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I am sure I saw chemtrails in action yesterday 😉 - 4 high level trails all at once - 4 planes flying at high altitude in close formation each with a chemtrail behind it!

Seriously I thought it a bit odd that 4 planes would be flying in close formation at high altitude. Military jets I assume but even then I thought it odd they would be formation flying. they were over Edinburgh flying north west. where were they going and what were they doing? Are there manoeuvres on somewhere right now?

Thoughts?


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 9:08 am
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Tory bombers heading for Holyrood?


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 9:09 am
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Minimum separation is 1000 ft in controlled airspace. Aircraft route along airways in the sky - very much like a road structure.

It’s very likely you saw 4 aircraft with minimum separation all headed the same way, not actually that close at all. At high enough altitude to produce contrails, there is no way you could pick out separately 4 ac in real close formation. Hope that makes sense?


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 9:12 am
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Mil fast jets almost always fly in formation when operating together, especially when transiting.

It might look it from the ground but they’re likely about 1/4 mile from each other, so not close formation

Fair chance they were heading out to refuelling areas to meet a tanker


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 9:12 am
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Often get the same here over Stourbridge about 0930 every other morning. Just assume it’s American airforce from east anglia flying back to states. I’ve the last week have noticed a lot more regular airforce jet noise heading West, assume training exercises in Wales


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 9:14 am
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You can also nerd out here and ask them

http://www.fightercontrol.co.uk/forum/index.php?sid=4d584bfa6b7209945a1cbdd97d4e6174


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 9:16 am
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It's the Russians


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 9:17 am
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If you recall where you were and what time you saw the planes, then look on Flightradar24 and you will see all the details of what model the planes were, their airline, flight number, elevation, where they were from, where they were going to and what chemicals they were spraying over the sheeple etc


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 9:17 am
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It's a mind control drug. The whole of Scotland will be voting Tory by Monday.


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 9:18 am
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Yes - "close formation" was a few hundred feet apart from what I saw but obviously could be more ( small / far away) but they certainly were flying together and in formation Two in the lead next to each other, the other two in identical positions trailing the lead pair. all the gaps were the same. Shame I didn't get a photo. Its just something I have never seen before.

At the same time there was a plane coming into Edinburgh airport much lower down and right underneath the 4.


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 9:19 am
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If you recall where you were and what time you saw the planes, then look on Flightradar24

That site is great but only works for civilian planes, for obvious reasons.


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 9:20 am
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You can see some military aircraft on there and civil aircraft taking part in military exercises (usually off the Coast of NE England) You can also see the Janet flights to Area 51


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 9:24 am
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Dropping Happy Pills, the whole of Scotland will be eating salad & hummus by Monday.

FIFM

😜🤣


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 9:25 am
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Here we go, watch these two FA20’s

[IMG] [/IMG]


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 9:27 am
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Don't think they are called chemtrails anymore.
Try stratospheric sulphate injections for the official government term.


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 10:48 am
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You can see some military aircraft on there and civil aircraft taking part in military exercises

Ah.. I was using it to watch planes at the Farnborough Airshow a few years back. Was fun to watch the A380 circling the place, but most of the other stuff wasn't on there.


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 10:51 am
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IF (and it's a massive IF) they were spraying 'stuff' surely they'd be further apart rather than right next to each other to create a greater spread?


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 11:19 am
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IF (and it’s a massive IF) they were spraying ‘stuff’

Spoiler: they weren't.


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 11:42 am
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If they are in Close enough formation and they are considered as one by air traffic . Mmakes it easier as only one of them has to jabber to ATC, and ATC waste less time dealing with 4 lots of separations.


 
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But but but I could see it cougar. And now my telly is behaving funny. and I put my shirt on inside out this morning. I tell you they have got me at last.


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 11:48 am
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I tell you they have got me at last

here, this tinfoil helmet will protect you


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 11:51 am
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I put my shirt on inside out this morning.

That’s what they want you to think.
It was actually outside-in.


 
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But but but I could see it cougar. And now my telly is behaving funny. and I put my shirt on inside out this morning. I tell you they have got me at last.

Don't be ridiculous.

That's aliens.


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 11:59 am
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helmet will protect you

RUN AWAY! RUN AWAY!


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 12:17 pm
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Cougar - same thing. The aliens have taken over the government and they all agree on the chemtrails - its how the aliens control you. I suspect you may be one of them. Wake up sheeple!


