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We all agree that the current forum is rubbish and needs an update.
How about we ask Mark nicely to price up the improvements we would like and we crowd fund to get those changes implemented? There seems to be very little profit from the mag left over to help run the forum. This forum seeems to get a lot of hits and it is also apparent that lots of people on here are fairly well off, could easily afford to dish a couple of quid to improve the forum that they use so much. What sort of cost would we be looking at? 2k 4k 10k?

What changes would we like?
.I’d like to be able to upload pics. This would be ideal instead of having to use a secondary site, copy the url and paste it through. Puts loads of people off and is awkward. BUT then the site would need to have more memory and would the pics be up forever, or taken down after a time period to save money? I’m sure there’s people on here with more expertise in this area than me.
What other changes would people like and is this a totally stupid idea?


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 2:27 pm
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The only thing I'd change is the functionality to go to the last post on a mobile device, everything else works okay for me, uploading pics included.


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 2:29 pm
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We all agree that the current forum is rubbish and needs an update.

When did we agree that ?

I don't want a BikeRadar/MTBR forum, i think the simplicity of this one. I don't need to upload pics, i can use FlickR thanks.


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 2:30 pm
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Uploading pics is a doddle. I can't think of anything that would really improve STW forum. It's like a shitty pub, it's the people what count 😀


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 2:31 pm
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The ability to go to the last post in a thread that you read.

That would be nice.


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 2:32 pm
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Given the ratio of premier members to non premier members, I reckon you’d struggle to get more than about £50


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 2:33 pm
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I'm not against it, after all I pay a measly £1.50 a month for a 'P' even though I rarely, if ever look at the online mag and I've got an Ad-Blocker.

I've got the whole floor to myself in work today, if I wasn't for this place I'd be talking to plant pot.


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 2:34 pm
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We all agree that the current forum is rubbish and needs an update.

Sorry, I must have been out when you called round to canvass my opinion.


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 2:34 pm
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Do we all become MODS if we donate mwaaahhhaahhha


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 2:35 pm
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We all agree that the current forum is rubbish and needs an update.

Is that you and your cat ?

😛


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 2:35 pm
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Add a feature that stops people arguing endlessly about trivia.

And add the ability to go to the last post on a mobile device.


 
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The only problem I have with the forum is occasionally you'll get text that is very small - I think this is people not using the formatting tags correctly when quoting, someone might correct me on that.

I'm in two minds about being able to upload pics. On the one hand it's useful in a lazy kind of way but against that it requires a lot of disk space especially if people don't resize their images (but there there's plugins to automatically resize images on upload). Also it's a pain to view a picture heavy thread as the images might not get downloaded in order so the thread jumps around. See the GIFs thread for an example of just how bad this can be. There are techniques to get round this using lazy loading where you only download images as the user scrolls towards them.


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 2:37 pm
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Add a feature that stops people arguing endlessly about trifle.

Sponge fingers are best


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 2:37 pm
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I like the forum in it's current form.


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 2:37 pm
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Add a feature that stops people arguing endlessly about trifle.

De minimis non curat forum


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 2:38 pm
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*retracts previous generalisation about the forum needing improvement being a consensual agreement after forgetting momentarily about users to propensity to shout down any unclarified aspect of an OP* 😛

I thought given the popularity of the joke about the forum improvements in 2007. Perhaps I was wrong. 🙂
That aside are there other improvements you would like?


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 2:39 pm
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STW forum. It's like a shitty pub, it's the people what count

Oh, can we put that on a t-shirt? 🙂


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 2:43 pm
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[i]That aside are there other improvements you would like?[/i]

Get rid of the "http://" in the video and img box!
I'd crowd fund that: 1p.

Feel free Mark 😆


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 2:43 pm
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There seems to be very little profit from the [s]mag[/s] forum left over to help run the [s]forum[/s] mag

FTFY.

A more effective search function might be nice, as would the ability embed Instagram pics.

Not putting my hand in my pocket though.

🙂


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 2:43 pm
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Did something happen to the site on mobile?

It doesn't fit on the screen any more on my S6. I have to scroll right to see the 'last post' column. Anyone else?


