarium' about his time in Soviet intelligence. A great read if you can get hold of a copy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquarium_%28Suvorov%29
Was disappointed to see that they used a facelifted Citroen BX as a background prop in this week's episode, 3 years before it's introduction.
Granted, this fact is probably not going to ruin the series for most people. 😀
(I think it's a great program)
There was a continuity error at the petrol station as well - as Stamm gets in the car, the pump is still clearly in the car, but they drive off and it's mysteriously removed itself. Bugged me for the rest of the episode!
Oh yes. I thought that was a setup for him ripping the hose off the pump, then getting questioned by the general how he managed to forget when Stamm was stood at the back of the car filling up all the time the boss was in the bog.
Then the BX thing distracted me from it.
Just watched Gale(?) in Breaking Bad singing the D. 83 theme tune.
I like it!
Great series. Can't normally be bothered with subtitles as they change the feel of a film too much but this is working. Loved the scenes with the floppy disk.
Then the BX thing distracted me from it.
Just as well you didn't notice the basic code on the computer that they'd written to display the encrypted document.
The sub plot with Mum and gf (and baby) in the East, how will that play out?
I wonder if Annett will inform on mum for the forbidden books?
I haven't seen any of this series yet.
Think I'll be checking out 4OD later.
A bit darker that one
There was a continuity error at the petrol station as well - as Stamm gets in the car, the pump is still clearly in the car, but they drive off and it's mysteriously removed itself.
The merc they used at the filling station was not the same car as the one they arrived in, in Belgium. It bugs me that I'm sad enough to know this.
yup. went dark very quickly.
I am enjoying it too but the thing that I find frustrating is the subtitles as there have been some scenes where I have had to rewind to watch the expressions etc due to the amount of dialogue, otherwise it has been quite good.
Poor Linda. 🙁
She got well and truly shafted. (Metaphorically and....
Poor Linda indeed 🙁 She was one of the more likable characters. Bit of an extreme reaction to a cat allergy.
Despite some of the plot holes I'm enjoying this. In some ways the subtitles are helping as need to concentrate rather than letting things just wash over me. (also using rewind).
The building/tunnel where he chases the bomber was the same one from Brussels when he bumped into Edel and the hooker.
Not just me then
Managed to rotate 90deg while unconscious on the railway track as well I think.
Regardless i liked the Worcestershire sauce segment and the comeback line "dont moralize with me while shagging you way through the West".
Is Bonnie Tyler on the Spotify playlist?
I noticed both those bits of in-continuity to.
I think they used the same tunnel for the Carlos the Jackal scrap down which Carrie Matheson chased the bloke who was going to detonate the Sarin bomb down in Homeland a few of weeks back.The building/tunnel where he chases the bomber was the same one from Brussels when he bumped into Edel and the hooker.
You'd have thought the efficient Germans would have thought to install CCTV after the first incident.
Can someone please run me through the Carlos the Jackal bit as I was making a sandwich at that point and came back in to the see the bomb explode!
Enjoying it so far. I suspected that Alex Edel might defect. There's now potential for some interesting plots where neither Moritz/Martin and Alex know they're working for the same (east) side. Also I suspect Moritz/Martin might defect to the west!
My understanding is that Martin/Moritz was being used unwittingly by Schweppenstette? to pass detonators hidden in the decaf coffee container to the bomber. Possibly an unsanctioned operation to heighten tension between East & West.
Reading Wikipedia the attack on Maison de France did happen and Carlos the Jackel claimed responsibility. Given that Carlos still seems to be alive and in prison the person Martin/Moritz chased into the tunnel (reminded me of Homeland as well) must have been someone Carlos got to place the bomb on his behalf?
It was it bit of isolated random, (or at least didn't develop last night)
The decaf-coffee canister contained a detonator that the East Germans wanted to deliver to Carlos. Sound's like they had confiscated some from him while he was in the east, but were quite happy to see them used in West Berlin.
When Stamm arrived in West Berlin on the train he met Carlos, handed over the 'coffee' and almost immediately some kind of French cultural building blew up. Stamm saw Carlos running away and gave chase down onto the train tracks where there was that big scrap, culminating in Stamm leaving Carlos's body on the line. Then he crossed to the East to donate his kidney to his mum.
I think that's the gist of it anyhow.
edit - WAAAY too slow. And OwenH's suggestion of patsy sound good to me.
Reading Wikipedia the attack on Maison de France did happen and Carlos the Jackel claimed responsibility.
And it's proven that the Stasi were involved:
http://www.nytimes.com/1994/04/12/world/ex-east-german-agent-guilty-in-terror-bombing.html
It's an interesting thing they have done with the story, essentially painting the DDR authorities in a positive, if slightly bumbling and paranoid, light, pulling strings behind protests etc. In the west - until you are suddenly confronted with acts of real brutality carried out by them
Managed to rotate 90deg while unconscious on the railway track as well I think.
Having watched that bit a few times I think that his head is on a thick railway sleeper, not the railway track as it might first appear. Therefore his body does not rotate.
Then he crossed to the East to donate his kidney to his mum.
I read that as "to detonate his kidney for his mum."
That would have been a waste of a good organ.
Feature length finale next week! Dan dan daaaaaaaah!
Feature length finale next week! Dan dan daaaaaaaah!
I heard that but there 2 more episode in the run.
Two more episodes but they will be run back to back next week. Doesn't appear to be any evidence of a season 2 🙁
Interesting episode last night, Alex really hadn't thought through the kidnap plot very well. Some good one liners around as well.
Not sure why Kramer would have answered the phone in the brothel though?
Training no radio no mobile his handlers know where he is so it could be for him , ringing phone will draw someone to it who may discover him and the others so answer it silently friend ids self or if hostile just cut the call and leave off the hook.
I have no idea if this is accurate but that's what i made up when i thought why would he answer that .