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My Daughter lives in a rented property and went out today to a party
when she got home the nextdoor Bastids have been in her garden and cut down a conifer bush .
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see the stump in the corner and the evidence in the neighbours garden
Sam my daughter is a tad livid at this and wondering what to do
I have told her to contact the landlord first .
just wondered what the legal position was ?????
legal position
Criminal damage.
May have landlords permission.
Criminal damage.
However, the branches have not be returned so thats theft.
Not relevant. Bit leylandii are a pain in the ass. Some of my tenants have them ....curse.
Nuts, hardly a monster was it.
Trespass, vandalism, any others ?
Landlord not given permission as fell out with neighbours over not paying owt for new fence
Sam is emailing the photo to him tonight .
Dont think it was leylandi as it was quite slow growing and not changed much in 2 years she has lived there.
When your daughter took tenancy was the conifer important to her decision to rent the property ?
Did she plant the tree ?
Just missed that post.
Call the law. However, I don't think they will be that fussed. But try anyway.
No she didnt plant the tree
and I dont think she was in love with it but did rather like the privacy and looks of it rather than a stump
Call the law
Special Branch.
Criminal damage.
[s]Leaf[/s] Leave a polite letter or have a convo requesting that they cover the cost of replacement and why might be in order. The alternative being explained as speaking to the police. Emphasis on polite!
Special Branch.
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LOL @ sc-xc
I guess its up to the landlord to pursue for replacement costs if he can be bothered.
Special Branch.
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All you need now is a "Super Grass".
A friend has a crininal record for doing excactly that with a neighbours tree.
Crinimal damage
Looks to me like they've taken the p1ss with the fence aswell then, not only not meeting part of the cost, but painting their side so yours looks a bit crap with their green paint runs and splodges. 😕
Its not her problem, just inform the landlord, and ignore.
B.A.Nana
no the fallout was sams landlord refused to pay half for the fence saying he owned the fence on the other side of the garden and had nowt to do with this fence.
I'd tell em you'll forget about it if they come and paint your side of the fence, otherwise you'll paint your side blue and not be responsible for all the drips on their side. (seeing as they have let loads of green run onto your side)
write Bastid in their grass with bleach
BTW Fence is wrong way around
Possibly explains why they cut the bush then (touching their precious fence).
Any proof the neighbour did it? It's as likely to be the landlord who is hoping the tennant will report and press for presecution for criminal damage. Nowt so strange as folk. Ignore it and don't get involved in someone else's feud is my advice.
would I be right in thinking that the majority of the same bush was growing on their side, with a small portion growing on the left side?
If so, perhaps they view the bush as theirs, and doing you a favour?
there was a shed in the corner of the next door garden before the new fence went up .
neighbour said they wanted to come in to Sams garden to paint that side of the fence while they were at the party so Sam OK`ed that .
came home from party and bush gone and laid where the shed used to be .
You need to mount an undercover operation.
he's done her a favour. It cost me £400 to get rid of mine
Criminal damage
Happened to me the neighbours cut down an apple tree in my garden to get their shed in.
Unfortunately they also then left a foot of the shed hanging over on to my side of the boundary. I did speak to them first and their response was pretty much **** off. I got their attention when i started the chain saw and we came to an amicable arrangement.
You can cut any branches on your side but you do need to return the cut stuff to the owners so it will be theft as well.
WTF makes people think they can do this?
If it's like our property each person owns one fence on the boundary between neighbours. Mine is on the RH side looking from the road. It looks like it's the other way round here which adds a technical trespass with the fence posts to the list of liberties the neighbour has taken.
rented? move out at the earliest opportunity. It's not like she's stuck there until she can sell the place
If they're going to pull a stunt like that because of a dispute with the landlord, god knows what else they could get up to over time.
Criminal damage
Don't think I've seen such a poorly constructed fence plainly the neighbour is a retard...
i know the middle post is a rubbish plank
The 1st approach should be to ask the neighbour to replace the destroyed bush / tree, 2nd involve the police ..... The 1 st thing they will do is ask if you've asked the neighbour to make good the damage. If their response to a polite request is no.... I bet it will be ...then the police would intervene....
Anyone who would act in the way that the neighbour has its unlikely that they will respond well...
As you guys sure it is criminal damage and not civil?
If it is criminal damage, that crime has already been committed and cannot be uncommitted, even by replacement.
WTF makes people think they can do this?
JY Sams 24 and a new mum Neighbours are in their 60`s and think they can do as they please .
Sams just about cooled from incandescent to just angry and will be going round tomorrow to see them .
Ta to all advise suggestions and funny bits
As you guys sure it is criminal damage and not civil?
Just google 'cutting down trees criminal damage' for a few recent cases.
To the OP... advice to your daughter should be to inform the landlord and leave it for the landlord to sort.
yes it beggars belief someone thinks they can go into someone elses garden and do this though
Might be worth considering moving as tbh they will never be good neighbours if they think that is OK behaviour
record the conversation as well
T1000 - MemberThe 1st approach should be to ask the neighbour to replace the destroyed bush / tree, 2nd involve the police ..... The 1 st thing they will do is ask if you've asked the neighbour to make good the damage. If their response to a polite request is no.... I bet it will be ...then the police would intervene....
this is a good approach IMO
Next door to me the factor of a block of flats cut down a load of trees on communal land - he had to replace 15 mature trees. Must have cost him many thousands
http://www.google.co.uk/search?sugexp=chrome,mod=13&ix=h9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=cutting+down+trees+criminal+damage
this thread allready at number 8 on page 1
google loves STW
Sam's just about cooled from incandescent to just angry and will be going round tomorrow to see them.
