[Closed] cockapoo puppy - South Lanarkshire - pointers ??

well which is it, a pointer or a cockapoo?

^^^^ I knew someone would say that 🙂

We have a cockerpoo that we've had since she was 8 weeks old. Made a few phone calls to breeders we had seen on Pets4Homes etc and to be honest I was put off by most. Rude, disinterested etc - ok this may have been by design but it didn't feel like it. In the end spotted one and called the breeder and was on the phone for nearly 45 mins chatting about the puppy, the parents, our past dog history etc and got allt he right vibes. Went round to see it and was there a solid 2 1/2 hours just chatting, mum dog came and sat on my little boy's knee etc so did the deal. So, speak to people and if you don't get a good feeling walk away. Be prepared to hang fire until the right one comes along; you'll know it when you see it

Things to bear in mind about cockerpoos; they are strong willed, very intelligent, high energy for (never mind for their size) and as puppies they chew anything (most seem to particularly like underwear), have an incredibly strong bite and will not let go if they don't want and it's almost impossible to prize their mouth open, are prone to barking at anything and like the sound of their own voice so all these traits need to be trained out early.

We didn't with ours and whilst overall she is a brilliant family pet she barks way too much and can be very stubborn. Our fault entirely but due to her size it is not too much of an issue. As per the above they need a fair bit of walking and a good sized garden is an advantage.

Overall though lovely dogs, great family pets, don't moult and are great companions.

Not a cockapoo, but a similar story here. earlier in the year.

We were in the same boat as you, wee yin really the driver, I'm no particularly bothered, wife would have went with it as the wee yin was really into getting a dog. She wanted a CKC spaniel, basically cos my BIL has one and it's a fantastic dog.

My niece is now a bit of a CKCS expert, is on all the forums etc, and she put me in touch with a couple of folks that were considered about the best dealers around. Both of them were very stringent, lots of questions, but no promises, they didn't keep a list of those waiting as such, but rather they'd give pups to the absolute right people, and we seemed to tick that box.

They both had nothing on the horizon either, but I'm sure they reason that if you're a good egg, then you'll wait for the right dog, and I can see the logic in that. They were 1200 and 1600 quid, whereas buying one off the usual places was 3-3500, as folk have the 'I want that pup right now' blindness. I was amazed that folk would risk a farmed puppy for nearly 3x the price of something that had been bred properly (yes, yes, I know lots of folk will criticise breeders for some of their practices, that's for another thread)

You may struggle to fine a breeder as it's not really a breed, I originally wanted a Jug, great wee dogs, but finding somewhere reputable was nigh on impossible as it's a mongrel really, entirely down to luck.

Try Facebook, there must be a Scots Cockapoo group, plenty folk will point you in the direction of good people mate.

We gave up in the end, as I wasn't convinced the wee yin REALLY wanted one, and I've been proved right, so won't be going there again.

We decided Cockapoos in general seemed to be quite hyper and I’ve not seen a well behaved one round our area yet. Probably the owners fault for not training but equally they seem quite boisterous.

We went for a Cavachon instead - she’s still playful but has a quieter temperament and at puppy parties and puppy training she got everything a lot quicker / easier. She’s very patient with our little girl and I’ve never seen her snap despite some tail pulling (which I quickly stamped out) and over enthusiastic cuddling etc!

When I looked virtually all the pups I could find for sale were private sales - a lot had bad grammar in them so to be honest I completely ruled them out. I spoke to a few other people with adverts to get a feel for who they were / the background of the dogs. I went with a breeder on a farm in West Wales where the mummy dog was their well loved family pet and it was her 2nd litter (of 3 planned and then no more). I got to see the (happy) mummy dog in the farmhouse with her pups and they had pedigree certificates for both parent dogs there - plus proof of the various inoculations done at that point.

I’m not sure if this was the right way or wrong way to purchase a puppy but we have a happy and healthy dog (she’s now 5 years old).

