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Easy to do?
TIA
Lots of smoke if you use a grinder!
Getting it off the bead is the hard bit.
Just set fire to it. You'll be left with one slightly blackened rim.
Take it to a tyre shop? Fiver will be better than the hassle
Getting it off the bead is the hard bit.
Plank of wood , reverse car onto plank , bead broken.
Why?
I have removed tyres with a crowbar before. Same as bike tires, just more difficult. I dislodged the bead by standing on it deflated.
I cut some tyres of an old tractor mower before weighing it in.
Makes a hell of a mess with the cutter disc on the grinder and everything gets splattered with sticky melted tyre rubber.
Bolt cutters not up to the bead?
cant see how youd get at the bead. Maybe a cold chisel and hammer
Cut the tread off, cutting through the sidewall?
cant see how youd get at the bead. Maybe a cold chisel and hammer
Deflate tyre, jump on tyre, bead moves to middle. You need big metal tyre levers to get the bead over the rim though.
Massive ballache, messy, and you'll probably damage yourself and/or the wheel. Give a tyre place some beer tokens.
Source: prior personal experience.
I've got a horse-shoe shaped tool with a long lever that works like a rim brake. Still requires patience and effort.
Gary M has just reveled he weighs more than Geoff Capes.
Massive ballache, messy, and you'll probably damage yourself and/or the wheel. Give a tyre place some beer tokens.Source: prior personal experience.
mmm I did manual tyre removal when I was at collage as part of my yts course. Now I know it was over 30 years ago but the principal remains the same.
I'm 70kg btw.
So the tyre was taken on and off regularly, Gary. And the tyre and rim were probably 165/70 13. I've had to give up on some tyres and take them to the fitter even with the correct tool.
Bolt cutters might work to cut the steal bead if you've got the tyre broken away from the bead, but they'll only handle the metal. If it's not broken away, and you can't get the bead moved, the only real option involves a grinder. I've seen it done in the process of removing totally shredded tyres where there's not been enough left to grip the sidewall to break the bead, and it isn't a nice job.
As others have said, pay somebody a few beer tokens to remove it. The hassle to do it yourself really isn't worth it.
Tyre place - no question. I once spent an afternoon swearing at the crappy cheap Chinese front tyre I had to cut off a KMX125 the previous owner had put on to pass an MOT before sale. The new one went on pretty easy but it would have been a fiver to get the old one taken off by a pro and I could have done something useful with my time.
I cut some off a set f steel rims with a hacksaw. Not that hard as I recall.
I cut one off once, never will again.
Break bead as per Trail rat then use crowbars as levers is my method.
Also, if a low profile you'll struggle even more. Acquired son 17" alloys complete with tyres a few years ago, tyres were worn but thought. I'll weigh the wheels in "I'll have them tyres off in a jiffy" about 2 hours for the first tire. The other 3 are still behind the garage.
when I was at collage
Did you use a lot of glue.
Looking at online vids it seems breaking the bead will be the issue, but I have a car jack!
Might give it a go...the car's off the road just now so it's a good time to get new tyres and DIY refurb the wheels - and taking them for the wheel fitting is a PITA so saving a trip to get them removed saves a ballache.
Thanks all, esp the spoon joker 🙂
How serious a wheel refurb are you doing? I've repainted wheels with the tyre on with some masking tape and card to protect the tyre before.
Same as above, wire brush attachment in drill? Then paint? Leave the tyres on
I have done this in the past..
I tried cutting with a grinder.. lots of smoke and mess.. i gave up..
also tried using some crowbars as tyre levers.. they worked.. eventually..!! but it took a long time and a lot of energy..
a bit of a breakthrough moment came when i used plenty of grease
on the tyre bead and the edge of the rim.. it made levering it over a LOT easier as the bead had a tendency to REALLY grip the rim when it was nice and tight..
breaking the bead was relatively easy.. deflated the tyre then stood on it..
would i do it again? nope not a chance!!! I'd take it to a tyre place and pay the fitter to take them off..
Cutting off with a grinder is fairly easy, but wear decent gloves - it will spray meted rubber up your arm and it hurts/smells/doesn't come off easily
Heh. I quite like learning the hard way sometimes 😛
I want to make a decent job, bought 2 pack lacquer, and a few gouges to fill/or grind out (yes, I am thinking of using the jacked up car as a lathe!)
i have a tyre machine if you are anywhere near essex
Ta, I was last week! Back to Edinburgh now
applauds and presents danger awardyes, I am thinking of using the jacked up car as a lathe!
Breaking the bead is the easy bit. Wheel off and spare on, wheel flat on ground with a fencepost on the tyre, drive car onto fencepost.
yes, I am thinking of using the jacked up car as a lathe!applauds and presents danger award
Brilliant 🙂
Sensible head on - axle stands and big chocks (Got some 6 ton axle stands you can borrow, near Galashiels so not far from you)
Thanks but bricks or nothing 🙂
I have no spare!
I may just bail and get Hellfrauds to do it.
*gleefully has a go*
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Tried whacking the bead with a club hammer /wooden block, that bead is going nowhere 😐
Dave Starsky is going to be gutted when he finds his car up on bricks.
Take the front wheel off and lower the cars disc onto the side wall of the tyre.
Failing that take it to a fitters.
You mean move the tyre to the side so the disc pinches the sidewall?
The front tyres are brand new...
I mean with the wheel laying flat, lower the car onto the sidewall with the disc pushing down on the side wall. But then again not sure a smart car will be heavy enough.
I mentioned the front because you have drum brakes on the rear.
If you're concerned about damaging tyres you should probably take it to a man
Don't be surprised when you wake up in the morning and find the front of your car is also on bricks and your front wheels have been stolen
joefm, I see..
McMoonter...which could happen at any time, 1 wheel on bricks or not?
I do have a security nut on each wheel BTW
Oh **** it
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Well I got there, but I cannot recommend it:
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Bare feet and a chisel.
You really are a poster boy for H&S. 😆
I have a lump on a foot bone and a holed sock from a chisel incident when making the Frankenbike.
🙂
Those are not normal toes.
So I took the 2nd tyre to the fitter who loved showing me his fancy Bosch machine that removed tyres.
It was pretty awesome.
So you were simply removing them to avoid the disposal charge or was there another real reason to do it ?
Those are not normal toes.
Neandertal DNA
Those are not normal toes.
Those are the toes of an individual who brachiates.
So you were simply removing them to avoid the disposal charge or was there another real reason to do it ?
If you'd read the thread you'd know it was to avoid a trip to the tyre fitting place.
oh i got that ...but i see no reason to do it unless he was simply trying to avoid the disposal fee as im sure the next step will be to go to the tire fitting place to have his shiny new tire fitted and balanced.
Its the balancing where it all falls down
oh i got that ...but i see no reason to do it unless he was simply trying to avoid the disposal fee as im sure the next step will be to go to the tire fitting place to have his shiny new tire fitted and balanced.
Once again, if you'd read the thread he is going to re-furb the wheels before fitting new tyres. Anyway, he ended up going there anyway 🙂