It's not her bush. Why is she going to see them about it?
It's not her bush.
And now, this thread is perilously close to going off the rails.....
OH FFS give over - you will be saying this if they steal the door and smash the windows as they are not hers either 🙄
In their 60s? Just go round and punch him in the face.
This bloke is 63
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Matt24k - Member
This bloke is 63
big bloke
And you wouldn't want to go all up in his grill, you get me?
yes but he is slow
damn that Ninja edit making flash's quip look redundant
JY Sams 24 and a new mum Neighbours are in their 60`s and think they can do as they please .
Sams just about cooled from incandescent to just angry and will be going round tomorrow to see them .
Tell Sam to tell neighbours wife (and neighbours)that is where she was sunbathing last week in the good weather and she suspects he has cut the hedge down to get a better look. (That will put the cat amongst the pigeons) 😈
just found out the neighbour has an MBE
draw a huge penis on his lawn using weedkiller...
Burn his new ****ting fence down.
just found out the neighbour has an MBE
Murdered Bush Evidence ?
Mighty Big Ego
Thats red wine spat all over the puter Lol cranberry
Draw a goalpost on your side of the fence and get said child a ball to play with. Sorted.
Who the f@*k planted a leilandi tree so close to a decent looking stone wall? Although her neighbours are clearly arsewits they've done her landlord a big favour by getting rid of it before the tree uprooted the wall.
advice to your daughter should be to inform the landlord and leave it for the landlord to sort.
+1
without meaning to sound curt, it's pretty much nothing to do with the tennant.
SJ IMHO its got a fair bit to do with the tennant
as yes its a rented house but its also a home and as such she has a right to not have her neighbour coming in to her rented garden and pruning the rented trees .
I'm with drawing a big Leylandi on his lawn with weedkiller.
When they moan just shrug & tell then to speak to the landlord.
why has no one mentioned bombers or weeing in shoes?
cos they are old and lame?
just found out the neighbour has an MBE
Mountain biking edjit.
Edjit is how some irish peeps i know say idiot.
well I see your point Trout, but the tenant doesn't own anything in the eyes of the law.
Trespassing I can agree with, but I see it as a responsibility to report to landlord and not a lot else.
Has your daughter spoken to to landlord yet? there might be a slim chance it was pre-agreed? They may have verbal agreements regarding upkeep of plants/grounds etc.
The most simple thing to do would be take a deep breath, knock on the door and say something like ''sorry but I cant help but notice you have entered my garden and cut down a hedge, did you have permission to do so?''
If they say yes, they verify.
If they say no, then ask what was their reason for trespassing, and I will have to report this.
That or speak to the landlord first.
Keep the moral high ground. For now, at least.
technically, the daughter may have a right to enojyment of the bush, if that's denied her, her claim is against her landlord.
IMO she's got a right for the neighbours not to **** her around, so she should report it.
enjoyment of the bush
praise the lord
Are you sure this is nothing to do with trouts daughter? It's trespass on her property with her consent. The same as a landlord cant access property with prior notification? Landlord or tenant I would be f***ing fuming if a neighbour came into my property and would go around and kindly ask them to not step onto my property without permission. In terms of proceedings betond this though if not the daughters tree it would be down to the landlord to resolve
maybe they cut it down so they can finish putting up and painting the fence, and then they're going to replace it, you know, seeing as they have an MBE and all.
Can you be stripped of an MBE for murdering a small conifer?
there is the possibility that they leant over to cut it, and pulled the cuttings over..
be sure to let us know how the riddle ends Trout
is the rose there as a poignant tribute?
looks like a pretty tidy garden corner. Is this seriously what you have to gripe about?? I really don't believe some of the stuff on here.
How about if she planted the bush, in the ground that she rented, is it anything to do with her then?
No I believe that they have no issue with the garden being tidy Kevevs - what gives you that impression ?
The issue, which I would have thought was fairly easy to understand, is that some of the property which the OP's daughter rents has apparently been destroyed by her neighbour. HTH
And no, he's not asking your opinion on whether you think conifers are nice or not.
ahh, so what, worse things happen.
ahh, so what, worse things happen.
Well if you haven't got a problem with it then why are you commenting ?
Get on with your life and don't worry about it.
ok 🙂
How about if she planted the bush, in the ground that she rented, is it anything to do with her then?
If she had permission to plant? mebbe.
But again, I can only see trespassing as the tennants leverage, not damage to landlords property.
Speak to the neighbour and get their point of view, then unleash if still warranted.
Perhaps the neighbour can ask to use her toilet and whilst in there hack off some of the wall tiles, if they take a fancy to them. After all they're not her wall tiles - she only rents them.
If the garden is part of her lease then the trees, bushes, paving slabs, etc, are there for her enjoyment.
competitively tidying up your landlords patch is a downward spiral. Don't even bother starting imo.
She can still enjoy them. In fact she can even take them inside to enjoy them more now.
Don't blame them - conifers are just growing problem and the roots will probably damaging the stone wall.