Why not just get cocker,you are going to end up paying £2500 for a mongrel.My mate just got one from a breeder in Hawick.Cute dog ,just dont get the price tag even with the covid premium

useful info, many thanks all.

I do get the 'why a cockapoo', believe me... but it's not just down to me, so..

Interesting about the poorly worded private ads, have seen quite a few of those too, and also tend to be put off by them.

Am kinda hoping this post finds someone who knows someone... !

Just FYI on cost I paid £350 for a Cavachon which seemed about the going rate at the time a few years back. Wifey initially wanted a miniature Dauschund but (1) they were very expensive (2) they seem like a nightmare breed with yapping / being really disobedient and hard to train (3) some seem to injure themselves just trying to get up and down stuff as their legs are so short.

Edit - just had a quick look at pets4homes and the prices on there are mental!

I have known afew cockapoos (there were a few round my old house) and they were pretty nice, friendly dogs. Energy, but less than my cocker spaniel and about the same size.

Word of warning: Look for what the parents are. A neighbour bought a schnoodle puppy that they thought was miniature poodle cross miniature schnauser. It turned out to be Schnauser/normal Poodle and was freaking huge by the time it was four months old.

In 3-6 months there will be thousands of cockapoos up for adoption as people (not saying you) haven't thought through the implications of owning dogs after the pandemic clears.

In 3-6 months there will be thousands of cockapoos up for adoption as people (not saying you) haven’t thought through the implications of owning dogs after the pandemic clears.

I bet there's not.

What there will be is even more ****wits out and about with even less control of their dogs than the normal pre covid ****wits did.

Having owned dogs for over 30yrs I just could not find it in myself to pay over 2K for a designer mongrel.

Now I am not having a go, and if that is what you want then that is what you should get, I just feel sorry and a bit sickened that you are going to get right royally shafted by some crook breeder for what started as an accidental cross breed.

By crook breeder I mean any that are cashing in on this insane situation.

I would also add that your kids would fawn and go google eyed over a cocker pup just as much at half the price.

Good luck with your dog purchase. My dog buying advice ? don't over think it all and make it an expedition.

Find dog, buy dog, look after dog, job jobbed.

@brads. The cockerpoo was an entirely intentional crossbreed and has been around since the 1950's. Not saying all designer dogs are a good thing, some certainly are not however the cost of breeding really good cockerpoos is no different from any other true pedigree dog. They also have quite different personalities to pure cocker spaniels as well. Not saying they are better or worse than a pure cocker but different and some people may prefer them :).

Don't forget as well that most pedigrees started off at some point as a crossbreed as people tried to produce dogs for (mainly) different working tasks.

Of course there are some dodgy breeders out there but again that is the case with pedigree animals too.

Lovely dogs, hyper, this time of year expect it to look like it's fallen in a swamp after every walk.

this time of year expect it to look like it’s fallen in a swamp after every walk

Yep. If ours is anything but freshly groomed she seems to get wetter and more bedraggled than any dog I know. We have a labradoodle as well and even she doesn't look quite so pitiful when returning from a wet work 🙂

We got a cocker after much begging from the wife and wean.

Guess who's dog it will actually end up being!

Nothing against Cockapoos, I know its an established breed these days but I think the working spaniels tend to have less issues. We went for a cocker as they are a bit less mental than springers

Oh boy do you have a shock coming lol.
My working cockers took mental to a new level hahaha awesome wee dogs.

There's bloody millions of them around, they're the only thing that outnumber T6's in Aviemore in summer!

well, just booked to go see a litter next week at this place :

https://www.cockapoosforsale.co.uk/

Think they only come in Blue right enough... 🙂

Things to bear in mind about cockerpoos; they are strong willed, very intelligent, high energy for (never mind for their size) and as puppies they chew anything (most seem to particularly like underwear), have an incredibly strong bite and will not let go if they don’t want and it’s almost impossible to prize their mouth open, are prone to barking at anything and like the sound of their own voice so all these traits need to be trained out early.

