[Closed] Cost of a life? Surprisingly low?

The Cases you are referring to are relatively old, new sentencing guidelines were brought in, in 2018. The fines are now based on company turnover, and are dependent on whether the defendant pleads Guilty or decides to defend themselves. Lots more details are available online.

https://www.shponline.co.uk/legislation-and-guidance/how-are-sentencing-guidelines-determined/

Well, if in the Vinci/Bromley case a height restriction barrier was installed with the intent of killing people, and the court fined them 18k a pop Each time they killed someone, your interpretation would be correct.
But I suspect, and I’m not an expert, that a height restriction barrier is not intended for that. Clearly there’s a risk someone could be injured. So did the owner undertake all the responsibilities in signage, visibility, assessing and addressing any other hazards the barrier could present? Presumably the court found some failure there that they found justified an 18k fine. The fact someone died was unfortunate.

Thought the lowest was cost of repair to the bumper on a transit van.

I'm sure I once heard that the sum of the chemical parts of the human body was about £15.

When I used to deal with motor claims it was cheaper to kill someone than leave them needing a lifetime of care....🤷‍♂️

Not the same as criminal fines, obviously.

The Cardiff accident was a swing barrier, that had not been secured and swung into the road due to the wind, the barrier penetrated the passenger side of the windscreen and struck the driver. Asda were found negligent for leaving the swing barrier unlocked, and had also had previous incidents with the same barriers.

Presumably the £18k one was a cyclist.

Presumably the £18k one was a cyclist.

I doubt it...there would probably be insufficient evidence to prosecute...and maybe a coroner's report suggesting cyclists wear armour would fix things

How else do you propose to put a stop to lengthy and ruinous Blood Feuds other than with a well established Weregild?

There was chap who was car doored whilst riding along in that London a couple of years ago, the impact launched him under an oncoming van, killing him.

£250 fine.

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There was chap who was car doored whilst riding along in that London a couple of years ago, the impact launched him under an oncoming van, killing him.

£250 fine.

Here in North Vancouver, someone opened a car door into the path of a cyclist as a huge truck was passing him. Luckily,he swerved to avoid the truck and the door. Unfortunately, his buddy who was riding directly behind him was also forced to swerve - sadly, he swerved straight under the wheels of the truck - you can imagine the result...

The car driver was fined CDN$80, which is about £45...

Further to above posting, here's a shocking linkFined $81 for killing a cyclist

At least they've quadrupled the fine since then...

Further to above posting, here’s a shocking linkFined $81 for killing a cyclist

At least they’ve quadrupled the fine since then…

The driver, Timothy Colwell, pleaded not guilty to one charge of unsafely opening the door of a vehicle. If found guilty, he will only be subject to the $81 fine that was in place at the time of the incident. He is due back in court in November.

^that **** didn't even want pay the $81!!!

There was chap who was car doored whilst riding along in that London a couple of years ago, the impact launched him under an oncoming van, killing him.
£250 fine.

Maybe Leicester, London Road, outside the Railway station? He was a friend of the family. Taxi passenger opened the offside door, knocked him over, then the van in the next lane ran over him, and just drove off. The Driver of the Taxi was fined around £1200. The passenger who opened the door was fined £150. The van driver was traced, was found to be 3 times over the drink drive limit, got a 6 months suspended sentence and a 28 month driving ban.

Fines are partly determined by ability to pay. So if an overloaded shelf in Asda collapses and kills you the fine might be £200k, same thing happens in Bob's convenience shop the fine might be £2k.

Compensation however, which will be paid by the liability insurance should be pretty much the same in both cases but is not usually made public.

Well, if in the Vinci/Bromley case a height restriction barrier was installed with the intent of killing people, and the court fined them 18k a pop Each time they killed someone, your interpretation would be correct.
But I suspect, and I’m not an expert, that a height restriction barrier is not intended for that. Clearly there’s a risk someone could be injured. So did the owner undertake all the responsibilities in signage, visibility, assessing and addressing any other hazards the barrier could present? Presumably the court found some failure there that they found justified an 18k fine. The fact someone died was unfortunate.

I dunno about signage but it would seem making sure it can't fall on someone's head is pretty fundamental for a big steel bar placed over a road or pavement.

Instead I picture a van driving round with either secure glass pane (ala Damien in the Omen) vs a van hits a pothole and careens off or a van full of unprotected gas bottles lit my a naked flame.

One is an accident regretful etc. but a random act and the other was an accident waiting to happen??

The fact someone died was unfortunate.

In the 2nd example ?
I'm struggling to see how a height barrier could be secure and still fall on someone's head.
I suppose its possible someone drove into it? I just found the presentation by accident so I've no idea what was said in the actual presentation? I was just guessing a bit that the theme was barriers falling on people.

You may remember when this happened to me at a Morrisons car park. Car insurance paid for the write off. I got a few grand on top of that for whiplash. It was treated the exact same as a small bump. Crazy.

That's some final destination shit right there cb200...