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I thought we were discussing right and wrong not just what they do. One would assume MPS have access to material that we may not wish to be in the public domain ranging from security classified /private to politically sensitive.
Stunning she would be so blase about this and its scary she would openly "brag" about it.
Nobody sensible is suggesting that accessing porn whilst either being in work, or being a paid representative of the electorate is acceptable, I’m just pointing out that there’s next to nothing that can be done about it in this context.
Nadine Dorris just confirms my suspicions over the way MPs operate, and I’ve heard similar anecdotal stories about MLAs.. they’re mostly on another planet
Did all this stuff happen back in 2008?
I think a lot of people are viewing it in the context of nowadays when there are a zillion different "tube" sites for porn. How were people consuming porn back in 2008? I'm assuming if there's a lot of "downloaded" stuff, would it have been from p2p networks or something along those lines?
@jonnyboi, I’m assuming it was a laptop, given how much travelling MPs do.
Right then.
Monday tomorrow, so the story picks up again. Every hour this goes on for is damaging to 'our' shambolic government.
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Resigned - from the Cabinet. Still an MP.
He's spending more time with his laptop.
Ha!
Diddums.
I am going to start accusing posters of doing that - its polite for lied isnt it ?"inaccurate and misleading" statements
Lol.
He's spanked his last cabinet monkey
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42434802
Squeezing in 1 last shambles before Xmas, still time for more tho
Mr Green said he accepted statements he made about what he knew about the pornography investigation could have been "clearer", conceding his lawyers had been informed about the original discovery in 2008 and the police had raised the matter within him in a phone call in 2013.
"I apologise that my statements were misleading on this point," he said. "
W@nker. Literally.
Now we've established that he's just a big fat [s]liar[/s] purveyor of misleading statements, in respect of the denials of having made inappropriate advances to a researcher......
although there were "competing and contradictory accounts of what were private meetings" between himself and Ms Maltby, "the investigation found Ms Maltby's account to be plausible".
Ha!
Moar Tory handwringing 😆
You have to love this government (small G, natch)
To lose one minister may be regarded as a misfortune; to lose two looks like carelessness.
Three looks...?
Strong and stable?
Now for it to come out that he was pushed rather than resigned...... then we can hold DD's feet to the fire over his threat to resign if Green was sacked.
It's starting to look a lot like..... well..... Christmas, I suppose.
So does this make it more likely Bob Quick will carry out his threat to sue Green?
Davis this is the escape route you've been looking for!
Green maintains in writing in his resignation letter he wasn’t looking at porn on his work computer. I think the issue is he wasn’t clear that the police had asked him about it. If what he wrote in his letter isn’t true then someone will take him up on that obviously.
No reason to resign as an MP hence he has not. Ministerial code is far stricter.
It's hard work defending this shower of shitehawks, but it's great to see that some can stoop to the task.
I can't quite believe Davis is still in a job given how much he's mislead parliament in the last few weeks. Of course, he now has a chance to go. Unless "asked to resign" is different from being sacked?
Green, Patel, Fallon...all gone in disgrace. Awesome. 😀
Seems May asked Green to resign
Will Davis be as good as his word?
Hahaha just kidding DD has been exposed as a champion bullshitter so often lately it's not even vaguely likely he'd keep his word on this
As someone else said - if it wasn't him then who else was accessing porn on his computer while he was mid-email?
And having established that he 'gave misleading statements' about whether he knew of the porn on his computer, do we really give any credibility now to his 'there isn't any.... OK there is, but it isn't mine' claims. Or will they also turn out to be misleading?
Quack quack.....
In the age of Brexit misleading the public/parliament is pretty much standard government policy
DD has been exposed as a champion bullshitter
Maybe, but he's hardly the worst on here.
Maybe, but he's hardly the worst on here.
Indeed, there are bizzies on here after all. 🙂
Touché!
Watched an interview some weeks ago with the retired officer. The interview took place in what appeared to be his home. Wherehe was flicking through paper notes he took during the initial investigation.
Thing is, if he has evidence then why would he have this at home, or copies at home ? should this not be the property of the Crown ? Not something you have on the bookshelf...
Touché!
😉
Seems May asked Green to resignWill Davis be as good as his word?
Green resigned not sacked, Davies is of the hook, how can you think it would be any other way.
Davies knows he's going, he'll just steer the unpopular Brexit ship on to a sandbank and pretend nothing more can be done. No one else really wants control of the tiller.