Grew up with/owned Springer Spaniels, Bedlington Terriers and cockerpoos - I agree with the intelligent part but the cockerpoo is by far the most trainable. You don't know strong willed till you've dealt with a nose dominant working Springer. They do bark a fair bit - but the jaw strength thing seems wrong - our cockerpoo is a strong buggger but it's easy enough to prize her mouth open, as is my working Bedlington's mouth. The only dog where you're going to have a problem opening it's mouth is a full on land shark like a Belgian Malinois. I remember as a kid being able to open up the mouths of some fairly big working springers to be able to get stuff out their mouths that wouldn't have been good for them.

If you want a calm, quiet, fluffy, hypoallergenic dog that runs at 30+ mph and murders rats for fun get a Bedlington. If you want a bouncy, intelligent and easy to train dog get the cockerpoo.

The most important thing you can do is meet both parents, 9/10 they end up exactly like one of the parents in terms of character. My Bedlington is exactly like his dad to the point of almost being a clone of his demeanour and character. He is calm, and loving/confident people. The cockerpoo is exactly like her working cocker mum in terms of temperament - bouncy with a high drive to please in terms of working/obeying commands.

Ace - lovely dogs, really are. As I say just be firm with them as puppies and IMO they make one of the best family dogs going. I am a bit biased but still... they're great 🙂

Don’t forget as well that most pedigrees started off at some point as a crossbreed as people tried to produce dogs for (mainly) different working tasks.

See the Bedlington Terrier - a bastard mix of a whippet, otterhound and dandie dinmont terrier.

Some people have argued, with a good degree of insight, that the kennel club and the whole pedigree concept wrecked working dogs or a lot of the working lines in breeds like the Bedlington.

Breed for health and ability in the field and you get a good dog, breed for KC requirements and you end up with god awful insults to nature.

They do bark a fair bit – but the jaw strength thing seems wrong

Ours is a bugger, once she has hold of a 'toy' (ie sock, slipper, piece of lego etc) it is very difficult to get her to let go. I know of other 'poo owners who find the same but perhaps with are just not firm enough with her. Our labradoodle on the other hand is much easier to deal with in this respect.

Bedlingtons sound like my type of dog!

The trick is one hand prying open at the molars and one and prying open at the incisors.

You could of course have a ridiculously hench cockerpoo.

Bedlingtons come with their own set of weird traits, mine doesn't like playing fetch at all and even though he is very very calm and is always happy to see other dogs, he loves to practice play fighting - to the point that walks are boring - he'd rather rough house with you. They are Jekyll and hide dogs, on one hand they are very headstrong and can be hard to train and on the other hand they are as clingy as a poodle. They're very affectionate - mine adores and I mean really adores other people and dogs, again he'd rather go on a walk into the city to find people and dogs than play fetch in the park. However, they're scrappy little dogs - eg the play fighting, the fact that hunt vermin and cats with a level of prejudice that I've not quite seen in a dog before and if they do get attacked by another dog they will damn near end them. My 10kg Bedlington was attacked by a 40kg Mastiff type thing, got him on his back and was close to killing it.

All breeds and individual dogs/lines have their upsides and downside:

My cockerpoo

+ Intelligent and easy to train
+ Bouncy and loves to play fetch
+ Very loving
+ Good watchdog
+

- Good watchdog (yaps a lot)
- High energy
- Yaps at other dogs that approach her

My Bedlington

+ Calm and Lazy
+ The almost whippet like speed is a site to behold
+ Loves to just chill with you
+ Doesn't bark, loves everyone
+ Likes other peoples dogs

- Will welcome a hitman into your home with open arms
- Harder to train than the cockerpoo
- A bit stupid, takes a lot longer to learn commands than the cockerpoo
- Petty thief
- Discerning taste in terms of food, will be picky

well, just booked to go see a litter next week at this place :

https://www.cockapoosforsale.co.uk/

OP, you should ask them about what health tests they do. They don't seem to mention them on their website.
Have a look here: https://www.pets4homes.co.uk/pet-advice/what-to-look-for-when-buying-a-cockapoo.html
A quick search on Google suggests hip tests and eye tests as a minimum

Also, they can often be quite highly strung dogs and resource guarding is not uncommon.
Good luck if you go ahead. Just things to be aware of.