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 12:33 pm
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Crazy people shouting at clouds


 
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Here we go, watch these two FA20’s

Those Falcon 20’s are doing ECW work, doing threat simulation for the military.

Those ones are based at EMA, rest of the fleet is at Bournemouth to cover the southern approaches.

They always fly in 2ship or 4ship formation, with military stuff alongside. (Insider knowledge! 😉)

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Posted : 12/12/2018 1:30 pm
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We had 4 F15s over at low level yesterday.


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 1:45 pm
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If they were over Edinburgh flying roughly NW, they could have flown out of ne of the bases in Cambridgeshire, and be heading across to either meet a tanker on route or maybe be heading for a base in the NEcof the States. They may have been part of the detachment who have been based at Fairford, which has been reopened as a functioning US Air Force base, although it has been hosting B-52H and B-1B bombers since 2014, so those planes may have been a flight originating from there.
When you live in the south of the U.K. seeing lots of military activity is pretty much an everyday occurrence, especially in and around Wiltshire, Oxfordshire and Cambridgeshire.

Oh, and ‘Chemtrails’ are not, and never have been a real thing, just another imaginary ‘deep-state’ plot for the hopelessly inadequate to get excited about.


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 7:53 pm
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but were the pilots wearing helmets?


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 8:22 pm
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You would say that wouldn't you. "methinks he doth protest too much" You must be in on it. another alien outed by STW


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 8:28 pm
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Oh - and thanks for the sensible answers from folk - it did assuage my curiosity


 
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I once saw 3 trails very close together heading out over the North Sea above Co Durham (3 aircrafts worth) Grabbed my 20x70 bins & could plainly see it was a Victor K2 refuelling 2 Vulcans.
This was in the late 80's mind.


 
Posted : 12/12/2018 9:09 pm
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I saw these too. It was 4 Typhoons scrambled from Lossie. T'was in the news.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-46506704


 
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but were the pilots wearing helmets?

We've all seen Top Gun - helmets don't save pilots so there is no need for a pilot to wear one. Just think of the Goose.


 
Posted : 13/12/2018 6:59 am
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stratospheric sulphate injections

Where's Lemmy been lately.


 
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Whenever some sadly misguided muppet posted yet another chemtrail rant on Fb, I’d respond by posting up a bunch of photos showing vapour/contrails over London during the Battle of Britain, which was a bit before the introduction of jet-powered aircraft, and this particular quote:

From the book “Flight To Arras” by Antoine de Saint Exupery, written in 1942 about a military mission in 1940:
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“Are the anti-aircraft firing, Dutertre?”
“I believe they are firing, Captain.”

Dutertre cannot tell. The bursts are too distant and the smoke is blended in with the ground. They cannot hope to bring us down by such vague firing. At thirty three thousand feet we are virtually invulnerable. They are firing in order to gauge our position, and probably also to guide the fighter groups towards us. A fighter group diluted in the sky like invisible dust.

The German on the ground knows us by the pearly white scarf which every plane flying at high altitude trails behind like a bridal veil. The disturbance created by our meteoric flight crystallizes the watery vapor in the atmosphere. We unwind behind us a cirrus of icicles. If the atmospheric conditions are favorable to the formation of clouds, our wake will thicken bit by bit and become an evening cloud over the countryside.

The fighters are guided towards us by their radio, by the bursts on the ground, and by the ostentatious luxury of our white scarf. Nevertheless we swim in an emptiness almost interplanetary. Everything around us and within us is total immobility.”
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If contrails are just water vapour, then why do pilots wear oxygen masks? It makes you think, doesn't it...


 
Posted : 13/12/2018 7:30 pm
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Houns- were those taking off at MIddleton-One-Row / Teesside?? I thought that place was almost closed?


 
Posted : 13/12/2018 8:05 pm
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We had more fast/low traffic over earlier today. Typhoons this time. They use the A9 for navigation 🙂


 
Posted : 13/12/2018 8:08 pm
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Dimmer Skies Are Safer Skies


 
Posted : 13/12/2018 8:10 pm
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Those Dassault Falcons are likely from Teeside, operated for wargaming and radar testing by Cobham Aviation Services.


 
Posted : 13/12/2018 9:35 pm
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International Chemtrail Association my hairy arse!


 
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"Talk to me Goose..."


 
Posted : 15/12/2018 12:30 am
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You have a goose?


 
Posted : 15/12/2018 12:31 am

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