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All but one toilets found to have traces of cocaine! I don't know if staff and MPS have different loos but they are considering bringing sniffer dogs in
Now we know Gove is no stranger to the Peruvian marching powder, we know Osbourne has been in the chamber off his face, we know Johnson liked his nose candy when younger but no signs since
any other MPs we know about?
this is going to be fun
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59539589
Does the pope shit in the woods?.
Hardly a revelation tbh.
Does the Pope shit in the woods?
Edit: Haaaaa, Jinx!
I'm with nobeer.
What's interesting is that they haven't used sniffer dogs etc so far, not least because of security.
It’s not even slightly surprising.
Why the shock? To be honest at lear it shows some form of normality amoungst the MPs that some use drugs recreationaly.
No shock but its just amusing me.
To be honest, no one could have drafted the Finance Act 2009 and not been off their face! It would probably make more sense if I tried to interpret it while under the influence, but I'm more likely to be challenged and tested.
To be honest at lear it shows some form of normality amoungst the MPs
Is it normal ? Tbh it's well known issue at the commons and a blind eye is turned otherwise mandatory randomised drug screening would be performed such as in many other industries.
But of course they are only making important decisions they ain't doing anything that will kill their colleagues I guess so hse won't do the enforcing and they won't do it voluntarily.....
Does the pope shit in the woods?.
I thought the bear was catholic
I will imagine that Cressida will decide (again) that the police don't investigate retrospectively.
Why the shock? To be honest at lear it shows some form of normality amoungst the MPs that some use drugs recreationaly
Does TheBrick refer to a kilo brick of cocaine?
No doubt next week we'll see the usual suspects sniffling away and doing their utmost to blame Labour for this, right up until the point that Cressida Dick decides that no further action is to be taken.
Coincidentally, loss of passports and ID mean that people won't be able to vote under new laws designed to curb voter fraud. They're very specific about "Middle class cocaine users", I wonder what they'll come up with next?
Given the recent performances of our PM and his chums I was thinking a mix of nosebag, ketamine and acid
Reading those proposals for punishing ‘middle class drug users’, their hypocrisy is quite staggering, given their personal track records. This also has echos of the fag-end of the Major administration and it’s faux morality
So, are we taking bets on which Tory MP going to get caught first in a tabloid sting?
I’m going for Gove
NOthing to see here
Follow the party line!
What’s interesting is that they haven’t used sniffer dogs etc so far, not least because of security.
Explosives dogs =/= drugs dogs
surprise surprise rich white people do coke.
Not defending these ****s but sadly coke is all too normal for folks of all classes. Plenty of people can't even go for a pint and a game of pool midweek without it...
Cressida will decide (again) that the police don’t investigate retrospectively.
Minority Report seems like the next step, if retrospective investigations are out.
Which I’m ok with so long as Tom Cruise isn’t PM
It's actually the toilets in the Palace of Westminster where traces of cocaine have been found, so whilst the culprits might well be MPs it is by no means certain. The total staff in the Palace of Westminster, plus the total members of the House of Lords, exceeds three thousand.
Actually, on reflection Tom would be an improvement, so let’s crack on.
Ernie - I know staff and MPs have different facilities in some areas - do you know if the same is for toilets?
Of course it could be staff - and probably is as well but given what we know about some MPs ......
It’s the first time I’ve seen that clip of Gove, which in itself speaks volumes, if it had been a labour politician (or any MP who isn’t in Johnson’s click for that matter ) it would’ve been all over the press etc
I’m no fan of Diane Abbott, but when she opened a can of wine (or whatever it was - and it was wrong to do so) on the tube - there was a tsunami of condemnation!!
Follow the party line!
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Or a lord TJ.
I have no idea about MPs toilet arrangements in the Palace of Westminster.
Although I would be surprised if they are segregated on job title basis.
Edit : Or bishop. I like the idea that it might be a bishop.
At least some of the toilets are members only, I got told off for using some when I was there for a committee hearing
The Sunday Times report should have been more specific then and described which toilets they were referring to.
Although I guess that leaving it ambiguous makes the story more interesting, especially if it was in fact non-member toilets. I'm still hoping that the culprit is a bishop though.
Or bishop. I like the idea that it might be a bishop.
I’m still hoping that the culprit is a bishop though.
I really don't think we should be bashing bishop's on a Sunday
Snorting Bishop would be a good band name
It’s the first time I’ve seen that clip of Gove, which in itself speaks volumes
Or I suppose he could have been feeling a bit shit that day? You know, playing devil's advocate etc
Apparently Gove likes a bit of charlie but is keeping his head down with a firm friend.
But of course they are only making important decisions they ain’t doing anything that will kill their colleagues I guess so hse won’t do the enforcing and they won’t do it voluntarily…..
Do they routinely random CDT healthcare staff in the NHS?
Apparently Gove likes a bit of charlie but is keeping his head down with a firm friend.
He's more eclectic in his tastes as he has a bumble profile
Rees Mogg... busted for possession of coke, my god that would be fun.
I was surprised by this, I thought MPs only snorted coke from a prostitutes naked body parts. Standards must be slipping, I blame the tightening on expenses claims.