Edited to say: can't do quote things properly, clearly!

 

@brads

Re working cockers. How much activity do they actually need? Just curious really, although part of me does like the idea of a dog that’ll keep going out on the Fells longer than the current dog.

We’ve a Wirehaired Vizsla from working stock, 60-90 minute run before work and he just sleeps the rest of the time bar some training/play for 30-60 minutes late afternoon.

The trick is one hand prying open at the molars and one and prying open at the incisors.

The trick is spending time training your dog.

Anyone that says "My dog is yappy/hard work/aggressive because of their breed" hasn't put the work in. Yes, certain breeds have tendencies towards behaviour - but it's all controllable through training.

I absolutely soften that message if you get a rescue. It is so much harder training a dog past 18 months, with in-grained habitual behaviour and a far less plastic mind, than moulding and setting boundaries with a pup.

I know its an established breed these days

its a mongrel that costs a fortune because people are nuts.

Anyone that says “My dog is yappy/hard work/aggressive because of their breed” hasn’t put the work in. Yes, certain breeds have tendencies towards behaviour – but it’s all controllable through training.

Disagree. Grew up with tonnes of dogs, including proper gun line experienced Springers. They all have their traits, none of which you can iron out completely - and you don't want to because you end up with a meek unhappy animal. Different breeds, lines and individuals have their traits - you wouldn't go and suggest that a Malinois from a police line is a good dog for a first time owner.

You work with their traits, you don't stamp them out. This is why the police, army and guide dog trainers routinely fail dogs that don't show the right character for their role. My Bedlington would make an absolutely shit retriever but really likes to hunt vermin, the cockerpoo would do alright as a working gun dog and finds that kind of work interesting.

You are always going to be fighting their instinctive traits? Got a coonhound? You're going to be fighting it's tendency to follow a trail and bay - they do this naturally from 11 weeks of age. Got a decent working collie? You'll be fighting it's instinct to herd. Anyone who tells me that they've completely removed their hounds instinct to follow a scent and bay is an outright liar.

It is so much harder training a dog past 18 months, with in-grained habitual behaviour and a far less plastic mind, than moulding and setting boundaries with a pup.

Depends on the dog, a lot of people who hunt with Bedlington's don't even bother training them intensely for that role until they are at least 18 months.

its a mongrel that costs a fortune because people are nuts.

So if we get one I’ll train it to pish on yer bike .. 🤣

We’ve had our Cockapoo-a-lot since a pup.
Looked at a few but went on our gut feeling. The chap we chose was honest about being a breeder. He clearly knew dogs & we spent a good hour sitting with the pups, saw the Mum etc. He asked us as many questions as we asked him.
Very happy with the dog who’s now 3 1/3.
They are a lovely breed, great temperament, but they do need consistency when training.

very intelligent,

not ours, he is just a proper **** !

We reserved a/our cockapoo December last year just after the litter was born. We went round to the family early January and chose Coco who we collected late February. We visited numerous breeders but that whole experience put us right off until, by chance, I heard of this new litter.

It was a family pet who was having her first litter and when we went round to view the difference between these and the breeders was night and day.

Cockapoo's are great family pets, very loving, intelligent, energetic and fun.

I would upload a photo but cba with the hassle.

My friend has a small cockapoo, who is the most adorable, obedient dog I’ve ever come across, she is a delight to spend time with. He has trained her well and her behaviour is pretty much perfect both generally and when she joins us on rides 🙂

@piemonster - your Wirehaired Visla sounds exactly like our Working Cocker. Key with her seems to be giving her interesting stuff to do as much as long walks. The rest of time she'll just sleep on sofa providing she is with people.
Most of our walks are off-lead in the fells/forests so to be honest she probably covers 4x the distance we do though!!

