[Closed] crazy lightweight tent pegs

I have some from my Alpkit - like sewing needles, and totally unusable.

Why bother? It is a waste of resources and money.

1.7mm diameter?! You'd be just as effective as cutting up a kitchen whisk to.uae as tent pegs!

or use old spokes - they'll even be butted for extra weight saving 🙂

The standard Ti pegs are a comparatively meaty 5.5g and are useless on anything other than a nice lawn on top quality top soil. I've got them on my Voyager XL.

If you want some added Gnarr get these [url= http://www.cleats.co.uk/browse-by-product/tent-pegs/cl622-alloy-y-tent-peg-pack-of-6.html ]sexy blue anodised MotherFunkers[/url].
Sorry got a bit carried away there but they are really rather good, and sexy dark blue ano
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They are rubbish, like an unfolded paperclip. No one uses them, even Terra Nova don't bother with them anymore.

Liking those ElShamino & a good deal cheaper.

Supplementary question.

Those spear tent pegs like [url= https://www.alpkit.com/products/tirods ]Alpkits TiRods[/url].

How do people tie on to them ?

I'd imagine it's all about the angle you put the peg in at?

Those spear tent pegs like Alpkits TiRods.

Why would anyone buy them? At 15g per peg they are heavier than the pegs Elshamo linked to. I've got a set of those which are ace. 13g per peg. A bit big to use all round but ideal for the main guylines. Bombproof in most conditions bar sand or snow. Even in sand they would be a good starting point to be assisted by a rock or two.

Clamcleats pegs - 12mm wide Y shape, versus the Alkit 5mm wide spikes which are heavier, more expensive, and not as good. But they are titanium.

Also I think these are the ones I have, they are 15g each...

https://www.outdooraction.co.uk/camping-tent-accessories-tent-pegs-and-hammers/vango/vango-alloy-pin-pegs-18cm-x-6mm-10-pack-pd-4557.php?gclid=CKHznJORzs4CFRaNGwod3TYDiw

I just had to go and weigh my pegs around 10 grammes each which makes me feel better. Billet alloy and they actually work as well

Actually maybe these ones at 7 g - its from a lightwave tent - but my inaccurate scales made them around 10 g so maybe not
https://www.ultralightoutdoorgear.co.uk/equipment-c3/tents-shelters-c25/tent-accessories-c33/tent-pegs-c314/lightwave-flash-pegs-pack-of-5-p2742
or these ones?
https://www.ultralightoutdoorgear.co.uk/equipment-c3/tents-shelters-c25/tent-accessories-c33/tent-pegs-c314/lightwave-flash-pegs-pack-of-5-p2742

I've confused myself now

What's the difference between a set of 'heavy' pegs and a set of 'light' pegs?

...I suspect this is all getting a bit like bike weights; of little consequence in the real world which is where most of us go camping...

For me sort of significant. My tent uses 16 pegs if all pegging points are used. go from 11 g pegs to 7 g pegs and thats 64 g.

Its all incremental and I won't sacrifice comfort or security but saving weight makes a huge difference. Spending around a thousand pounds on kit for the two of us has saved us about 4 kg! light pegs is just a part of this.

We do do multiday backpacking in the highlands with this kit and carrying less you notice.

My tent needs 18 pegs. It came with steel wire pegs at 22g each = 396g

Replaced with 15g alloy pegs is 18*15 =270g. Takes my tent from 1.5kg down to sub 1.4kg so less weight trying to waggle about at the back on the saddle pack.

Note I had the lighter pegs already, not sure I would spend £30 on the same weight saving personally. But from my link above you could make the same weight saving for about £6.

My tent, sleeping bag, air bed, inflatable pilloe, drybag and straps to hold it to the bike comes in at 3.14kg all up in a 13l Alpkit bag.

I think the argument in favour of spear tent pegs is rocky ground.

But yes, heavier, more expensive, and no lateral grip in soft ground.

But still unsure how you would tie them on, some fancy knot I guess.

crikey - Member

What's the difference between a set of 'heavy' pegs and a set of 'light' pegs?

Couple of hundred grams, for me, that's worth saving unless you're car camping.

(my bad weather tent does need a shitload of pegs, to be fair)

Alpkit ti kes are very good.

Their ti wires are terrible

I have some carbon pencil ones that are even worse.

All very light though.

Again, I'm of the opinion that it's only significant when you weigh it and see the numbers. In the real world (wherewedoallofourcamping) I suspect that even a weight difference of 2 or 3 kgs from an all up weight of 70-80-90 kgs is not actually a handicap.