It's right that he was sacked/resign from the cabinet just a pity it took so long.And he should stand down as an MP but that isn't going to happen.What's also wrong is that he has kept his well paid job for almost a decade since this was discovered and he got promoted.Leaving him time to go on and indecently assault someone and send offensive texts whilst in his position of power.Wrong in so many ways.
Davis is so profoundly stupid that surely his political epitaph can only be ‘resigned on a matter of principle. The principle of his mate to **** himself cross-eyed while at work’
It’d be a suitably fitting way for the ‘thick as mince’ vainglorious twerp to go
I’m sticking a tenner on a GE before May (as in the month before June, not her)
Iain Drunken Smith when asked about DD's statement that he would resign if Green was sacked - 'he resigned, he wasn't sacked'.
'He was asked to resign which is effectively the same as being sacked'.
'I don't know all of the facts; you should ask DD about his intentions'.
Complete bunch of tossers.
What did TM do to deserve the torrent of shit she is swimming against?
BBC is reporting sacked
The Guardian headline says sacked too.
Bye bye Dave. It’s been emotional
Or maybe not. Seeing as this bunch of posturing shysters seem to exist purely for their own self-advancement, and ‘principles’ seem to be some sort of abstract, throw-away concept.
Until the last few years I never imagined that British politics could end up as this much of a circus. It makes the fag end of John Majors government look like the model of competence and stability
And stil she clings on
When DD said he would resign he meant get sacked, in the same way that greene resigned and was certainly or sacked or told he was no longer welcome. You know it's just different, also did he say one thing when he was in a different place so it didn't really count.
Mike, he was sacked and his apologists from a couple of weeks ago are notable by their absence.
Davis must stay because, if he goes, Dead Ringers will need a new character to replace the brexit bulldog.
Still find the worst part is they think its ok to tell the world they share passwords.
May appears the only competent one.
The ideal solution would be to keep her on the brexit nonsence whilst a new government fixes the numerous real problems
[quote=wilburt ]May appears the only competent one.
That is the quite incredible thing here - May's credibility goes up by the day when you compare her with those around her.
frankconway - Member
Mike, he was sacked and his apologists from a couple of weeks ago are notable by their absence.
My point was mainly that through the use of lots of words and swapping the order DD etc. will claim that what he said was not what he said and even if it was he wouldn't, probably which goes to show he is a man who should be trusted with nothing more important or responsible than ?? there is the problem I can't think of anything
It's a smear campaign
Maybe, I think many are uncomfortable about the way the info came out.
However, if they hadn't done it in the first place, hadn't lied about knowing about it, hadn't mislead parliament, hadn't been using their power to bully and abuse their staff.... need I go on....then there'd be nothing to 'smear' them about.
And smear implies made up, or at best a minor infraction being blown out of proportion. I don't find sexual harassment of a researcher minor.
Ninja edit.
It's particularly satisfying when the penalty for covering up is greater than the penalty for the initial misdemeanor.
If he'd have said something like "doesn't everyone?" It'd have all blown over.
Still, only four [s] cabinet resignations[/s] sleeps till Christmas.
[quote=BillMC ]It's a smear campaign
Doesn't he understand the use of tissues?
Once again its not the act that does for the liars - its the coverup and lies
Also intrigued about what has happened that would make this happen late last night......
Such a shame it came [u]after[/u] the last PMQ's and the PM had met with the Liaison Committee, I'm sure they'd have wanted to ask about it?
He must have been very weak and wobbly. 'The liaison committee', blimey, what else is there to come out?
All we’re really waiting for now is the news that Liar Davis has left too.
Liars, liars and more liars.
If the Tory Party were a Business, all of its MPs would have been long since sacked and face criminal prosecutions.. of course criminal prosecution isn’t just for those that can’t hide behind the cloak of the old boys network, it’s also for those that continue to hide behind it.
I'm surprised that they can access porn on .Gov computers. Out ones at work block porn and social media. Maybe they just need to install a program to control this kind of thing. He won't have been the only one.
I'm surprised that they can access porn on .Gov computers. Out ones at work block porn and social media.
I think it's generally a good thing that MPs can access anything they want on their computers. Look at the mess ISP filtering is making of trying to restrict access to what their algorithms have decided is undesirable.
Give credit where it is due - it is actually a pretty good bit of political machination from the Maybot.
Wait until the round of EU 'negotiations' is over, a week 'til Christmas when most people are busy/happy/preoccupied. She's played a bit of a blinder in terms of keeping him in-post until now. This resignation (sacking) would have been far more damaging 2-3 weeks ago.