Funnily enough my mate got a Wirehaired Visla this summer - she is a fabulous thing too!

Thanks for all the tips and ideas. New family member picked tonight and we are collecting him at the weekend 😀

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I can't wait to adopt one when I own my own home. [Cockapoo]. I've absolutely fallen in love with them. When I visit a friend of mine, I spend more time with the dog than my friend!

Ianc puppy looks so lovely, I expect he’s going to be lot bigger than ours. At 10 weeks old ours would fit across two hands. She only comes about half way up towards the knee now at three years old. The mother was a pretty small cocker and the father was a miniature poodle.

My parents and grand parents always had dogs, with the exception of 2 dogs over 40 years that I can remember they only had two dogs that weren’t amazingly well behaved and loving.

Our cockapoo has taken that too another level, the only dog I’ve had that actually pushes into you with her head and gives a proper cuddle. Happy to sleep and chilled around the house but loves a mad play when prompted, goes from crazy to super calm when told to do so. Loves walks of any length, quickly learned pretty good recall from playing and chasing other dogs. On the lead just walks by other dogs no matter how much fuss they are making, just looks at them like they are stupid.

Didn’t know whe had a bark at all until a couple of years old when she must have got a little more confident but that’s only at people knocking on the door, and only once or twice to let us know they are there. Oh and squirrels entering her garden.

Wonderful, caring, expressive and fun dogs. Wouldn’t be without and considered getting another for company in case she’s got used to people be with her more during lock down. Resisted this so far, the prices which appear to have tripled are helping with that.

Anyone that says “My dog is yappy/hard work/aggressive because of their breed” hasn’t put the work in. Yes, certain breeds have tendencies towards behaviour – but it’s all controllable through training.

Or a lot more exercise. The latest hound arrived with a bit of a bark when doorbells went off or people walked past the house. 6 weeks in and he's now a quiet dog and evenings have him comatose in front of the fire. It helps that our local walking spot has other owners that like their dogs to exercise and mingle. Charging around after whippets, collies and spaniels is the best thing ever.

^^^^ great to hear, many thanks. Collecting him tomorrow afternoon. Emptied the local pet shop into the car last night....jings, it's like stocking up for a baby 🙂 Crate, bed, blankets, collar, lead, toys, food, toothpaste, shampoo, brushes etc etc. Oh, and toilet mats - WTF !

folk have the ‘I want that pup right now’ blindness

New family member picked tonight and we are collecting him at the weekend 😀

I was almost Prophetic!

In the early days, invite outside for a wee as regular as possible and praise for doing a one or two outside. Ours was pretty much 100% toilet trained in two to three weeks.

I recall like most breeds they do have some issues that the breed is prone too, something to do with ears (probably from the cocker side) more importantly there is something I think called fip, which is an issue with hip or knee displacement. Some breeders test and have a certificate to show the parents don’t have it.

My friends Cock a Poo had surgery for a knee where the bones just kept slipping apart somehow, would have cost thousands if they weren’t on an insurance plan.

@iainc - trust me, it'll become your most visited shop. I've spent as much in our local one in the last few weeks as I have anywhere else all year (with the exception of the specilaist vets of course). Some of it is a total waste of money as well, bought a 'mattress' for the bottom of the crate, she hated it and freaked out with it in there, took it out, she savaged it and pulled the filling out now happily sleeps on just blankets in there. Bought a great big cushioned bed for the lounge, won't even set foot on it, will happily lie on the floor/rug next to it though.

I'd suggest the breeder we got ours from who was incredible but she's closed her waiting list at the minute.