Maybe I'm not as acutely aware of weight as others?

Weight off the bike is a big difference when bike packing .

Bike handles much better opens up trails that would be off limits before.

Last guy I rode with had a Fargo and a light weight 500 quid tent. All up his bike weighed 60lbs with gear on.

Mines was 34lbs packed to go - ti 29er with a tarp an bivvy. Made a huge difference on climbs

crikey - Member

I suspect that even a weight difference of 2 or 3 kgs from an all up weight of 70-80-90 kgs is not actually a handicap.

When you're lifting or maneuvering a bike or pack you're not shifting 70, 80 or 90kg of weight, you're using your 70kg or whatever to move 10-15kg. Even if you don't feel it constantly, that difference is always there, everything takes a little more effort and a little more energy.

I'd still be surprised if I could tell the difference between a rucsac that weighs 3-4-5 kgs more.

My standard overnight full wild camp rucsac weighs a fair bit, but the added comfort and load carrying ability makes the weight difference inconsequential.

Interesting...

Yeah but rucksacks suck for riding yer bike.

Yeah. I was thinking about walking rather than riding.

Try hikingtrackworld 🙂

Crikey. Over a couple of years I shaved 3 kg off my kit mainly by incremental gains with no loss of comfort or durability. I assure you I notice it. Thats 1/4 of my total pack weight before food. this is for multiday trekking in the highlands often on rough ground without tracks

I'd still be surprised if I could tell the difference between a rucsac that weighs 3-4-5 kgs more.

Given a pack which only weighs ~5kg in the first place I'm sure I could tell the difference. That's about what my pack weighed for MMs and Polaris - with carbon fibre pegs I'm sure weigh less than 1g and did work. A pack that light does work for riding your bike.

ISTM there's a lot of obsession with ti for lightweight bits even when it's fundamentally the wrong material. An aluminium peg the same weight would be wider and hence stiffer.

I think I'll stick with 8g Easton pegs that seem to work well enough.

wwaswas - Member
or use old spokes - they'll even be butted for extra weight saving

That gives me an idea:

Pitch up, remove a few spokes from your wheels and use them as tent pegs. When you are done refit back to your wheels and off you go. 0g

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Brilliant. You could also not bother carrying a tent pole and simply unbolt your handlebars.

I've seen tents that use the front of your bike as the primary pole. Neat idea.

Neat idea, shit tents.

I've seen tents that use the front of your bike as the primary pole. Neat idea.

Topeak did one, didn't they? Basically a glorified bivy bag with the bike propping up one end.

Bike handles much better opens up trails that would be off limits before

Brilliant! "Sorry guys, we have to take the quarter mile detour, I'm 2.7kg too heavy to ride that trail"...

well for me bikepacking is about having a bike as close to the weight of my normal bike as possible so that it rides like a normal bike and not like a piece of shit with random bags loaded with crap stuck to it for that one time they went into the woods 3 miles from their house.

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for that one time they went into the woods 3 miles from their house.

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These three rode over 19,000 miles around the World, 120 years ago, on single-speed bikes. I don't think they had titanium tent pegs.

These three rode over 19,000 miles around the World, 120 years ago, on single-speed bikes

Bloody hipsters 😆

What's the book? Is it a good read?

"Round The World On A Wheel" by J Foster Fraser.

It's brilliant, in a Boy's Own way. Things like "the natives were blocking our path, but we produced our revolvers and explained we were Englishmen, so they let us go on our way" 😀

My one and only experience with light weight pegs was getting up half a dozen times during the night to search for the pegs that'd come out then straighten them and jam them back into the ground as far as possible and find a rock to put on top of them. I used trees and sticks to make up the shortfall on nights 2 through 5. Started the tour with something like 16 pegs finished with 2 or 3.

My "sub xxx gram tent" was a bit of a let down.

It went up fine in my mates garden (night zero) but we all slept in the house.

and the invention of gears and light weight kit allowed mike hall to do it in 91 days.....

not saying it cant be done carrying a heap of kit but its alot more enjoyable with light kit 😉

MAkes the bike much more fun when going up and down the mountains by the non road path.

Lightest not always best though ill agree with that - ill never take something just because its the lightest - it always get a test close to home where its not a disaster if it doesnt work.

https://www.alpkit.com/products/tikes/

I like those ones.

https://www.alpkit.com/products/tipins

those are pish

http://www.bearbonesbikepacking.co.uk/shop/?product=carbon-pencil-pegs

Are good if the ground conditions are right they dont like soft ground and they dont like too much tension so aint ideal for tarp where you want to tension the sheet.