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So the village has slowly grown a small group who get meet up and slowly pick up the litter from and area.
We found out to day the tip/ waste disposal yard has been told not to accept waste from litter pickers.
This does seem a bit odd, anyone else know of this.
Yes, we had this too.
Collected about 500kg from around Loch Tay via DofE residential group in canoes. Stirling council refused to collect via bin collection, or thier own litter pickers or accept it at tip.
We paid for a skip each year after that.
Dump it outside council offices
A few things to note, it will be classed as trade waste, eg waste not produced by a household, you will also need a waste carriers licence, from the environment agency and relevant paperwork and also have pay to dump it,by weight, quite expensive, also your vehicle will need to be insured for buisness use to carry waste.
Find out who runs the tip site contractors for the council or the local council, if the local council or waste disposal authority, ask them for permission, contractors are a bit more difficult, as they need to do everything properley.
Picture in local press with story about council refusing help from civic minded locals?
Litter pickers collect in heavy duty black bin bags and dump 1 each in normal household bin?
Drive to tip and don't tell them it's the litter group? I regularly (every month or two) dump a few black rubbish bags at the local tip when the once a fortnight collection isn't enough. No problems.
You could always ask a local skip company to donate a skip for some publicity in the local rag?
Oh interesting. The people at the tip were nice about it. I think the tactic is little and often not big collections.
E.g Mrs goes for a walk and takes a bag and the picker, it just gets added to our bin.
Involve the local press next time before you start .
As someone who works for a council. We actively help organisations to carry out litter picks supplying pickers and bags. We can arrange uplift. It's great for us because these picks generally go into areas that we don't have the resources to carry out.
Disappointed that some replies say go to the press, it doesn't bother managers but does hack off the guys on the frontline. Maybe worth finding out a contact in the local cleansing department and asking beforehand.
Which council as a matter of interest? C
At which point did the waste become business waste and need business insurance for the car project. That's Havering and you know it.
Yes it's not household waste but it is in no way business use of your vehicle
Similar to ivnickkate we have had a request from a local canoe club if we can help them on a cleanup. While we are unable to help in the actual work we will supply bags/dumpy bags and a lorry to collect and dispose of the rubbish for them.
Just email the local councillors. Politely suggest that it would be good to get their support and a wagon from the team to collect all the bagged waste.
I recently cleared my attic/shed of 20 years accumulated debris and I took it up to the local tip/recycling centre but as I had been up n’ down for the previous few days with stuff they decided I was a commercial enterprise and wouldn’t allow me access despite my protestations (dads old transit van) so I kicked up a fuss outside the council offices ( started to empty van) and eventually common sense prevailed and I got to dispose of stuff. Some folk are complete jobsworth/dicks
Some folk are complete jobsworth/dicks
And some folk have a responsibility to check trade waste is paid for by the company that is uplifting it for profit. Every tonne of rubbish that goes into the ground costs the council money. By checking the system isn't exploited they are protecting the public pound. You rock up in a transit with loads of waste, what are they to think....?
In Shetland we have 'redd ups' where people litter pick beaches, roadsides and other places. The big annual one is tbe voar redd up (spring clean up) where Schools and community groups do their own particular areas. It has big support from the local amenity trust and council with bags provided and waste collected from the roadside and taken away.
The idea has got so popular that many people do their own thing all year and leave the bags or piles of bruck at the roadside and it gets collected eventually.
Pretty sure there is a "keep Britain tidy" litter pick week which I've done canoe club river clean ups as part of. Pretty sure this has got us a free skip from the council. If you can link your litter picks in to this maybe you can get a free council skip that way.
Just chuck the bags in North Lanarkshire, thats what South Lanarkshire council do!
Or chuck it in the nearest watercourse and the local river fairies will come along and take it away.
Just chuck the bags in North Lanarkshire, thats what South Lanarkshire council do!
I believe that is filed under 'regeneration'.
As someone who works for a council. We actively help organisations to carry out litter picks supplying pickers and bags. We can arrange uplift. It’s great for us because these picks generally go into areas that we don’t have the resources to carry out.
Disappointed that some replies say go to the press, it doesn’t bother managers but does hack off the guys on the frontline.
....hacks off guys on the frontline....presumably they get some sort of mixed message which is a management problem? if the front line guys are telling people doing good things in the community "go away" rather than there is a way to arrange uplift then there is something wrong surely...
had similar at local tip a few years ago - too many garden waste trips - fair enough asking...my explanation..."I have a large garden, the ageing mother in law has a large garden, I do the garden for a friend who has MS and I cut the grass and hedges at the Community Centre..."
