[Closed] "Cyclists, the middle classes and crackpots!"

No idea where cook keeps the chutneys and preserves?

I’m ADD/scatterbrained I do the cooking. Subsequently, I have no idea where the cook keeps the jam or Branston.

If use words like subsequently am I part of the hated class?

Keep it in the cupboard with the teabags?….You’re working class.

Keep it in the fridge as per the instructions on the bottle?….You’re middle class.

No idea where cook keeps the chutneys and preserves?…. You’re upper class.

My wife keeps the red sauce in the fridge, I can't stand the stuff and keep MY brown sauce in the cupboard as I hate cold sauce on my bacon buttie!!

I thought working class showered after work and middle class showered before work.

How very subtle and pre-social media!

Keep up though. Working classes now are either unwashed or have a tropical wet room with 4k TV, while middle classes are either fashionably dirty scroungers with rich parents or otherwise perma-washed in unicorn tears and are blow-dried by the vented heat from the flames of their meaningless social justice events.

If use words like subsequently am I part of the hated class?

Not if you use them incorrectly. Consequently, you wanted.

I think correcting grammar on the internet makes definitely me middle class.

Are you on singletrackworld.com in the middle of a working day? You're middle class.

After your shift? You're working class 😉

I’d estimate that out of the 700 odd kids at my high school, when I was there in the 80’s, in a poverty stricken post industrial shitehole of a steel town that maybe 10% of the kids ended up dead or in jail, 20% ended up long term unemployed, 40% went on to have normal “working class” type jobs and 30% went on to University or into professional “middle class” type careers.

So 30% university attendance in the 1980s. Anyone know the figures for that era? that sounds quite average - as in, not abnormally bad.

Traditional "class structure" seems out of date, (mentioned upthread about it being a victorian concept) by the nature of many jobs changing for the better.
the thinking that working class = unthinking manual labour, and working yourself to an early grave has given us the idea that anything that doesnt involve sitting down and wearing a suit is working class.
Look at the work that a shop owner or any trademan does these days. A lot of planning, thinking, finances etc.
And for those putting a salary band on class, they are raking it in. You can get £300 a day laying bricks round these parts, and you dont have to spend a decade as a hod carrier for you dad or uncle to get to that point either.

What though, to think of the new* underclass? The long term/deliberately unemployed, or underemployed, with no meaningful plans beyond the end of the week?

*the last half century, when career benefit claimant became an option.

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It doesn’t matter that they never did a day’s actual work in their lives,

If you still believe that "actual work" is getting your hands dirty then I'm guess you voted Leave and Tory in 2019.

p.s. There are some absolute tools in the that video. That "blockade" of planters with a massive gap enticing people to drive through and collect a fine is absolutely criminal.

However the need to stop the lifestyle that The Car is King and Convenience is King absolutely has to stop. Central govt has to give targets and local govt has to make the chnages that are unpopular.

I live near an estate that has been cut off with similar schemes. My convenience may suffer as I can no longer drive through, but instead I go through that estate running and cycling with the kids far more. It's a wonderful place to be and others wouls realise the benefit too if they got off their arses and out of the car and off the sofa.

If use words like subsequently am I part of the hated class?

Not if you use it (incorrectly) to begin a sentence...

Not if you use them incorrectly. Consequently, you wanted.

Brilliant! 😄

You're correct of course. My education was every part as shite as my ability to focus. ‘An education’ was discouraged at school/by peers and have been playing catchup since.

So 30% university attendance in the 1980s. Anyone know the figures for that era? that sounds quite average – as in, not abnormally bad.

It wasn't bad. If anything it was intended to demonstrate that there was a far greater ability for kids to escape their familial socio-economic boundaries than many people on this thread seem to suggest.

Of those 700 kids, i'd safely bet that way less than 10% of their parents were in the "middle class, university educated professional" bracket.

Poor style perhaps but why incorrect?

Brilliant! 😄

You’re correct of course. My education was every part as shite as my ability to focus. ‘An education’ was discouraged at school/by peers and have been playing catchup since.

Don't do yourself down, your posts are to the point and concisely written.

Mine are full of affectation and flowery language and I am a pedantic **** too. 😉

and I am a pedantic **** too. 😉

I became that when migrated from idiot-class to middle-aged. Now just need to become educated enough sufficiently-educated educated in a manner by which I might carry it off! 👍🏼

Central govt has to give targets and local govt has to make the chnages that are unpopular.

Back on topic - yes, what the UK really needs is governments that will actually do constructive things, especially now we don't have the EU to make us do stuff.

I live near an estate that has been cut off with similar schemes. My convenience may suffer as I can no longer drive through, but instead I go through that estate running and cycling with the kids far more. It’s a wonderful place to be and others wouls realise the benefit too if they got off their arses and out of the car and off the sofa.

Isnt part of the problem for those who live outside the estate and so get the benefits of increased traffic instead?
Not sure I would be overly keen on one of those zones nearby if I got the inconvenience of getting home plus twice the traffic and fumes than before. Which is where I believe some of the complaints about "middle class" comes from. Was at least one of those zones which there did seem to be a fairly convincing argument that it was around a well to do area pushing the traffic into a poorer area.

I would assume the massive gap in the planters is to allow for emergency vehicle access although it does look like the signs could do with being a tad more obvious.

30% university attendance in the 1980

I did my GCSEs in 1993 and only 30% of my year group got 5 at grade C or above. I think that just four of us went on to sixth form college to do A-levels and then on to uni.

If you still believe that “actual work” is getting your hands dirty then I’m guess you voted Leave and Tory in 2019.

In terms of Marxist theory, workers means factory workers, not office workers. I'm not a fan of Marxism, BTW.

The Car is King and Convenience is King absolutely has to stop

You may as well be claiming ‘hot water is evil, showering has to stop. The Globalists woke Jews Marxist Middle Class Cyclist Crackpots want you to be dirty so that they can rule over you make you as miserable and weird self-righteous as they are - for no reason other than they get to ‘win’’

Different words - same effect. Other words are available, again to the same effect.

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