We've never had our own dog before but have lots of friends and family with a range of breeds and getting Afton our cockapoo was the best decision we've ever made. He's the perfect addition to the family - doesn't smell (literally at all), doesn't shed hair/skin so perfect for allergies (and not having to hoover the house every few hours!). Best thing you'll do but what we were told time and time again was go to a decent breeder. We were looking at a place in Lancashire but when we started researching it, they'd been subject to protests at the gates against puppy farming etc so be careful!

🙂

lol @downshep

We got a schnoodle 3yrs ago from a workmate. Cost me £500 he is turning out to be a fantastic mutt. As far as i am concerned he is a mongrel, my daughter calls him a schnoddle-being as she believes he is human. He is much more athletic than a schnauzer, fantastic on the lead and obedient off the lead. He has had his incidents. He is rather highly strung and doesnt like being left so he gnaws stuff. i bought a big solid wooden bed for him and he seems to have settled on that. He is capable as a trail hound, he is very ball driven and he is amazingly sociable. As happy running 10miles off road as sitting on my wifes lap for cuddles or lying with me on the couch. We recently discovered when i was play fighting with my daughter that he is also very protective. I was rather shocked.

We wanted to get him a buddy and didnt want to be comparing so we got a Schnauzer instead. He is much less athletic and nowhere near as alert. He has all the schnauzer traits and has complemented his brother fantastically. Cost us £650 2yrs ago. Again, as far as i am concerned he is a mutt. He isnt quite as accomplished on and off the lead as his brother but he has a lot more self confidence. He wont easily bend his will but he is getting there and will settle in next 12mths.

I find it horrific that people will spend thousands on a mutt but it seems to be the way it is. All dogs are difficult but reward 10x. Just dont expect a cockerpoo or whatever dog to be incident free. It is a big investment in time and effort from everyone to get the most back.

I find it horrific that a relatively high level mammal like a dog was once so cheap that idiots could buy them on a whim just because they were a "mutt".

I also find the fact that the Kennel Club and their pedigree system has bred a lot of "pedigree" dogs into genetic oblivion and destroyed working limes in the pursuit of ridiculous shows, horrific.

I don't mind people who spend 2k on a cockapoo, hopefully it means they really thought about the decision and have enough money to look after them properly.

I recall like most breeds they do have some issues that the breed is prone too, something to do with ears (probably from the cocker side) more importantly there is something I think called fip, which is an issue with hip or knee displacement. Some breeders test and have a certificate to show the parents don’t have it.

The one to see the tests for with cockapoos is Progressive Retinal Atrophy. This is a DNA test done on the parents.

I don’t mind people who spend 2k on a cockapoo, hopefully it means they really thought about the decision and have enough money to look after them properly.

See now i am the reverse. I just see people with too much money buying the next throwaway item to fill their time. Once it has destroyed the wifes favourite chair or shit on the cream carpet, even at £2000, its disposable income to most.

I would much rather someone loved their mutt. Spent time with their mutt and taught it to be a loving pal for the rest of its life. A free mutt owned by a guy living on the street can be a happier dog than a £2000 trophy living in a posh house with poor owners.....

oakleymuppet, do you have a cockapoo?

See now i am the reverse. I just see people with too much money buying the next throwaway item to fill their time. Once it has destroyed the wifes favourite chair or shit on the cream carpet, even at £2000, its disposable income to most.

I would much rather someone loved their mutt. Spent time with their mutt and taught it to be a loving pal for the rest of its life. A free mutt owned by a guy living on the street can be a happier dog than a £2000 trophy living in a posh house with poor owners…..

Of course they can be.

However, I've come across a lot more angry and mistreated dogs in or near council estates than I have cockapoos in Henley or Richmond.

oakleymuppet, do you have a cockapoo

A Cockapoo and a Bedlington - all pre-COVID dogs. I only paid a few hundred quid for the Bedlington. Both ridiculous looking fluffy dogs, the Cockapoo was basically considered a pedigree dog in London whilst the Bedlington was confused with a poodle that had gone wrong and is somehow venerated as a well hard Northern dog, by construction workers who want a “proper” dog that is fluffy enough for their wife up here in Sheffield, where we are living now.