Powdered nose whilst bashing the bishop in the bog Mogg.
TheBrick
Free MemberWhy the shock? To be honest at lear it shows some form of normality amoungst the MPs that some use drugs recreationaly.
They make our laws and our laws say it's illegal, if MPs are doing drugs while still making them class A and still sending other people to jail, that's kind of intolerable, no?
any other MPs we know about?
Mhairi Black. I'll not repost the video but it's out there if you look.
some of the toilets are members only
The gents presumably.
Mhairi Black
I thought she had gone very quiet
Hmmm - the thing I saw was hardly convincing but hey ho - everything else we know about MPs is innuendo and ciorcumstance
The Sunday Times report should have been more specific then and described which toilets they were referring to.
Actually it turns out that they were, all the toilets involved apparently required parliamentary passes, which I think includes all staff - several thousand individuals.
Visitors are required to be accompanied at all times and are not allowed to use certain toilets which require parliamentary passes.
I think this is a security issue rather than the honorable members arses can't share the same toilet seats as the plebs. The regular use of sniffer dogs searching for explosives shows how important security is. And when I was cycling past the Palace of Westminster on my regular commute a few months back the amount of armed police on duty outside was staggering. I guess all that might heighten the thrill of taking class A drugs in the heart of the UK's legislature.
I just despise the hypocrisy of it. New laws against recreational drugs mean that some poor **** will do bird whilst these pollies are off their socks. Despite what Johnson and Govey might imagine, it's not fun being banged up and you end up on spice anyway.
It's not shocking that they are doing come but it's a bit exciting that there might be a monumental scandal about to break.
but it’s a bit exciting that there might be a monumental scandal about to break.
would any of them be daft enough to bring their stuff in now? I know they are dimwits but that dim?
We have known for a long time about the bullingdon boys and their coke use but has anything ever been done about it?
I suspect there is enough of it on all sides that there is a tacit pact to keep quiet
I think the last cocaine/politician scandal involved Keith Vaz, so no, it doesn't appear to be an issue strictly divided on party lines.
I might be all for decriminalising class A drugs and have nothing against an MP from any party frankly having a toke of skunk in the Westminster bogs, but if anyone involved in our legislature is in such dire need of a toot of the old marching powder that they'd do it at work then they're asking to be a security risk.
I think the last cocaine/politician scandal involved Keith Vaz, so no, it doesn’t appear to be an issue strictly divided on party lines.
Indeed, the fraud/hookers/drugs trifecta. At least when Profumo was caught, he devoted the rest of his working life to helping charity.
Ta for that Ernie - I knew there was a labour guy but couldn't remeber
I am in favour of decriminalising / treating as a health issue on most drugs but cocaine is one I wouldn't.
All that over heated activity in the city of london a decade or two ago was largely cocaine induced frenzies
It's not just about use in the workplace. Those staff may be open to coercion by their dealers, and anyone more serious up the chain (eg. Criminals, terrorists)
Question (I know very little about these things):
When police do a drugs bust - is these 'police on camera' TV shows are to be believed - they turn up mob-handed, stove the doors in and go "surprise" in the hope of catching them red-handed / white-nosed.
Here we have "police are about to investigate"? About to? How long is that going to take? Even if Westminster is the coke capital of Europe surely they'll have had time to make it squeaky-clean by the time anyone gets around to turning up with dogs? Remember when Ofsted used to visit your school and it was totally absolutely a perfectly normal school day?
Is there anything to stop them turning up with drugs dogs rather than explosives dogs one day and just not telling anyone?
The time my wife and I got raided it was a total surprise. They pulled me over on the way to football training and made me get in the back of their car, drove me home. Searched the house, quickly worked out they were in the wrong house, apologised for getting the wrong house and told me to tell anyone that asked that there was an escaped convict with my name and it had been a mistake (there's about three people in the entire internet with my name!)
A week later to the minute they came back with guns and dogs and raided the next door neighbour... who had obviously hidden all of his nasty druggage.
molgrips
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It’s not shocking that they are doing come
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Introduce regular random drug testing for MPs...
I think the last cocaine/politician scandal involved Keith Vaz
Keith Vaz is almost an anagram of Hi Viz Ket
Makes you think ….
Did Vaz get done?
Is there anything to stop them turning up with drugs dogs rather than explosives dogs one day and just not telling anyone?
I would imagine the the political fallout of the cops finding a load of contraband would probably be too embarrassing for everyone involved, so while I don't think there's anything to stop them, there's every incentive not to try either.
When I got hard-stopped on the M62 they thought I was a drug dealer, the two phones (work and personnel) and the cheap suit didn't help either, thank goodness they didn't search me and find the envelope of £800.00 that I had on me, as I'd just sold a bike...
The time my wife and I got raided it was a total surprise.
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Although the time a uni course colleague was pulled in mid-wales, where police had information of a scouser in a red astra van dealing, and late on a Sunday night pulled Degsy in his rusty red Vauxhall van was a similar experience.
Question (I know very little about these things):
When police do a drugs bust – is these ‘police on camera’ TV shows are to be believed – they turn up mob-handed, stove the doors in and go “surprise” in the hope of catching them red-handed / white-nosed.