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 2:44 pm
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Being able to view a thread in "threaded format", i.e. seeing what a post is replying to. See the forums on UKClimbing on a neat way to do this. Basically you can either reply to a post or to the thread. If you do the former then there's a link along the lines of "In reply to ..." next to the poster's name.

A spell checker would be nice 😉

@cha****ng, surely that's to do with Instagram not this site (unless there's a restriction on embedding images from there)?


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 2:45 pm
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OMG the SEARCH! It's so crap a link to Google would be more worthwhile 🙂


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 2:45 pm
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Photo hosting would be nice, but I can live without it.

I thought given the popularity of the joke about the forum improvements in 2007. Perhaps I was wrong.
I think that joke harks back to when the server the forum was hosted on was powered by Hamsters and we all de-camped to Mlehworld every time it went down.

TBH if you tried to set up a splitter forum with more sub forums and less moderation, it would probably look like Mleh.


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 2:46 pm
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We've no plans to build in image hosting right now. It adds a level of responsibility that I just don;t want to deal with right now. We'd have to get you all to agree to new t&c's to try and cover ourselves when someone uploads something wrong. Hotlinking images gives us a level of distance that makes things easier to deal with. Maybe we'll bring in the ability as part of the premier features.. Dunno.. it's just not on the radar at the moment.


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 2:51 pm
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The only thing I'd change is the functionality to go to the last post on a mobile device
That's the only thing that bothers me. The rest is just fine as it is

well, maybe I'd like to be able to zoom in on images on a mobile device but it really doesn't impinge on my life much.


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 2:54 pm
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[b]Mark[/b]: http://postimages.org which many of us already use allows you to integrate it into an existing forum. They continue to host the images. The only difference, as I understand it, is that the result is much easier for your users.

See http://postimages.org/plugins


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 2:55 pm
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Crowd funding?

Do they need new Maseratis already!? 😀


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 2:59 pm
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I like this forum, it's easier to use and more active than most. I used to be on bikeradar all of my 'working' day, but when they decided they needed a separate sub forum for every new question it got boring and I drifted over here, it's loads better.

I think the pic linking is good enough too, it would have been even better if photobucket hadn't been dicks.


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 3:05 pm
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I'd be happy with defaulting to chat forum when you create a new topic.

Infact just sack off the bike forum.


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 3:07 pm
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We all agree that the current forum is rubbish and needs an update.

No we don't.

If it's ever changed, it will ruin everything, trust me.


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 3:08 pm
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Apart from the search function everything is brilliant

oh and dezb+1p


 
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Only thing I'd add is

[i]UserName [/i]- [i]Member [/i]- [u][b]Quote[/b][/u]

And make it autofill the reply box.

Other than that it's fine(long as you're on the ad free version), for images, imgur is easy, even creates the link for you to post, and even lets you see how many times an image has been viewed.


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 3:14 pm
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vimeo links dont work

other than that

meh

We all agree that the current forum is rubbish and needs an update.
No we don't.

If it's ever changed, it will ruin everything, trust me.

but either way it sounds like we need a referendum on this


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 3:14 pm
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Another vote for the status quo - occasionally a post request times out so I don't know - more hamsters?

[img] [/img]


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 3:14 pm
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front page poll?


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 3:15 pm
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No we don't.

If it's ever changed, it will ruin everything, trust me.

Agree 100% - seen it too many times before. Change it if you want to send everyone to facebook groups.


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 3:15 pm
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The only thing I'd change is the functionality to go to the last post on a mobile device, everything else works okay for me, uploading pics included

This +1


 
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TLDR, but, I think its Ok myself, simple is best. This is possibly the most active forum I know of, and I think tis because there is none of the breakdown of categories etc, you just drop your question, opinion, or whatever into the pool and see what comes out. Its more like real life.
It isn't broke, don't fix it.


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 3:16 pm
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I like it as it is. The last post thing doesn’t even bother me. Open thread click on last page 🙂


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 3:21 pm
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[i]Infact just sack off the bike forum[/i]

Eh? Where would you go after you've read all the chat forum, whizzed through the Wanted and read the For Sales?