The Cockapoos the proper dog, the Bedlingtons a loveable air headed twit.

We have seen the clear PRA test certificates and pedigree for the father, which is a miniature poodle and the pedigree certs for the mother, a cocker spaniel so hopefully have checked out as much as we can in a private sale.

I don’t think you’d buy much of a cockapoo round here for £2000 though unless going to a dodgy gumtree supplier..

I don’t think you’d buy much of a cockapoo round here for £2000 though unless going to a dodgy gumtree supplier..

F my Welly boot, how much did you pay for the mongrel?!!

However, I’ve come across a lot more angry and mistreated dogs in or near council estates than I have cockapoos in Henley or Richmond.

Of course you have. A cockapoo has been bred to be a docile as possible, fit into middle class britain, not shed any hair etc. A nice little jack russell rescue or terrier on a council estate with a loving owner might just need a little more controlling. Also the fact half the cockapoos are locked indoors waiting for their owners to finish their 10hr shift and then open the back door for them to have a shite means you probably only see the ones who are lucky enough to get good owners/homes 🙂

I don’t think you’d buy much of a cockapoo round here for £2000 though unless going to a dodgy gumtree supplier..

Please explain 'much of a cockapoo' to me. All i know is a healthy happy dog is a good dog. Is there a scale that i dont know about that makes one better than the other?

By much I meant you’d get about 2/3 of one going by the current prices !

Oaft.

We have had our posh mongrel for a year now and I was a little reluctant having had a pointer and springer before but she is ace- great character, very intelligent like when she hears the toaster pop she knows she can scrounge a bit of crust and will run to the kitchen- only thing is she is very needy partly down to lockdown and us being with her all the time but she suffers from separation anxiety which needs training out of her[url= https://i.postimg.cc/0y0fk8xL/IMG-9469.jp g" target="_blank">https://i.postimg.cc/0y0fk8xL/IMG-9469.jp g"/> [/img][/url]

By much I meant you’d get about 2/3 of one going by the current prices ! Ahh that makes sense. I for some reason thought you were implying that the more you spent the better the dog.

Sorry

^^^ no worries, I didn’t word it very well !

Me and Fin are awaiting puppy pictures. Have you picked a name yet.

You may want to put some more air in the Levo forks for the basket assuming its going on the trails with you.

LOL 😂. Boys have picked the name, he’s Ollie !

Rest assured, FB will be flooded with pics I’m sure once we get him tomorrow !

Of course you have. A cockapoo has been bred to be a docile as possible,

Not really mate, the good ones are working cocker - miniature poodle crosses. Both still good working dogs - people underestimate poodles. The cockerpoo would have made a better working gun dog than all but one of the Springers my family have had.

As I mentioned earlier, I have a proper working stock Bedlington that very much looks like the old type of Bedlington you see in photos from the 1930s. He’s calmer and has less prey drive than the cockerpoo.

I don’t see many Jack Russells about these days, they’re middle/skilled working class dogs. The chavs have Staffies, Boston’s and whatever staffie bastard mix they think they can get round the dangerous dogs act.

It isn’t middle class Cockapoo owners responsible for the majority of mistreatment of dogs in this country, Id be hard pressed to get a cockerpoo rescue - whenever I look into rescues I get bombarded to take on ****ing staffies.

I’d be surprised if there are a lot of cockerpoos being locked up in Richmond or Henley as you can’t move without almost stepping on one when out and about.

I thought you might have gone with a traditional Scottish name. 😉

^^^ well I had a few in mind, but we said the boys could choose 😀

the good ones are working cocker – miniature poodle

we've got one - working cocker mum / miniature poodle dad and she's a cracking dog, agree with all the stuff above apart from she's ridiculously vocal, constantly chirping, grumbling, she's got two growls - one is a low level grumble and means nothing and the other a proper one.