My impression is a lot of this is reactive - reacting to complaints. So the low level dealer / user on the sink estate that has loads of neds turning up at his door day and night gets complained about and thus gets busted but the middle class dealer does not generate complaints in the same way so does not get busted.
there is also a tacit police policy not to go after users 'cos if they did thats all they would spend their time doing and everyone in the criminal justice system knows that criminalising users for using does no good at all.
I did work in the criminal justice system a little and the biggest bust I know of was done purely by accident. Cops on patrol in a car saw some neds throw a pizza box out of the window of the car. Went for a word with them, smelt cannabis and found a bin bag full of it. A classic example of the idiocy that some users / dealers do every day
Whereas your middle class dealer does everything in a business like and professional way, does not draw attention to themselves, does not generate complaints and thus is not busted
I can't post the Henry Hoover Coke vid... its age restricted !
It's not even news, i remember the same story from about 15 years ago.
Did not Gordon Ramsey catch a chef smelling the top of a cistern really closely n one of his restaurants? Then went and drug swiped all toilets in all his restaurants and all of them tested positively for coke? Or am i mis remembering that.
Either way, class A drug use by thos in power really isnt on
Leave people open to coercion amd blackmail as class a drug dealers would, in my opinion, keep video or phone records to use as leverage although surely no MP is daft enough to deal directly
One of my local pubs used to wipe down all surfaces in the loos with baby oil 'cos they got so fed up of people going to powder their nose
surely no MP is daft enough to deal directly
giving your mate a bit of your stash is " possesion with intent to supply" ie dealing in the eyes of the law.
Here we have “police are about to investigate”? About to? How long is that going to take? Even if Westminster is the coke capital of Europe surely they’ll have had time to make it squeaky-clean by the time anyone gets around to turning up with dogs?
Isn't coke one of those drugs that leaves traces in your system for months? I don't think they'd have to find it in coat pockets or desk drawers to prove what someone was up to. If there is any knocking about it'll be stashed in diplomatic envelopes though that even the police aren't allowed to search I'd hazard.
Whereas your middle class dealer does everything in a business like and professional way, does not draw attention to themselves, does not generate complaints and thus is not busted
Is that a dealer who deals to the middle classes or who lives in a nice area, has a woodburner, an audi and generally conforms to the STW stereotype?
Isn’t coke one of those drugs that leaves traces in your system for months? I don’t think they’d have to find it in coat pockets or desk drawers to prove what someone was up to.
As a general rule the police can't go demanding hair, blood or urine samples on the basis of hoping to find drug users. If you don't have the drugs in your possession (their metabolites in your body would not count) then they haven't got evidence of the crime.
I don't know enough about the actual practicalities of cocaine use - but why would any MP, who I believe all have their own private offices, need to snort it in a toilet?
why would any MP, who I believe all have their own private offices, need to snort it in a toilet?
Because it's traditional, and British parliamentarians are right sticklers when it comes to tradition.
Isn’t coke one of those drugs that leaves traces in your system for months? I don’t think they’d have to find it in coat pockets or desk drawers to prove what someone was up to.
I don't think so. Traces in hair could be found but unlike cannabis it leaves your system quickly - short half life. Cannabis is the one that is easily detectable days and weeks after it has no effect any longer.
Well, it makes a refreshing change from the hookers.
the police can’t go demanding hair, blood or urine samples on the basis of hoping to find drug users
This.
Don't expect any follow-up to this story, apart perhaps from some signs going up.
strictly divided on party lines.
Ha ha
It was explained to me by a businessman user. He would phone a number and say where he was. A time and street would be given. He'd leave the pub, open the car door and glove box, remove a bag that hadn't been touched by the driver, drop money on the seat, and both would clear off in different directions. He didn't know the name of the driver. Apparently the phone with all the numbers would get flogged on if someone wanted to retire. The middle class way of doing dirty deeds without offending neighbours or attracting attention.
As a general rule the police can’t go demanding hair, blood or urine samples on the basis of hoping to find drug users.
Although if you are poor, or even better, poor and BAME, stop and search allows them to do pretty much anything they want.
there is also a tacit police policy not to go after users ‘cos if they did thats all they would spend their time doing and everyone in the criminal justice system knows that criminalising users for using does no good at all.
While absolutely true, it didn't stop them standing at the top of escalators out of tune stations with sniffer dogs searching anyone the dogs seemed remotely interested in. Don't see why they couldn't do the same at the entrances to parliament.
apart perhaps from some signs going up
Lol. We just get frosty signs reminding us not to flush paper towels.
"Please DO NOT snort coke from the toilet lids - Facilities Management"
Traces in hair could be found but unlike cannabis it leaves your system quickly – short half life. Cannabis is the one that is easily detectable days and weeks after it has no effect any longer.
Tell me about it.... 😁
Coke leaves your system relatively quickly. Not detectable with a piss test after 4/5 days. Blood test about a week.
THC hangs in your system for longer. Up to 10 - 15 days, much longer with blood test. Time will vary on body fat, consumption and metabolism.
MPs coked up doesn't surprise me. It's a drug for egoists and bullshitters.
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