The whole government/Brexit/austerity thing is still a laughable shambles, but at least she has shown she can pick her moments to push her mates off the cliff!
May appears the only competent one.
In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king.
Green is my MP. He's never, ever once rebelled against the whip, ever.
Certainly I have had reason to point out to him in correspondence with me that he has on more than occasion that he's been less than honest.
I've also asked him to justify how David Davis has not been in contempt of parliament with his mystery 'impact assessments', but as yet no reply has been forthcoming.
Or the alternative view is das Fuher has announced it now so we can all rejoice over the holidays, give the legal and political institutions time to bring cases against Davis/BlohardJo/HandinGove and give the Press some time to uncover more stories of lying to Parliament, the Public and no doubt the EU..
I say Yay and its a good time to rejoice. 😆
£17k Golden ****shake, still an MP and we all forget about the sexual assault
So David Davis will be off then too IIRC.
Hang on a bit - if Green got the boot for telling a fib, What about Boris Johnson, David Davis, Liam Fox etc. etc..
Edit - Oops, missed that PJM1974 has already covered that one.
Hang on a bit - if Green got the boot for telling a fib, What about Boris Johnson, David Davis, Liam Fox etc. etc..
Piano wire & lamp posts?
The bit of this story that isn't attracting the attention it deserves is that the Dibble used to be bezzie mates with the Tories. Particularly the Met and Thames Valley. Remember Fatcha's Home Counties stormtroopers being bussed up north to deal with 'the enemy within'?
Too many years of being cut to the bone and then being hung out to dry when things go wrong have finally come home to roost.
Now not even the police love the Tories.
That makes me smile.
A lot.
Too many years of being cut to the bone and then being hung out to dry when things go wrong have finally come home to roost.Now not even the police love the Tories.
a good mate is a senior copper and he absolutely despises May, his journey from right wing fanboy to raging lefty (well not quite) is thanks to him becoming a copper, his views on drugs, prostitution, prison etc all shifted to the left, but it was the cuts to funding, officer numbers, pensions etc under Cameron that really upset him!
I see grangier has been let off for getting his PA to buy him sex toys, now Im no prude and - full disclosure - I once got a dsiciplinary for looking at grot & dodgy stuff in work (anyone remember rotten.com ?)
I cant see that theres any official discplinary procedure, it seems to be ad hoc, suspend them for a bit then clear them later
obviously the Green thing was complicated with leaks from within the police & as always lying about it caught him out in the end
****y Old bloke looks at porn at work, and makes unwanted sexual advances to a woman.
****
I cannot think of any other work place [ sex industry perhaps?] where getting an member of staff to buy sex toys would be considered ok
You are amused by a politicised police force Danny ????
he is amused that they bit the hand that feeds them
See sometimes doing your own research leads to the wrong answer and everyone needs some guidance with their fishing 😉
[i]You are amused by a politicised police force Danny[/i]
OMG have naive are you? 😆 come on some of the marches I've been on, and watch them video people. The police have always been political.
To return to the (obviously missed) point, why would this make anyone smile? Naïveté?
DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH 😆
it's funny, 'cos the tories aren't used to having the cops do to them what they do to everyone else.
they don't come to your pub at closing time do they? they don't bust your neighbours for drugs, they don't stop you for ID on a march.
now they they've stitched up one of the tories, that's funny
Wish I had thought of that 😉
I'm not amused by an unthinking bunch of thugs obeying their political masters.
I think an independent police force,who are not controlled by their political masters would be a huge improvement for this country, see Orgreave.
Oh I see, so two wrong make [s]two wrongs[/s] a right 😯
NO you need a straw man as well 🙄
Funny does not mean right everyone knows that
No-one comes out of this looking good.
So in your opinion the police have “stitched up” Damien
Odd, I thought he had done something/several things wrong. Every days a learning day....
dannyhToo many years of being cut to the bone and then being hung out to dry when things go wrong have finally come home to roost.
Now not even the police love the Tories.
That makes me smile.
A lot.
Me too bud, me too! 😀 😀
If only you could do it quicker
teamhurtmore - Member
You are amused by a politicised police force Danny ????POSTED 1 HOUR AGO # REPORT-POST
Plonker. 😆
Junkyard - lazarus
If only you could do it quicker
Only just caught up with thread. Lol
wasnt aimed at you it was aimed at THM's learning curve ...though it would seem it would work with you too 😀