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Seems its that time of my life now where proper dad-like ailments are coming my way.
Not content with making inexplicable noises when getting up from the sofa, and having realising I now spend too much time reading every description at a mueseum, tuesday night heralded the arrival of a new addition in the Bolton household: 2 6mm kidney stones, announcing their arrival by way of several hours of increasing pain, and then leaving me whimpering in tears on the bathroom floor in pain in a fetal position.
Off to the A&E I was shipped and long story short after several scans and prodding and poking, I was told the good news: not much we can do other than send you home to wait it out, take these horse painkillers and hopefully they'll pass. One is up in the kidney, the other down in the ureter, making its bid for freedom.
Two days on, and its still sodding painful, with the beefy painkillers wearing off occasionally and the pain notching up as it does.
Anyone else had this - what did you do to ease the pain other than meds, and how long did it take to pass? Did you do anything to ensure you didn't get them again?
PR Diclofenac is your friend. Best analgesia until you squeeze those suckers out. Did they give you tamsulosin as well? 6mm is generally seen as the limit of what will pass naturally.
I've been given diclofenac, although only 10 - 2 down, 8 left to use. They're magic. They only gave me codiene phospate, which doesn't really touch the sides (no pun intended).
I read also that 6mm was the limit, a doc mate did remark that was a punchy size to pass, so I guess I need to sit it out unless the urologist calls me back in when he's meant to follow up.
Can't these things be ultrasonically broken up ?, think I read about that somewhere 😕
I feel your pain! But wait till you get a big one that won't pass and it ends up stuck a couple of inches from freedom and you are having a pair of forceps shoved down the end to get it out! That stung a wee bit!
I've had two attacks in 10 years both lasted about 48 hours then gradually the pain went and felt fine a couple of days after that.
@cogglepin 😳 yikes!
@dyna-ti - my noddy google self diagnosis which I know doctors hate is that 6mm is on the limit of where they intervene - using said shock wave type approach. However I read that it requires admission to hospital overnight for some reason, which I guess at this current time is something they don’t want to do with such limited space and the risk of COVID transmission.
i_like_food
Full Member@cogglepin. I’m about to google ‘how to avoid kidney stones’!
Hydration mostly, passed 4 back in 2005 one was 6mm and a bit. The pain is unreal, ward sister told me had given birth five times and had kidney stones once. She said kidney stones were way more painful.
Make sure you catch it when it comes out, if only to show the grandchildren.
Not had them but you have my sympathy. After a visit to the Thackeray medical museum a few years back my eyes were opened by the wide array of pliers forceps and other devices which used to be used to remove these things, often without anaesthetic 😳😳😳
I've just checked 6mm on a tape measure 😱
I'm stepping up on the prevention thing....
I had then about 11 years ago - bloody painful!
I also had a really bad kidney infection too at the time so was taking pain killers and antibiotics - spaced out doesn't even cover it!
One broke up and passed naturally - felt like I was peeing gravel!
The other one I had blasted - the pain killer I was given before the procedure was eye opening - it was huge, when I asked how she expected me to swallow it she just smiled and told me it wasn't for oral use...... apparently its the most effective way of administering it, which I hope I never have to do again!
The blasting wasn't too bad - feels like someone poking you with a stick - until the pain relief wears off.... then it was like I'd had my kidney kicked around the room - more pain killers and then a day or so of peeing blood and gravel.....
Enjoy!!
I can't seem to uncross my legs...
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but the pain from kidney stones isn’t actually the worst of it.
Rupturing your kidney when the stones refuse to pass is an order of magnitude worse - think convulsing on the floor with the rigors , constantly vomiting and literally sobbing in pain.
Luckily after 13 hours of that without any pain relief or even seeing a doctor a caring NHS nurse told me I was distracting her colleagues from their chatting so could I please keep it down a bit?
I literally had nightmares for a few years about that experience and the complete shambles that unfolded in the month afterwards (multiple discharges with no pain relief followed by a series of emergency admissions).
It’s fair to say I wouldn’t wish my hat I suffered on anyone - it’s hard to think of a worse patient experience.
My mum suffers badly from them - says child birth was a breeze in comparison. She's had them blasted a few times. And in the most recent episode one got lodged, caused a blockage and she ended up in intensive care with sepsis. Not nice at all.
I feel like reading this thread has been more damaging to my mental health than lockdown!
the pain killer I was given before the procedure was eye opening
That's handy
6mm stones... Ooof! 😮
Have doctors worked out how to safely inject Cola flavoured drink into our kidneys yet to dissolve these monsters?