"well if you cut the grass at the community centre that'll be commercial then"
meanwhile the lanes are full fly tipped crap
Civic Pride in rawtenstall have an agreement that litter picked waste that's collected in green or pink bags and deposited next to litter bins is collected by the council litter bin van on his rounds
Speak to the council. The one I'm involved with has an agreement whereby, like the above, the bags from a litter pick are left in a specific place and are then collected by contractors.
Thanks for the replies, like i said the guys at the tip were good about it "dont tell us were it's from" kind of thing. I was just supprised at what they had been told.
One out come of the group picking was some going to the local shop to discuss the selling of own brand monster to school kids (a lot of empty cans near the bus stop i think).
And some folk have a responsibility to check trade waste is paid for by the company that is uplifting it for profit.
No need to worry, seemingly everyone collecting waste for profit but not wanting to pay are just ditching stuff long country lanes. Cheaper for everyone involved.
One out come of the group picking was some going to the local shop to discuss the selling of own brand monster to school kids (a lot of empty cans near the bus stop i think).
..didn't know that law actually happened - live and learn
...vaguely recall a shop near a local secondary getting some bad press for insisting kids showed ID and they then wrote their name on the packaging with a big marker to discourage littering - think it got labelled as the sort of thing we fought a war to stop/invasion of rights/eu fingerpoking etc etc
Also a fellow tradesman got pulled a few years ago , and told he needed a waste carriers licence for a few bricks in the back of his van, 250 quid if i remember correctly for the licence, plus a fine.
As i said previously talk to the waste collection department at council or private contractor who run the tip site.
But nice people are going out and public spiritedly clearing waste.
Remind me again where the op said he was a trader - commercial enterprise or hell even using a van to go to the tip.
He did not say he used commercial waste bags either.
Similarly that dude that said mcmoonter needed a waste carriers license for transporting his own non commercial rubble between 2 sites he owns.
It's. A bit like tacograph rules. People really don't understand them. But someone's mother's uncles brother got done for being over 3500kg but the part where they actually broke the law by doing it for hire or reward is never told.
whats a commercial waste bag then, all depends on how the people interpret the waste being carried and disposed of, fly tipping of trade waste is a huge problem.
A local tip i dont use, but my customers use for their own household stuff, get stopped at entry and are asked to declare its their own waste, and not from any trades person, trade or occupation if they answer yes, theyre refused entry.
Theyre also not allowed to carry stuff in, from the road to avoid the queues, as the ANPR cameras need to record a reg number to check how many times they visit.
Finally all vans, and large trailers on cars require a permit to go on the tip sites around here, your van is inspected,you declare its your own stuff,and youre allowed to tip,what you take is also marked down on the permit along with date,and only so many trips allowed per year.
To be fair Ive never heard of them either but in your link the chap had his waste in one so it says.
I get the distinct impression that local councils find the fact that they have to provide a service incredibly inconvenient. Shit like this just means that in future no one will help with litter picking.
Couple that with a computer-says-no attitude, chronic laziness and a petty attitude towards the little things and it’s no wonder people resent both the employees and the idea of paying their council tax.
I’d be dumping the bags in the council reception and legging it.
Round here, you have to contact the council and they give you special pink bags which then get collected as normal I think.
Round here standard practice is to dump waste in a layby or field entrance then set it on fire.
I get the distinct impression that local councils find the fact that they have to provide a service incredibly inconvenient.
Not in South Leics - the council provide bags, gloves, those grabber things like pliers an broom handles and hi viz vests - and then collect all the full bags after the litter pick.
However, they do make it clear that the full bags have to be collected (free) by their team - we can't take them to the local recycling centre.
Councils use coloured bags with their name on so they can record how much waste they collect as its weighed in at the disposal site, totally seperate from the public waste site. If they collected black bags available to the general public their workload would go up, as well as the cost of disposal.
Now imagine you run a waste tip site for the public, you have limited space,for spare skip storage,also the skips cost quite a bit, you then need drivers to pick up and deliver waste skips to the disposal site,along with trucks,a truck will also be needed to shunt empty skips, then add in the cost of the disposal, wether by recycling,incineration, or land fill.
Now that free service to council tax payers gets quite expensive, so anything that can be done to control, waste is good for all.