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 3:21 pm
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Change the colour scheme to beige and maroon!

Beyond that, I like it.


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 3:21 pm
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Take the Singletrack Logo off the menu bar when you reduce the window size and it defaults to the mobile view.

I already know which site it is and it makes stealth browsing at work problematic if you can read the title form across the room.


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 3:27 pm
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Bring back anonymous posting - that was great fun back in the day! 🙂


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 3:35 pm
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I’d like to be able to upload pics

Ling managed to upload pictures within hours of becoming a member! Maybe take the time to learn also?

I like the forum as it is, please don't change it!


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 3:40 pm
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Pleaeeeeeeeasssseeeee don't make the Forum moar complicated...

BeJezuz it's hard enough typing a coherent sentence for a thread for it to get derailed within a nano second due to the OP's incompetence or being drunk, or both.
As for posting Pics, I'm happy with the current set up, whilst it's a bit disjointed it does offer both the User and the Owners an opportunity to view the image First and possibly contemplate wether to Post it or not (as the case maybe)

Two verticals, Bike and Chat is enough.

If we're crowd funding then can I suggest we all assist the Owners with a small denomination to get someone to sit in the office over the weekend to fight the barrage of Ads and Redirects that occur when "no one is at home"

HTH's


 
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There are only two things I'd change. The first one being 'go to newest post' as many have mentioned above. I've got scroller's thumb.

The second thing is minor, but why for the love of god do we need a description on the overview page under each forum telling us what it is? I think it's fairly obvious! Look how much bloomin' room it takes up on my phone screen!

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*takes deep breath*


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 3:43 pm
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And can we have the combined view back? Or maybe tick boxes/radio buttons so you can opt to see the FS and WTD posts in the main forum.


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 3:49 pm
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on desktop don't zoom text when window small


 
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on desktop don't zoom text when window small

Yes! Makes me look like a right old lady!


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 4:01 pm
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[paranoid mode]

The new forum is coming 18th May 2018. Thats GDPR day, so on the 17th this one will cease to exist and al data will be erased. We'll have to re-register with the new forum ticking a "consent" button along the way.

[/paranoid mode]


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 4:04 pm
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how old are you Wallop? if the hat fits.... 😛


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 4:04 pm
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It would be better for my well being if I could delete any brexit thread.


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 4:06 pm
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I'm not paying a penny because I got banned (unfairly in my opinion) for 48 hours once. 😆


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 4:09 pm
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i'd like sub forums

and avatars.


 
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I'd hide this bit when you scroll down.

Because it's permanently burned itself into my mobile screen.

I do not spend to much time lurking, no sir-ee Bob.


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 4:16 pm
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Can we crowd fund a group of former KGB mercenaries to hunt down and murder to death people who instead of answering the question asked, answer a question they want to be asked. Premium members get 24 hours notice to tell their families they love them and start running.

eg.

Q. Do you grease a press fit BB.
A. You should have bought a bike with a hollowtech BB .


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 4:18 pm
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The forum would be empty in 25 hours


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 4:19 pm
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Two verticals, Bike and Chat is enough.

Needs more leverage


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 4:27 pm
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I'd pay (very) good money to transfer my forum from its current host to the singletrack forum software (different branding, obv).

Probably only take a whizzkid a weekend (I wish), 18,000 members, 35,000 posts and no facility to download the database 🙁


 
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Jekkyl, I'm 37. Not old 😆


 
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...That aside are there other improvements you would like?

The invitations to the Super Premier members outing in Teneriffe should be put out earlier.

I know we get our First Class fares paid and all accomm etc, but I couldn't go this year because of other business arrangements.

I'm sure I'm not the only one inconvenienced like this. At least a month's notice.

Oh, and I think our P should be a different colour from ordinary P members. How about golden yellow P?


 
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We've no plans to build in image hosting right now. It adds a level of responsibility that I just don;t want to deal with right now. We'd have to get you all to agree to new t&c's to try and cover ourselves when someone uploads something wrong. Hotlinking images gives us a level of distance that makes things easier to deal with. Maybe we'll bring in the ability as part of the premier features.. Dunno.. it's just not on the radar at the moment

I can totally understand this from the STW POV, but I also feel the same from a personal POV.

