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Last year I went to a very nice restaurant for a roast and afterwards I felt as if my tummy had been pumped up to 100 psi.
Recently went to our local Turkish and experienced same symptoms but put it down to dodgy tap lager.
Had a takeaway yesterday and big fat tummy and lots of burping.
I can only put it down to a change of cooking oil and it not agreeing with me.
A friend of a friend was going to explain cooking oil to me but we were drunk and drifted off topic. Any thoughts?
As anyone who's ever watched Masterchef knows, absolutely everything should be cooked in butter. Lots of it!
Cooking oil is the devils snot
Sure you're not just over-ordering? Classic behaviour with meals out and takeaways, especially where a few beers are involved!
Other than that, why are you homing in on cooking oil as a possible problem? Do you suffer from steatorrhea?
Yep must be the cooking oil. I can’t think of any other possible explanation
Some Indian takeaways use rediculous amounts of oil...
Hmm, beer ?
I can only put it down to a change of cooking oil
Nothing to do with...
we were drunk
... then? It can't be the gallon and a half of Stella I've dropped after a mountain of food, it can only be different oil. There's no other possible explanation.
If this hunch is based on the ‘seed oils are poison’ concept, it would be wise to do some studious research.
TLDR: It’s quack science with no actual evidence.
Indeed. And plenty of actual science that it's utter bollocks. Zoe did a great episode on this, referencing loads of pukka data and randomised control trials rather than influencers and bro science. Still, experts eh? Who needs 'em?
It's definitely the oil. I can tell when I'm eating it , I have a very finely tuned tummy.
There's no way on earth I can eat a jam doughnut and just looking at flapjack makes me feel ill.
If it's definitely the oil, why did you ask for our thoughts?
If you’re sure it’s the oil, despite what we’ve said, I’m not sure why you asked the question.
I realise it’s not what the OP wants but here are some ways to avoid bloating, from the NHS. It would seem that at least don’t are applicable here
Don’t
do not drink lots of fizzy drinks, alcohol or caffeine in coffee and tea
do not eat lots of foods that are known to cause gas, like cabbage, beans or lentils
do not eat large meals late at night before bed, or slouch when eating
do not eat lots of processed, sugary, spicy or fatty foods
do not eat food you are intolerant to, if you have a food intoleranc
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/bloating/#:~:text=The%20most%20common%20reason%20for,constipation
It’s definitely the oil. I can tell when I’m eating it , I have a very finely tuned tummy.
Excellent, I'm glad we've got to the bottom of this. Continue treating your finely tuned tummy to some more of those famously oil-free Turkish meals, takeaways and roasts then.
Don’t
do not drink lots of fizzy drinks, alcohol or caffeine in coffee and tea
do not eat lots of foods that are known to cause gas, like cabbage, beans or lentils
do not eat large meals late at night before bed, or slouch when eating
do not eat lots of processed, sugary, spicy or fatty foods
Flippin' 'eck, I'd starve to death!!!
I'm asking the question as to find out why I'm fine 99% of the time but why this particular oil is not good.
Normally someone on here has experienced the same symptoms.
How do you know all those places were using the same oil?
...and how much oil gets used cooking "a roast" anyway?
The yorkshires were cooked in the offending oil and I'm assuming the spuds as well.
I'd be thinking onions and garlic, they do me in big time, and it was something relatively bland like a cottage pie i'd added a little garlic to that finally made me realise what it was.
The yorkshires were cooked in the offending oil and I’m assuming the spuds as well.
Oh well, fair enough. Should be cooked in dripping.
Except chips, which should be cooked in beef dripping
Amen to that. That’s what our local chippy uses.
So we’ve established that the solution to @zippykona’s problem is that he has to demand everything is cooked in Masterchef kitchen levels of butter, apart from chips and Yorkshires that must be cooked in beef dripping?
Job jobbed!
Was watching a video about Melon belly yesterday. Never heard of it before but apparently it’s a thing. Maybe seed oils are giving you a type of Melon belly!
A friend of a friend was going to explain cooking oil to me but we were drunk and drifted off topic. Any thoughts?
I'm thinking that you should ask your friend of a friend to explain when you next see them sober. Apparently they know.
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/greasy-food
"I don't know what's causing it but I definitely know what's causing it. What do other people think? PS I'm right, deffo, so it doesn't matter what you think."
What a strange thread. What are you seeking here, validation? I rather fear you've come to the wrong place, my friend.
If a gumboil could boil oil, how much oil could a gumboil boil, if a gumboil could boil oil?
Surely the sciencey way to sort this is to buy a selection of the finest cash and carry cooking oils and get to swiggin'
A lot of folk get bothered with bloating as they get into middle age. Gluten often seems to be a trigger but when tested often folk are found not to have an intolerence. I can eat pizza and pasta and most types of bread in large quantities but a random side portion of bread (with a bowl of soup) in a cafe can give me the bloats for days afterwards. Biscuits are bad for me and raw onions do it too.
I'd be surprised if it was cooking oil that was causing the OP's problem.
I can eat pizza and pasta and most types of bread in large quantities but a random side portion of bread (with a bowl of soup) in a cafe can give me the bloats for days
It's funny that you say this because I'm exactly the same. No issues with certain things then something seemingly innocuous triggers bloating.
Oil sounds like completely random and baseless speculation, but it certainly could be *something* in the food.
My wife has a similar effect for garlic unless very well cooked, it took years to work it out. She sometimes takes some sort of pill which helps a lot.
Used to suffer the same but it's not the oil. Turns out older me really doesn't get on with the dairy. Worst for me is ice cream. I shit you not (lot). I reckon I've got 20 mins from eating ice cream to errr... Makin fudge sauce hahaha
Some breads get me. Turkish breads for sure. Some breads trick me - I thought sourdough was ok but when you're complaining of bloat and guffs 3 days later, it clearly isn't.
Indian takeaways tend to use lots of ghee (that's clarified butter, I've clarified for you). But also could be the naans, onions/garlic. What kind of curry did you have? Phal?
My speculation on the oil front is that in the Turkish I had chicken kebab from the grill and deep fried chips. The takeaway which was at lunchtime , 7 hours pre beer and was deep fried chicken burger and chips.
We have eaten at the Turkish for over 20 years and only ever had amazing meals….until now.
MSG? Always get the bloated sensation after a chinese takeaway, though in your (OP) case t seems unlikely a decent restaurant would be using any MSG in a roast dinner. Maybe in the gravy.
Lots of food might be inflammatory. I've had issues with acid and GERD for ages. I recently started following Dr. Aviv's low-acid recipes. It has made a huge difference.
My speculation on the oil front
Oh.... Downgraded to speculation now?
Before know it it's going to be a suspicioun, then a hunch!
😉
absolutely everything should be cooked in butter
Or lard from a pig, unless you're cooking chips, in which case beef dripping is pretty good if you can't afford horse dripping. I hear zebra dripping is what the 1% use, but I'm down in the pig lard percentile of the population.
Isn't horse dripping basically cooking with glue?