😀
Nip a bit don't they!
About ten years ago for me, involving a ride to work (motorbike), lying at the side of the road in agony (got off before I fell off), ambulance, morphine (wonderful stuff) and a couple of nights in hospital.
Genuinely thought my ticket was being punched when I was lying on the pavement, astonishingly painful and just kept building.
In Oct 2020 I went into.hospital via ambulance with kidney stones. Spent 5 days in there and had kidney stents fitted with the idea that 6 weeks later I'd return to hospital and have the stones blasted, new stents fitted and then two weeks later have the stents removed for good.
Then came the second wave of C-19 and 4 months later I stil haven't been back in hospital. I've had near continuous infection. Embarrassingly I have virtually no bladder control and all my P is full of blood from the stents. Last week I gave in and accepted a prescription for Tramadol which is helping but doesn't completely relieve the pain and helps not one bit with bladder control. I'm self employed but can't work for.more than 3 hours before I'm doubled up again.
My advice.is don't have the stents fitted if you can't guarantee them being removed after 6 weeks.
Hope you start to feel better soon though
Neil, did you come on here looking for reassuring words of comfort?
So far we've had worse than childbirth, up the bum painkillers, sepsis, intensive care and ruptured kidneys.
Not working out so well for comforting!
the pain killer I was given before the procedure was eye opening
That’s handy
Bravo 👏👏
When I had kidney stones the pain made me vomit while I was waiting for the doctor to see me and give painkillers.
I told my wife the doctor had said kidney stones can be more painful than childbirth.
"Male doctor?" she said.
"Yes."
"Not as painful then."
naffa
Full MemberIn Oct 2020 I went into.hospital via ambulance with kidney stones. Spent 5 days in there and had kidney stents fitted with the idea that 6 weeks later I’d return to hospital and have the stones blasted, new stents fitted and then two weeks later have the stents removed for good.
Then came the second wave of C-19 and 4 months later I stil haven’t been back in hospital. I’ve had near continuous infection. Embarrassingly I have virtually no bladder control and all my P is full of blood from the stents. Last week I gave in and accepted a prescription for Tramadol which is helping but doesn’t completely relieve the pain and helps not one bit with bladder control. I’m self employed but can’t work for.more than 3 hours before I’m doubled up again.
My advice.is don’t have the stents fitted if you can’t guarantee them being removed after 6 weeks.
Hope you start to feel better soon though
****ing horrible, hope you get it sorted soon.
Yeah,best wishes naffa.
6mm?!?! That's the same as a BB pellet, that's ridiculous
Make sure you catch it when it comes out, if only to show the grandchildren.
Or made into a keyring, so you can show people down the pub. "Hey, see this ?, this came out my cock"
I'm not enjoying reading this, but can't seem to stop. God this sounds horrendous
They twinge a bit. I produce them almost constantly, fortunately only 2 severe attacks there is no pain like it absolutely excruciating.
Male doctor?” she said.
“Yes.”
“Not as painful then.”
Every mother who I’ve treat for renal colic will agree with the Dr. they’ve all exclaimed rather colourfully that it was worse than child birth.
When I was 12 I had to call an ambulance for my mum with kidney stones. She'd had three kids and said it was worse pain. No chance of driving or taxi. Paramedics were very understanding as I remember!
All the best and drink more water!
I’ve been given diclofenac
Yes, they're good but also available in over the counter as Pain eze tablets. The pharmacist will give you a bit of a pre screen and just say your physio said to get them for knee pain or something. Anything jointy and credible. They are only 12.5mg so multiply up to get your current dose. Ignore all this because I'm not a doctor!
I was reading extracts from Samuel Pepys diary last week. He had bladder/kidney stones removed surgically without anaesthetic back in the 17th C. The 3" incision left to heal itself without stitches. Ouch!
the staghorn stones we see in peoples kidneys (after the kidney was removed) at work are actual works of art, the human body is an amazing thing
Anyone else had this – what did you do to ease the pain other than meds, and how long did it take to pass? Did you do anything to ensure you didn’t get them again?
1) Just took the meds given, they did the job
2) At the hospital while waiting to be seen, and the second time, I was force fed a pint of water every hour, by my caring partner (nurse) until it passed (after attending the hospital).
3) drink water lots of lots of water.. and monitor the colour of your pee.. getting dark, drink more fricken water.
I believe they only use ultra sound on really large stones, that won't pass, mine we scanned and found wanting... but they still fricken hurt!