But we were warned, as part working cocker you have to keep her busy or she'll go self employed, and you won't like the jobs they find for themselves.....

we’ve got one – working cocker mum / miniature poodle dad and she’s a cracking dog, agree with all the stuff above apart from she’s ridiculously vocal, constantly chirping, grumbling, she’s got two growls – one is a low level grumble and means nothing and the other a proper one.

It’s the Bedlington that’s not very vocal - he just sleuths around the house with this vacant velociraptor look in his eyes - unless he wants to play fight. The cockapoo of ours chirps like yours - she’s learnt that yapping is bad so she’s developed a weird chirping language for different things. It’s a poodle thing that cockapoos seem to inherit. She picks up balls and will either throw them at you if she’s bored, throw them down the stairs so she can chase them herself or she’ll go out of her way to find the Bedlington and will deliberately throw the ball his way and then lie there waiting for him to try and get it, when he finally does try to get it after a two minute Mexican standoff (where the Bedlington is trying to compute what to do) she will then chase him away yapping her head off. This seems to be her sense of humour.

ours will stand with a ball between her feet in a play bow teasing you to get it at which point she'll grab it and run off. If you can wait long enough though she'll eventually nose it to you, you throw it, she gets it back.........and it starts all over again.

ours will stand with a ball between her feet in a play bow teasing you to get it at which point she’ll grab it and run off.

Our labradoodle does this or plays tug of war with it for ages. Oddly our cockerpoo has no interest in fetch at all or any toys really. She still growls at the other one though and guards the toys she’s not remotely interested in otherwise 🙂

****, it sounds like this dog is gonna be smarter than me 🤔

ours will stand with a ball between her feet in a play bow teasing you to get it at which point she’ll grab it and run off. If you can wait long enough though she’ll eventually nose it to you, you throw it, she gets it back………and it starts all over again.

Yep! Ours does exactly this too. He just wants to be chased.

Echoing most of the above, the cleverest, most obedient, affectionate dog I’ve known. So much personality. He absolutely loves coming out with me on the bike, hates fireroad, loves singletrack.

Looks a bit like ours, Iain

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Although at this time of year when she goes out, she ends up looking like this
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Great dog though. We’ve had her 4 years (didn’t pay £2k but she would have been worth it).
She’s very enthusiastic absolutely everything and is very friendly. She does bark at people walking past the house, which can get irritating and she has something against a few of the bigger dogs in the area - all bark.

Enjoy, anyway. It’s a steep learning curve.

Don’t get me wrong, the Bedlingtons a great dog - he’s more interested in people as opposed to playing fetch/retrieve and seems to gravitate towards people who are down - who he will attach himself to - unlike the cockapoo he’ll put himself between my wife and whatever frightens her eg a stranger approaching her. His way of getting attention is through petty thievery of things that he thinks you value and will chase him for. He has a ridiculous sense of smell and has stopped us from moving further forward on hikes as he’s spotted/smelled a snake in the undergrowth way before we would have seen it (if we would Have at all).

He’s just not as driven as the cockapoo to work, doesn’t attempt to communicate in quite such complex ways for a dog nor is he as quick at problem solving.

What I’m trying to say is that cockapoos have their place, people who turn their noses up at them are twits.

Yeah, they’re great dogs. Absolutely no regrets for us.
Looking forward to tomorrow’s walk as we’re going to her favourite place, where she’ll charge around the woods, barking at squirrels.

tenfoot- she’s lovely 👍

We have a long block paved drive that slopes down to the gate, at the top is a garden bench up against a brick retaining wall, Fin drops the tennis ball from the top of the wall, it rolls of the bench, launched down the drive which she chases and repeats. No one has shown her how do do this.
When the next doors dog comes round to play it waits at the bottom of the drive for Fin to drop the ball of the wall and then takes it back for her to repeat. Its a pleasure to watch.
Most of the time she's as laid back as me, she does like a bike ride.

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