If I upload a photo to a forum and then later want it removed, that's not easily possible (doubly so with the current STW edit window). Hosting externally and linking allows me a level of control over the persistence of the images I post, so I for one am not bothered about image uploads as I wouldn't use the feature anyway.


 
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Take the Singletrack Logo off the menu bar when you reduce the window size and it defaults to the mobile view.

I already know which site it is and it makes stealth browsing at work problematic if you can read the title form across the room.

This


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 4:57 pm
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They told you it was in Tenerife?
🙂

Those of us with a red 'P' went on a three week fact finding cycling tour of Nicaragua with Jeremy and Diane.

Didn't you see the notice in the Socialistrack sub forum?


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 5:14 pm
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We all agree that the current forum is rubbish and needs an update.

Was I out when the researchers called?
I, like pretty much everyone else, agree that it ain’t broke, so don’t need fixing. It’s far and away the easiest forum to navigate and use, and the only forum I’ve used regularly and consistently since 2003.


 
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The constant redirects are an unacceptable blot on an otherwise fine forum. Advertise like any normal website, not some Russian-brides, clickbait-ridden, mid 2000s, LingsCars embarrassment.

And ditch the swear filter.


 
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vimeo links dont work

Yes they do. Take out the "s" in https.


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 5:45 pm
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I'd like a button that calls Ling to the thread. Bit like lighting the bat light over Gotham


 
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I, like pretty much everyone else, agree that it ain’t broke, so don’t need fixing.

Was I out when the researchers called?


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 6:09 pm
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Yep.
For about a year, wasn't it?
🙂


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 6:13 pm
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Can we crowd fund a group of former KGB mercenaries to hunt down and murder to death people who instead of answering the question asked, answer a question they want to be asked. Premium members get 24 hours notice to tell their families they love them and start running.

I would definitely be up for funding this


 
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Nice design 'n all but a mobile friendly version or an app would be great!

This seems to be the only successful bike related forum in which people talk.
As a mobile app it could be a good social media site if it was cleaned up and all the news, buy/want and threads were on a single timeline like Instagram but you could filter it for just threads or selling for example.


 
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I've not read the whole thread but I'm sure someone else has already pointed out that we are already crowd funding the forum with clickthrough ads for Russian brides, viruses and websites offering to explain how we make £1000 a day 😉

Anyway, more functionality would make the forum easier to use, not harder and the current layout could basically be maintained. Luddites arguing that it's fine, or that no changes are needed don't internet much.

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Add a feature that stops people arguing endlessly about trivia.

Avatars would go a long way to this because people would actually remember people (and not start randomly arguing ). They needn't be flashing straps or anything. Just a small avatar to help with putting virual names to virtual "faces".


 
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I've not read the whole thread

Posting on STW implies as such. 8)


 
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One click quoting built in would be cool as would "go to last post that I read" for a thread. I think that a search box style dropdown that pops up as you type a thread title showing related threads would be quite useful too, probably need to make the actual search better first though. Oh, links at the bottom of a thread to go straight back to overview etc.. would also be neat.

Overall I think that it works well enough as is though.


 
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One click quoting built in would be cool

What is this witch craft of which you speaketh? Next shalt thou tell me thy can multi-quote??


 
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We all agree that the current forum is rubbish and needs an update

Get out of town. The forum's perfect. Have you seen other fora? Massive GIF avatars, rambling signatures, nested cocking quotes... I could go on?


 
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The forum's perfect. Have you seen other fora? Massive [b]GIF avatars[/b],

rambling signatures, nested cocking quotes
... I could go on?

All of which can be controlled.


 
Posted : 03/11/2017 6:55 pm
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it is also apparent that lots of people on here are fairly well off

I'm skint pal. Spent all my dosh on a fancy P. 😉


 
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Though I would look down the back of the sofa for spare change to move the reset button on the search page away from the search button to help my sausage fingers...
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